Endgame Lets Talk Avengers 4 and what we know #Spoilers?

[AvengerPA]

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[HammerDown]

Decided to make a list of stuff we know related to Avengers 4. These are thing based on set reports, interviews, actors leaking stuff accidentally, merchandise, trailers... If you guys know of some interesting stuff feel free to say it and i'll add to the list. It's a good way of keeping track to this sort of stuff.

Update!
New stuff in bold.

AVENGERS: END GAME

• Thanos wiped out "50% of all living creatures in the universe".
• New York is deserted. Almost like a post apocalyptic look to the city... It's mostly in the dark. Empty stadium. No-one in sight. There's a ton of vehicles spread out everywhere, abandoned cars, boats...
• People are doing support meetings to help manage their losses. Cap is in one of those meetings.
• Iron Man, Nebula, Cap, Thor, War Machine, Black Widow, Rocket, Okoye, Banner/Hulk, Ant-Man... are alive after the snap.
• Shuri, Spider-Man, Ant-Man... are presumed missing.
• Scene in a english pub called The Cormorant and Tun with Black Widow, Thor, Banner, Tony Stark… Rocket wearing his comic book accurate suit also enters the pub.
  
• Valkyrie escaped with some asgardians in the beginning of IW. She now has long braided hair and the white lines over the eyes, similar to the ones in Sakaar.
  
• Thor, Valkyrie, Rocket, Hulk… go to Hel? Meeting Hela? (Frigga? - Thor’s mother) and Loki are also there.
  
• Thor stares at something indoors. He walks out of some "alien" looking building, equipped with his IW armour and Stormbreaker. There are green mountains outside the building.
• Thor get's a buzz cut hair look at some point with the Quantum Realm suit.
• Captain Marvel joins the fight against Thanos.
• Captain Marvel is one of the few people that can travel in the Quantum Realm without a suit.
• Hulk and Banner merge completely into one persona. Smart Hulk's face resembles even more Banner.
• Hulk wears 2 suits, 1 elastic "one piece suit", colored black, grey and purple. And a Quantum Realm suit.
• Hulk and Rocket have a funny relationship.
  
• Hulk has some sort of weapon when wearing his QR suit. Seems like a metal beam with a big piece of cement on top.
• Pepper Pots uses a version of the Iron Man suit. The Rescue armour. The purple/blue and white one.
• Captain Marvel, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Cap, Rocket, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nebula and War Machine are in Titan together.
• Captain America get his shield back and straps it to his arm. He is shaking, his fingers are dirty and bloodied.
• Cap and Black Widow have a scene together in a bar/dinner.
• Drax and the Guardians come back.
• Tony Stark and Nebula are stranded in space aboard aboard the Benatar. With no food or water. Oxygen enough for a few more hours. Iron Man leaves a goodbye message to Pepper. Nebula consoles him.
• Tony Stark and Nebula are working together. Trying to fix or build something.
• Rocket flies his spaceship through an asteroid field and saves Iron Man.
• Iron Man has several suits of armour room.
• Iron Man is seen in Wakanda.
• There's an Outrider attack.
• There’s a scene with Shuri and Star Lord.
• Gamora, Nebula, Ant-Man and The Wasp have a scene together.
  
• Scene with “everyone”. Winter Soldier, Nick Fury, Hank Pym, Janet Van Dyne... "Battle of the Assembled Avengers"
• Thanos at one point fights Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel, War Machine, Thor, Captain America, Iron Man...
• Happy Hogan is in the movie.
• Thanos left arm is damaged by the “Snap”. The gauntlet is also damaged, burnt, almost fused to his arm...
• Thanos went back to an unknown planet where he has literally hanged his armour, on a field next to a cabin where he now lives a peaceful existence roaming around.
• Thanos in battle uses his golden plated armour with the fully assembled gauntlet. And also has a 2 edged staff sword.
• Apparently Hawkeye lost his family in the snap and went a bit crazy.
• Hawkeye now looks like Ronin. Complete with a black and gold suit, a mask, a sword...
  
• Ronin goes on a rampage in Tokyo against Yakuza gangsters. Black Widow finds him there.
• Later on Ronin will go back to his Hawkeye look with the traditional bow and arrows.
• Hawkeye is almost underground. There's dirt, smoke and rouble around him. He is looking at something with a strong red light.
• Doctor Strange talks about the Quantum Realm to Spider-Man.
• Scene with Doctor Strange and Spider-Man. “Peter protect them they are not dead”.
• Flashback/Time Travel: Pepper Potts is married to Tony Stark and they have a child.
  
• F/TT: Ant Man’s daughter will be portrayed by a much older actress.
  
