Age of Ultron Least favorite MCU villain?

[Ms. Marvel]

No, he was a petty guy in a business suit who motivation was monumentally weak. "Oh my god, I got all of this money, power, and good looks, but I'm going to wreak all of this havoc because Tony was a dick to me once a decade ago." Grow up Killian. And you know that you're villain has failed when 70 year old Ben Kingsley is much more menacing when PRETENDING to be a bad guy than your actual bad guy is.

That is actually not the case. Killian wasn't out for revenge, but being "stood up" by Tony motivated him to go down the path he went. The point of Killian wasn't to be a menacing villain. The point is that the most menacing people may not be the people we should actually be afraid of.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

That's actually why I think Vanko is worse. Malekith was a 1 dimensional plot device, and in that respect he worked. Vanko was intended to have more layers, but in the end, those efforts fail miserably. He doesn't even serve the move the plot along function that Malekith did.

I'm not saying Vanko was this great villain either, but Mickey Rourke gave a somewhat entertaining performance as the character which is more than we got out of Malekith.

 

[Ant-manic]

No, he was a petty guy in a business suit who motivation was monumentally weak.

his plan was leagues above Vanko (family grudge), Hammer (revenge) or even Stane's (greed). he was expanding the military-industrial complex and replacing it with A.I.M. his interest in Stark was science-related. Maya said that she needed him to perfect her extremis formula.

 

[Ant-manic]

I'm not saying Vanko was this great villain either, but Mickey Rourke gave a somewhat entertaining performance as the character which is more than we got out of Malekith.

that's true. and having fun with it, is basically the only alternative to what we got with Malekith. i think Eccleston was going with a kind of emotionless alien feel to the Dark Elves. kind of fit with their obsession with darkness. otherwise, you have the villains of Hellboy II or evil lord of the rings characters. comic book version seems about as campy as David Bowie's goblin king.

 

[Thundercrack85]

At least Vanko had some depth and a personal life. Malekith really seemed to only exist to be a threat.

Which I suppose isn't necessarily a bad thing since the movie also had Loki, but it does make for a rather boring character.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

that's true. and having fun with it, is basically the only alternative to what we got with Malekith. i think Eccleston was going with a kind of emotionless alien feel to the Dark Elves. kind of fit with their obsession with darkness. otherwise, you have the villains of Hellboy II or evil lord of the rings characters. comic book version seems about as campy as David Bowie's goblin king.

Abomination was similar to Vanko. He was a very thin character with no relevence to the plot prior to the final act, but again, I liked Tim Roth.

I actually liked Laufey better than Malekith. At least Laufey was genuinely creepy.

 

[Ant-manic]

Abomination was similar to Vanko. He was a very thin character with no relevence to the plot prior to the final act, but again, I liked Tim Roth.

I actually liked Laufey better than Malekith. At least Laufey was genuinely creepy.

i liked Roth's Blonsky a helluva lot more than his Abomination. i'd love to see non-mutated Blonsky, non-dead Savin, and Crossbones hang out together; playing poker or something. i'm just imaging some pretty wild stories being exchanged.

 

[Ant-manic]

At least Vanko had some depth and a personal life. Malekith really seemed to only exist to be a threat.

Which I suppose isn't necessarily a bad thing since the movie also had Loki, but it does make for a rather boring character.

how exciting can a creature be that prefers to live entirely in darkness? i guess Kurse was, at least, interesting-looking. what must it be like to be one of the only black dark elves?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

i liked Roth's Blonsky a helluva lot more than his Abomination. i'd love to see non-mutated Blonsky, non-dead Savin, and Crossbones hang out together; playing poker or something. i'm just imaging some pretty wild stories being exchanged.

That's because when he was Abomination he wasn't Tim Roth anymore. It was pretty much Roth alone that made the character worthwhile.

 

[metaphysician]

how exciting can a creature be that prefers to live entirely in darkness? i guess Kurse was, at least, interesting-looking. what must it be like to be one of the only black dark elves?

