Lessons

[SolidSnakeMGS]

As in badness is happening right now.

As in bad acting is happening right now.

Anyway, as far as evil, I would say it is the complete eradication of the capacity to feel empathy or sympathy for someone else, and/or to view them as a human. If we fail to see someone has human, we have no qualms about what happens to them, and some take that to rather tragic limits.

 

[Abaddon]

As in bad acting is happening right now.

Anyway, as far as evil, I would say it is the complete eradication of the capacity to feel empathy or sympathy for someone else, and/or to view them as a human. If we fail to see someone has human, we have no qualms about what happens to them, and some take that to rather tragic limits.

Do you mean for an individual,or for people as a whole?Because there are some people who are capable of a great deal o sympathy and empathy.Or at least thats what I'd like to believe.

 

[Jonathan Archer]

Why is a philosophical question of such nature is asked in here, anyway?

I just wanna play Empire At War.

 

[Abaddon]

Why is a philosophical question of such nature is asked in here, anyway?

I just wanna play Empire At War.

Is there something stopping you?

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Do you mean for an individual,or for people as a whole?Because there are some people who are capable of a great deal o sympathy and empathy.Or at least thats what I'd like to believe.

It can be both. It depends on the limits of one's apathy. Hitler for example didn't see the entire Jewish race as humans therefore he had no trouble treating them like you treat roaches in your home. IMO, Hitler did NOT hate the Jews; he simply felt nothing at all for them and saw them not as people, thus why he was able to do the things he did. Hitler hated what the Jews supposedly did and the way they were, but not the Jew him/herself.

And I hope no one sees that as anti-Semetic because it isn't. What I wrote may be harsh because the very idea of dehumanizing is to me the biggest cause of genocide and even individual murder in the world today.

There is evil in people; thus there are evil people. They're not the red-eyed demons with wings. They're men with pearly smiles and suits. They don't cackle like some monsterous villain. They don't jump around in the shadows, they walk in the light where all can see.

 

[Abaddon]

It can be both. It depends on the limits of one's apathy. Hitler for example didn't see the entire Jewish race as humans therefore he had no trouble treating them like you treat roaches in your home. IMO, Hitler did NOT hate the Jews; he simply felt nothing at all for them and saw them not as people, thus why he was able to do the things he did. Hitler hated what the Jews supposedly did and the way they were, but not the Jew him/herself.

And I hope no one sees that as anti-Semetic because it isn't. What I wrote may be harsh because the very idea of dehumanizing is to me the biggest cause of genocide and even individual murder in the world today.

Thats a fair assesment.However...

There is evil in people; thus there are evil people. They're not the red-eyed demons with wings. They're men with pearly smiles and suits. They don't cackle like some monsterous villain. They don't jump around in the shadows, they walk in the light where all can see.

You lost me a bit there.

You say apathy is evil,but isn't it just the lack of something necessary?How it can be in everyone?

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

You lost me a bit there.

You say apathy is evil,but isn't it just the lack of something necessary?How it can be in everyone?

True, I didn't word it right at all. I blame the medication, your honor

Anyway, apathy is not evil. Hell, if it were, we all would be evil. Especially now because my sink is full of dirty dishes and I don't care but that doesn't make me evil.

It probably sounded like I said people are evil -- actually it did -- hehehe-- but no, I didn't mean that.

 

[Abaddon]

True, I didn't word it right at all. I blame the medication, your honor

Anyway, apathy is not evil. Hell, if it were, we all would be evil. Especially now because my sink is full of dirty dishes and I don't care but that doesn't make me evil.

It probably sounded like I said people are evil -- actually it did -- hehehe-- but no, I didn't mean that.

Care to share what you did actually mean?I don't want to put you on the spot though,so you can wait till the meds wear off.



wait a sec,are you the same Solid Snake that was banned a while ago?

 

[Leto Atrides]

Give a few good examples.

I know you asked this a while ago, sorry.

Spoiler

Raping mentally handicapped toddlers. Breeding people. Trying top drive others insane.

Just some really f'ed up things I can think of. Theft, murder, many things could be seen by some as right in certain circumstances. They are wrong, but I wouldn't say they are necessarily to the extreme of evil. But there are certain things that cannot possible be right.

 

[Abaddon]

I know you asked this a while ago, sorry.

Spoiler

Raping mentally handicapped toddlers. Breeding people. Trying top drive others insane.

Just some really f'ed up things I can think of. Theft, murder, many things could be seen by some as right in certain circumstances. They are wrong, but I wouldn't say they are necessarily to the extreme of evil. But there are certain things that cannot possible be right.

So things that can't possibly be right automatically fall into the "evil" category?

 

[Leto Atrides]

I'd say so.

 

[R_9]

Josef Mengele.

This guy is evil made man.

 

[Danalys]

it depends on your perspective. in choosing a perspective i now know what is productive and what isn't, through seeing the effects of those action. right now i think comfort and self improvement are productive. that is my perspective.

 

[DBella]

Evil to me is when you intentionally inflict harm upon others and when nothing else matters to you but yourself. Evil is the absence of conscience.

 

[redmarvel]

Evil is enjoying the pain of other living things.

If you enjoy torturing cats, both the act is evil and you are evil for enjoying it.

If you enjoy molesting children, both the act and you are evil.

I do believe in true evil.

I also believe there is true good in the world. Folks like Mother Teresa are the epitomy of true good.

 

[dmcnx]

I'm sure Mother Teresa flipped off a couple of cats in her day

 

[Noon]

Many acts and crimes people percieve to be 'evil' are done by people who are not entirely "normal" in the head.

For example, a recent study with criminals on death row where they did detailed brain scans revealed that those criminals who felt no remorse for their crimes had a distinct difference from those who did feel remorse. A certain part of the brain had minimal activity in those without remorse, that was fully active in those who did.

This could be classed as a disabilaty, like autism where they find it hard to understand other peoples emotions. Acts that may seem evil commited by these people don't make the people evil as their brains are not functioning the same way as the majority of people's are.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

true evil is complete selfishness

 

[Abaddon]

Many acts and crimes people percieve to be 'evil' are done by people who are not entirely "normal" in the head.

For example, a recent study with criminals on death row where they did detailed brain scans revealed that those criminals who felt no remorse for their crimes had a distinct difference from those who did feel remorse. A certain part of the brain had minimal activity in those without remorse, that was fully active in those who did.

This could be classed as a disabilaty, like autism where they find it hard to understand other peoples emotions. Acts that may seem evil commited by these people don't make the people evil as their brains are not functioning the same way as the majority of people's are.

I was just about to address this point.Thank you.

 

[Abaddon]

it depends on your perspective. in choosing a perspective i now know what is productive and what isn't, through seeing the effects of those action. right now i think comfort and self improvement are productive. that is my perspective.

But things that aren't productive aren't evil either.

 

[Danalys]

are to me. it's a waste of life to not be improving your suroundings or yourself at any time. even sleep recouperates you.

 

[Abaddon]

drugs are evil.

 

[Leto Atrides]

I was just about to address this point.Thank you.

Maybe the people aren't evil, but the acts are. I would say no person can be evil, they can just do evil things.

 

[Jack O'Lantern]

I've heard evil defined as controlling people through fear.

I personally define it as using others for your own needs without regard for theirs.

 

[Abaddon]

Maybe the people aren't evil, but the acts are. I would say no person can be evil, they can just do evil things.

I think that works.But it's still relative.

I've heard evil defined as controlling people through fear.

I personally define it as using others for your own needs without regard for theirs.

That makes evil a bit too commonplace then,don't you think?