Endgame Lets Talk Avengers 4 and what we know #Spoilers?

[honestbharani]

I am still wondering how it ties into the sacrifice play the original 6 possibly have to do to bring the others back. Or do we just acknowledge the different dimensions and realities and let each film take place in its own corner? That's way too ambitious, even for Marvel Studios.

 

[stlblues84]

Should the rumors be true that this movie starts several years in the future, the sacrifices could be numerous:

Stark could have a child by then and changing it reverses that possibility.
Someone who survived the snap could end up dying now at the hands of someone who was originally wiped out.
Someone would still need to sacrifice someone they love to get the soul stone in the first place.

There's still a lot of questions that could have a number of possible answers...I'm interested to see how the Russos play it out.

Though, I like the idea that they seem to be choosing the Space and Reality stones if that's the case. Though the stones were a big part of their own stories, once they ended up on Asgard and with The Collector, respectively, neither stone was really talked about or seen again until the end of Ragnarok and beginning of IW. Those two stones could easily be taken in a heist and never affect any of the original movies.

 

[Brazil201]

Thors not dying. Thor got a major redone. Hes without a doubt gonna be in a guardian movie or a thor 4. Dude is cool now not some ****** shakespear cosplay

 

[legendkillin]

Though, I like the idea that they seem to be choosing the Space and Reality stones if that's the case. Though the stones were a big part of their own stories, once they ended up on Asgard and with The Collector, respectively, neither stone was really talked about or seen again until the end of Ragnarok and beginning of IW. Those two stones could easily be taken in a heist and never affect any of the original movies.

Those two stones were also in their possession after a hard fought battle. They are different than the Mind and Time because those are used as weapons frequently. The tesseract is just a cube but can't be wielded as a weapon in that state. They put the Aether in a cube like thing too so unless absorbed like Jane did it won't be a weapon. The Aether was badly used in TDW too so the new way is better and likely will be built upon. Thor had both of those in his possession and now he is very strong and was able to hurt Thanos. If he is able to go back and do something different he would

 

[Flash525]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but there are six stones, and six original Avengers; coincidence? Especially with time travel shenanigans.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

If that's the case, it certainly possible; however, i think that scenario can only play out with the FF & not any Xmen characters, given those characters are still in current use by Fox, with planned films in varible stages of production.

Let's not forget those films are unlikely to be made however. Fox know this.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

Here are some possible spoilers I found over at reddit:

- The blue "watches" seen in the set photos are Pym inventions. They are growing devices used so the characters can exit the Quantum Realm during the time travel excursions.

- The time travel in this movie is not traditional. They are travelling into an alternate reality that mirrors their own, but jumping through different points in time to alter that reality and make their own version of the Infinity Gauntlet. Ultimately returning to the normal reality to use it against Thanos.

- The overall plan is to travel back to alternate NY for the Space and Mind stone, alternate Xandar for the Power stone, Vormir for the soul, the Sanctum for the Time stone, and Knowhere for the Reality stone. Some of the characters who survive the snap, lived for a strategic narrative purpose. Rocket, Nebula, and Thor knew the former locations of the Power Stone, Soul Stone, and Reality Stone respectively. No other Avenger would have been privy to such information.

- Thor, Rocket, and Captain Marvel head to Nidavellir in order to have a new gauntlet forged for Tony. We see the Dwarves in operation before Thanos showed up.

- In New York, the Avengers unwittingly mention Thanos and the stones in front of Loki. Later, Loki reconvenes with Thanos and explains they have uncovered his machination to collect the stones, so he acts sooner.

- The time travelling Avengers, now in possession of the space and mind stone, travel to a point in time when the power stone was still on Xandar, only to discover the alternate reality version of Thanos and his Black Order attacking the planet. This leads to a battle with a considerably less formidable Thanos, but he is capable of holding his own and makes off with the Power Stone.

Sounds good if true, although it's rather convenient that the surviving characters just happen to have knowledge that the plot of Avengers 4 requires. Something CinemaSins would undoubtedly pick up on.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but there are six stones, and six original Avengers; coincidence? Especially with time travel shenanigans.