I don't think they were going to *literally* make the whole universe pitch black. Rather, they were going to convert all the matter in the universe from normal matter to dark matter. I suspect that, aesthetically, this would result in a universe where physical substance tends to have a black color, matte or sheen, and energetic stuff like stars would glow a dramatic red or violet. So, it wouldn't be literal "nothing but darkness", but it would be different and hostile to almost all currently existing life.

 

[TheVision]

Im not a fan of villains like Abomination although Id like to see a THOR 3 in the style of Clash of The Titans with him encountering/battling all kinds of crazy creatures with his warriors.

 

[Ant-manic]

Im not a fan of villains like Abomination although Id like to see a THOR 3 in the style of Clash of The Titans with him encountering/battling all kinds of crazy creatures with his warriors.

not likely now that he's on Midgard rumspringa.

 

[Sevprince]

I don't like red skull and I hope he doesn't show up in cap 3. I find him annoying and dull.

 

[Loki882]

That is actually not the case. Killian wasn't out for revenge, but being "stood up" by Tony motivated him to go down the path he went. The point of Killian wasn't to be a menacing villain. The point is that the most menacing people may not be the people we should actually be afraid of.

Except that that's BS. I'm sorry, but that whole analogy doesn't work. I don't know if Shane Black is aware of this, but Bin Laden WAS a real threat. He WAS an actual terrorist and DID pull off spectacular terrorist attacks. His organization IS a big problem. He wasn't some loser being controlled by a guy in a business suit. You can't make that kind of argument when the guy that you're clearly trying to emulate WAS threatening.

 

[Loki882]

his plan was leagues above Vanko (family grudge), Hammer (revenge) or even Stane's (greed). he was expanding the military-industrial complex and replacing it with A.I.M. his interest in Stark was science-related. Maya said that she needed him to perfect her extremis formula.

So he's a bad guy out for more power. Sorry, but that's what it ultimately was about, money, power, and influence. He's no different than Stane or Hammer since that's ultimately what they wanted as well, except that Jeff Bridges was much more credible as a bad guy. Oh and if he needed Stark to perfect Extremis, then why exactly did he send attack helicopters to blow up Tony's house WITH HIM IN IT! If Tony had died, then he's screwed. Not to mention that he seemed to forget that he could breath fire when he was face to face with Tony in the final battle. So he's lame AND an idiot.

 

[Ant-manic]

So he's a bad guy out for more power. Sorry, but that's what it ultimately was about, money, power, and influence. He's no different than Stane or Hammer since that's ultimately what they wanted as well.

he was leagues above Stane and Hammer. the two of them were wannabe Killians. Hammer wasn't after power. he wanted respect. he wanted to be taken seriously. Killian accomplished that on his own. Stane wanted Stark's company and technology; while possessing no real imagination or inventiveness of his own. Killian created something more dangerous than Iron Man. his plans were larger scaled than Stane's slightly larger personal Iron Man armor or military contracts. Killian was going to, in effect, own military conflict. his own enhancements were just a perk.

i'm thinking that Killian, initially, made the attempt on Stark's life for 2 perfectly logical reasons; the Iron Man could potentially get in the way of his overall plans and to maintain the Mandarin's credibility. Tony forced his hand by calling him out on live television. Killian had his house destroyed as an afterthought. it's not like personally showed up to do it. he later killed Maya and offered Tony a spot in A.I.M to show just how unimportant their history was. he wasn't screwed. he seemed quite confident about extremis/quickly called Maya's bluff. he was basically giving Tony a chance to surrender. btw, i think you assume too much about his fire-breathing. he was blowing the energy that his body generated. and it's not like he needed to breathe fire to kill Stark. he could have just ripped him limb-from-limb. but that's not how movie villainy works. they aren't supposed to win. isn't it enough to he dominated Stark throughout the fight and had to be taken down by Pepper?