Endgame Lets Talk Avengers 4 and what we know #Spoilers?

[DalekbusterFitz]

It doesn't make sense from a narrative standpoint to bring them back earlier, though. If they all come back say 1 hr into the movie, it undercuts them dusting at all and makes Thanos not feel as threatening. That moment has to come as late as possible dramatically.

They could be shown trapped in the Soul World inside the Soul Stone and it wouldn't impact anything dramatically.

 

[Iceman]

They could be shown trapped in the Soul World inside the Soul Stone and it wouldn't impact anything dramatically.

I’m really happy to see you post here without referring to AoS and Coulson.

I can’t imagine what the Soul World would be like but it could be great to see what they come up with. And as you say it could give them an excuse to show the heroes claimed by Thanos’s snap earlier.

 

[Iceman]

It doesn't make sense from a narrative standpoint to bring them back earlier, though. If they all come back say 1 hr into the movie, it undercuts them dusting at all and makes Thanos not feel as threatening. That moment has to come as late as possible dramatically.

I hope the film is around the 2hr 45 minute mark and I could settle for the least 45 minutes. Deal?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I hope the film is around the 2hr 45 minute mark and I could settle for the least 45 minutes. Deal?

I don't know if the climax will be quite THAT long, lol. I am guessing like, last half hour.

 

[Iceman]

I don't know if the climax will be quite THAT long, lol. I am guessing like, last half hour.

I’m expecting a mass battle planning scene before the climax.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I’m expecting a mass battle planning scene before the climax.

I don't think we're going to get that exactly. I think everyone left will do that, but then I think they will go to fight Thanos, achieve whatever goal they were going for, and then the other heroes will just suddenly be there to help. The undoing of the snap I see being done within the final battle itself, leading to everyone else joining the battle ala Thor in IW when he came to Wakanda. Story wise, Thanos is undercut if the snap is undone earlier than that, and the Russos in their movies do push to have the heroes at their lowest point of the battle before they win in the end. I think we will maybe see everyone together for some type of end gathering (whether it be a funeral or like Tony's wedding). But I don't expect everyone to come back really any earlier than the final like 30 mins.

 

[scarlet-witch]

At least we still had Thor <3

This makes mourning CapBeard so much easier.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

I’m really happy to see you post here without referring to AoS and Coulson.

I can’t imagine what the Soul World would be like but it could be great to see what they come up with. And as you say it could give them an excuse to show the heroes claimed by Thanos’s snap earlier.

I could imagine it being each hero's idea of paradise. Maybe they've grown content in the Soul World and don't feel like anything's wrong, so are surprised when they discover it's not the real world but in actual fact they are inside an Infinity Stone.

 

[Iceman]

I could imagine it being each hero's idea of paradise. Maybe they've grown content in the Soul World and don't feel like anything's wrong, so are surprised when they discover it's not the real world but in actual fact they are inside an Infinity Stone.

Hmm, interesting. Do you mean that each hero would see a different version of it then. And would they be separate from each other?

 

[KaijuDude1992]

Seeing how Feige said that none of the snap characters would be in the posters or trailers I would think none of them comeback until probably the final battle or towards the end of the movie which sounds about right IMO. I don't want them coming back too early when we already have other characters to focus on who didn't really get their time to shine in IW like Cap and Hulk. We also got Carol, Scott and Clint becoming part of the team as well.

 

[Thanoss]

Seeing how Feige said that none of the snap characters would be in the posters or trailers I would think none of them comeback until probably the final battle or towards the end of the movie which sounds about right IMO. I don't want them coming back too early when we already have other characters to focus on who didn't really get their time to shine in IW like Cap and Hulk. We also got Carol, Scott and Clint becoming part of the team as well.

Did Feige said that ? you sure?

 

[KaijuDude1992]

Did Feige said that ? you sure?

Yep there were articles about it like 3 months ago.

'Avengers 4' Trailers Won't Include These Marvel Characters

snap characters not in the avengers 4 marketing - Google Search

 

[Thanoss]

Thank you, interesting

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

Hmm, interesting. Do you mean that each hero would see a different version of it then. And would they be separate from each other?

Yes, like when you have a dream that feels so real you wonder if it is...then you wake up and find out it wasn't.