My friend and I talked about this the other day. Could be a coincidence, but it's something to think about.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Here are some possible spoilers I found over at reddit:

Not saying it's not true....just saying, that sound like Avengers: Infinity Wars in reverse...basically the same plot in reverse. Traveling all over recovering stones. The Russos & the writers(M&M) said this is a very different film...if that sneak peek leak is true, sound more of the same to me, imo.

 

[sergeantbucky]

The OP of those last reddit "spoilers" admitted the post was just their own theories, not any kind of legit information.

 

[HammerDown]

Some fun parallels.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

Not saying it's not true....just saying, that sound like Avengers: Infinity Wars in reverse...basically the same plot in reverse. Traveling all over recovering stones. The Russos & the writers(M&M) said this is a very different film...if that sneak peek leak is true, sound more of the same to me, imo.

I must have missed the time travelling to different realities in Infinity War.

 

[ctsketch]

I must have missed the time travelling to different realities in Infinity War.

its the bit about collecting the stones and forming a gauntlet obviously....

 

[RoastBeast]

its the bit about collecting the stones and forming a gauntlet obviously....

We even already know the 'wheres' so it would just be the 'whens' that's reversed. Hopefully that is inaccurate. There are so many really good things they would do with this.

 

[Brazil201]

Avengers: Eternity

Grey Hulk

Cap is worthy

The Living Tribunal

Thanos is cocky

Eon

Negative Zone

Cap versus Red Skull

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStud...but_only_in_20_words/?st=jhkqzew2&sh=86a93e5c

 

[Maxima]

I remember Russo saying IW will be a heist movie.
IW in fact did not look like heist, more like street robbery )) But the leaked plot of A4 with collecting stones by time travel looked more like it.

 

[RoastBeast]

I remember Russo saying IW will be a heist movie.
IW in fact did not look like heist, more like street robbery )) But the leaked plot of A4 with collecting stones by time travel looked more like it.

Sometimes, I think they are mixing the two up in interviews due to the concurrent production- IW wasn't a heist movie, it was grocery shopping, so these comments have to be referencing 4. I think too.

 

[Brazil201]

going into alternate timelines and stealing infinity stones

 

[AvengerPA]

What does Rocket do in the film?

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Sometimes, I think they are mixing the two up in interviews due to the concurrent production- IW wasn't a heist movie, it was grocery shopping, so these comments have to be referencing 4. I think too.

"He lies"

When I saw Civil War with a bunch of kids even before the Giant Man revel the two biggest pops from the audience was Ant-Man (I need you to break in a place and steal some sh..)and Spider-Man.

As a launch for the next generation and a way to reverse the snapture a heist by a future star is a big possibility.

 

[legendkillin]

What does Rocket do in the film?

I am hoping he has a big part when it comes to planning. Rocket is quite smart and he seems to want to lead or show he can. He should learn a lot from the originals and show that he can work with others since no other GOTG are around. I don't consider Nebula a member.

 

[Iceman]

There must be a good reason why they left just him behind from the Guardians.

 

[AvengerPA]

Avengers: Eternity

Grey Hulk

Cap is worthy

The Living Tribunal

Thanos is cocky

Eon

Negative Zone

Cap versus Red Skull

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStud...but_only_in_20_words/?st=jhkqzew2&sh=86a93e5c

If that is the title, does Eternity appear?
If Eternity appears, is it Doctor Strange that meets Eternity?

 

[Jake_Snake]

There must be a good reason why they left just him behind from the Guardians.

They basically have the SuperPowers of intelligence in A4 lol. Rocket, Tony, Banner and most likely Shuri and Dr. Pym.


Think of the possibilities lol.

 

[Iceman]

They basically have the SuperPowers of intelligence in A4 lol. Rocket, Tony, Banner and most likely Shuri and Dr. Pym.


Think of the possibilities lol.

They’d certainly be able to come up with some great stuff together. Especially if Banner stopped playing class clown/dunce.