 

[Iceman]

Yes, like when you have a dream that feels so real you wonder if it is...then you wake up and find out it wasn't.

It would be cool to have it like a dream, but I guess they wouldn't have time to show everyone's perspective so either focus on one or 2 or show some kind of combined version.

 

[Brazil201]

they can say whatever they want legally they gotta put the names on the movie poster. Thats a SAG rule

 

[HammerDown]

Decided to make a list of stuff we know related to Avengers 4. These are thing based on set reports, interviews, actors leaking stuff accidentally... If you guys know of some interesting stuff feel free to say it and i'll add to the list. It's a good way of keeping track to this sort of stuff.

AVENGERS 4

• Iron Man, Nebula, Cap, Thor, War Machine, Black Widow, Rocket, Okoye, Banner/Hulk, Ant-Man... are alive after the snap.
• Captain Marvel joins the fight against Thanos.
• Hulk and Banner merge completely into one persona. Smart Hulk wears a suit.
• Pepper Pots uses a version of the Iron Man suit.
• Valkyrie escaped with some asgardians in the beginning of IW.
  
• Thor, Valkyrie, Rocket, Hulk… meet Hela in Hel. Frigga(Thor’s mother) and Loki are also there.
• Cap, Iron Man, Hulk and Ant-Man are seen in the battle of New York. Captain America has the same look as in the Avengers. Iron Man has a Shield outfit. Thor has mjolnir. They are using devices on their hands similar to watches. The BARF technology is used in that scene.
• Iron Man, Thor and Loki have a scene together, the asgardians sport the same looks from Avengers while Iron Man seems to be part of Shield. Loki is captured and i being escorted by a Shield special team.
• Gamora and Nebula have scenes together. Both have the same looks as from the first GOTG.
• Gamora, Nebula, Ant-Man and The Wasp have a scene together.
• Captain Marvel, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Cap, Rocket, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nebula and War Machine are in Titan together.
• Cap and Black Widow have a scene together in a bar/dinner.
• Drax and the Guardians come back.
• Iron Man is seen in Wakanda.
• The Ancient One has a scene with the Hulk.
• Scene with “everyone”. Winter Soldier, Nick Fury, Hank Pym, Janet Van Dyne...
• Thanos at one point fights Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel, War Machine, Thor, Captain America, Iron Man...
• There’s a scene with Shuri and Star Lord.
• Happy Hogan is in the movie.
• Thanos uses his golden plated armour with the fully assembled gauntlet. Are also has a 2 edged staff sword.
• Thanos left arm is damaged by the “Snap”.
• Hulk seems to be homeless while walking in alley with a bindle.
• There are some scenes set in Tokyo with Black Widow, Ronin and japanese gangsters in the rain.
• Hawkeye now looks like Ronin.
• Ant Man’s daughter will be portrayed by a much older actress.
• Pepper Potts is married to Tony Stark and they have a child.
• Scene with Doctor Strange and Spider-Man. “Peter protect them they are not dead”.
• Doctor Strange talks about the Quantum Realm to Spider-Man.
• Scene in a english pub called The Cormorant and Tun with Black Widow, Thor, Banner…
• Peggy Carter is in the movie.
• A scene in the 1940’s with Captain America.
• There’s a scene in a spaceship with the heroes talking to each other. Captain America, Black Widow, Pepper Potts, Captain Marvel, Iron Man, Rocket…
• Gamorra has a scene with Iron Man, Pepper Potts in her suit, War Machine, Spider-Man and Hulk.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

It would be cool to have it like a dream, but I guess they wouldn't have time to show everyone's perspective so either focus on one or 2 or show some kind of combined version.

If you focused on two, the ones to focus on would be Spider-Man and Star Lord.

Spider-Man - A world where Uncle Ben didn't die, Peter Parker was never bitten by a radioactive spider and he had less responsibilities.

Star Lord - A world where Gamora is still alive, they settle down on a distant planet and have children.

 

[Iceman]

If you focused on two, the ones to focus on would be Spider-Man and Star Lord.

Spider-Man - A world where Uncle Ben didn't die, Peter Parker was never bitten by a radioactive spider and he had less responsibilities.

Star Lord - A world where Gamora is still alive, they settle down on a distant planet and have children.

Quite interesting for them to see the -What Ifs- with such large events in their lives. And if it was just 2 scenarios then it could be feasible. Nice ideas

 

[Iceman]

Decided to make a list of stuff we know related to Avengers 4. These are thing based on set reports, interviews, actors leaking stuff accidentally... If you guys know of some interesting stuff feel free to say it and i'll add to the list. It's a good way of keeping track to this sort of stuff.

Awesome summary mate. I love when you do stuff like this, keeps everything organised. Yes, please keep it up to date.

 

[Flash525]

• Iron Man, Nebula, Cap, Thor, War Machine, Black Widow, Rocket, Okoye, Banner/Hulk, Ant-Man... are alive after the snap.
• Captain Marvel joins the fight against Thanos.
• Hulk and Banner merge completely into one persona. Smart Hulk wears a suit.
• Pepper Pots uses a version of the Iron Man suit.
• Valkyrie escaped with some asgardians in the beginning of IW.
  
• Thor, Valkyrie, Rocket, Hulk… meet Hela in Hel. Frigga(Thor’s mother) and Loki are also there.
• Cap, Iron Man, Hulk and Ant-Man are seen in the battle of New York. Captain America has the same look as in the Avengers. Iron Man has a Shield outfit. Thor has mjolnir. They are using devices on their hands similar to watches. The BARF technology is used in that scene.
• Iron Man, Thor and Loki have a scene together, the asgardians sport the same looks from Avengers while Iron Man seems to be part of Shield. Loki is captured and i being escorted by a Shield special team.
• Gamora and Nebula have scenes together. Both have the same looks as from the first GOTG.
• Gamora, Nebula, Ant-Man and The Wasp have a scene together.
• Captain Marvel, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Cap, Rocket, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nebula and War Machine are in Titan together.
• Cap and Black Widow have a scene together in a bar/dinner.
• Drax and the Guardians come back.
• Iron Man is seen in Wakanda.
• The Ancient One has a scene with the Hulk.
• Scene with “everyone”. Winter Soldier, Nick Fury, Hank Pym, Janet Van Dyne...
• Thanos at one point fights Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel, War Machine, Thor, Captain America, Iron Man...
• There’s a scene with Shuri and Star Lord.
• Happy Hogan is in the movie.
• Thanos uses his golden plated armour with the fully assembled gauntlet. Are also has a 2 edged staff sword.
• Thanos left arm is damaged by the “Snap”.
• Hulk seems to be homeless while walking in alley with a bindle.
• There are some scenes set in Tokyo with Black Widow, Ronin and japanese gangsters in the rain.
• Hawkeye now looks like Ronin.
• Ant Man’s daughter will be portrayed by a much older actress.
• Pepper Potts is married to Tony Stark and they have a child.
• Scene with Doctor Strange and Spider-Man. “Peter protect them they are not dead”.
• Doctor Strange talks about the Quantum Realm to Spider-Man.
• Scene in a english pub called The Cormorant and Tun with Black Widow, Thor, Banner…
• Peggy Carter is in the movie.
• A scene in the 1940’s with Captain America.
• There’s a scene in a spaceship with the heroes talking to each other. Captain America, Black Widow, Pepper Potts, Captain Marvel, Iron Man, Rocket…
• Gamorra has a scene with Iron Man, Pepper Potts in her suit, War Machine, Spider-Man and Hulk.

I know this is all stuff that's related to A4, but bolded, I just don't see it.

 

[RoastBeast]

I know this is all stuff that's related to A4, but bolded, I just don't see it.

Me either, but it's in the leaked imagery... not sure I'm thrilled but we'll see how it's played...

 

[KevTravels]

this film is gonna need to be 3 hours to wrap up everyone's storylines.

Not to mention the screentime.

 

[Iceman]

For all that stuff as well as the rest of what we expect to happen to get covered it's going to have be at least 2hrs 40 mins.

 

[Confusion]

Decided to make a list of stuff we know related to Avengers 4. These are thing based on set reports, interviews, actors leaking stuff accidentally... If you guys know of some interesting stuff feel free to say it and i'll add to the list. It's a good way of keeping track to this sort of stuff.

Scene with Doctor Strange and Spider-Man. “Peter protect them they are not dead”.

I thought that was an unfinished scene from IW. When they are on Titan, right after Thanos throws the moon.
I honestly don't think it's a scene in A4.