• F/TT: A scene in the 1940’s with Captain America.
• F/TT: Peggy Carter is in the movie.
• F/TT: Gamora and Nebula have scenes together. Both have the same looks as from the first GOTG.
• F/TT: Cap, Iron Man, Hulk and Ant-Man are seen in the battle of New York. Captain America has the same look as in the Avengers. Iron Man has a Shield outfit. Thor has mjolnir. They are using devices on their hands similar to watches. The BARF technology is used in that scene.
• F/TT: Hulk seems to be homeless while walking in NY alley with a bindle.
• F/TT: Iron Man, Thor and Loki have a scene together, the asgardians sport the same looks from Avengers while Iron Man seems to be part of Shield. Loki is captured and i being escorted by a Shield special team.
• F/TT: The Ancient One has a scene with Doctor Strange and Wong.
  
• Flashback: Crossbones appears.
• Gamorra has a scene with Iron Man, Pepper Potts in the Rescue armor, War Machine, Spider-Man and Hulk.
• Thor, Rocket, Captain America, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Nebula, Hulk and Black Widow have matching "space/tech/quantum realm" suits. It's an Avengers uniform. Thor has Stormbreaker, Rocket a big gun and Captain America his traditional shield.
• The Avengers Headquarters is completely deserted with just the Quintet insight.
• Captain America, Black Widow, Banner, War Machine, Thor, Rocket and Ant Man are at the Avengers HQ.
• The Avengers mourn. Black Widow sadly describes their losses, Cap cries, Banner is incredulous, Thor feels sorrow... They all dress casually.
• Scott Lang shows up at the Avengers HQ with his van. Captain America and Black Widow watch it through the surveillance footage. Cap asks if it's archive footage. BW says it's at the front door.
  
• Black Widow trains her aim at the Avengers HQ.
• Black Widow, Banner, Cap and Rhodey are seen coming out of the avengers HQ at night. They glance at something in the sky.
• A team of heroes is seen going out of the Avengers HQ, Captain America with his shield leads the group, followed by Thor with a sleeveless armour and whiteout Stormbreaker, Black Widow fully equipped, Rocket Raccoon, Ant-Man, War Machine and Banner.
• Cap and Black Widow, suited up, are inside the Quinjet and seem to be going on a mission.
• Black Widow has 2 different looks. Short blonde hair and long braided red hair.
• There’s a scene in a spaceship with the heroes talking to each other. Captain America, Black Widow, Pepper Potts, Captain Marvel, Iron Man, Rocket…
  
• The Avengers have a team vehicle, the "Super Quinjet"... War Machine has a vehicle or suit called the "Crusher".
• There's a massive attack on the Avengers HQ. It's attacked by 3 different types of enemies, the chitarui and 2 different types of outriders, normal ones and others with massive claws. War Machine and Ant-Man defend the HQ with their avengers team/QR suits. War Machine uses his Buster/Crusher giant armour.
• During the attack the Super Quinjet arrives with Thor, Rocket, Hawkeye and Black Widow, all in their team suits to help in the HQ defense. Thor is wielding Stormbreaker, Black Widow has her batons and an armored atv, Rocket has a gun while Hawkeye has his bow.
• Captain America is also wearing the team suit and battles the outriders in the HQ attack. He has an armored motorcycle.

 

[HammerDown]

So going by all three of those leaked Lego sets it looks like there is definitely some kind of big battle happening right outside of The Avengers HQ. Also, it looks like everyone is wearing those QR suits as well. Really interesting stuff.

Yep. There's a massive battle there. A ton of combat and armored vehicles are featured, like the Super Quinjet, War Machine's Crusher armour, Cap's motorcycle and Black Widow's quad bike. Captain America, Ant-Man, War Machine, Thor, Rocket, Black Widow... are all present. Also someone has to be piloting the SQ so i'm guessing it could be Hawkeye since he also did it in Age of Ultron.

I wonder why are the outriders attacking the Avengers HQ. Thanos might know at this point what they are up to and tries to prevent them from doing it, sending the outriders to attack the compound. I could see this as a mid point battle in the movie, before they do all the time travel stuff...

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I think y'all are reading a little too much into the Lego sets. There was an Iron Man 3 lego set with the "Mandarin" flying some battle plane. Look how that turned out.

They'll make up any cool scenario to sell Lego sets.

 

[HammerDown]

I think y'all are reading a little too much into the Lego sets. There was an Iron Man 3 lego set with the "Mandarin" flying some battle plane. Look how that turned out.

They'll make up any cool scenario to sell Lego sets.

There's always going to be some hit and misses. Having said that, look at the lego sets for Infinity War and check how much of that ended up being the real deal. I would say, easily around 80% did indeed happen...

 

[Hannibal75]

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Let's just say that if Tony returns to Earth after five years and discovers that Pepper is pregnant, that might be problematic.

 

[ZenTheAvenger]

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Is that the only post? Could you PM me the link to the site?

 

[raised_fisT]

Decided to make a list of stuff we know related to Avengers 4. These are thing based on set reports, interviews, actors leaking stuff accidentally, merchandise, trailers... If you guys know of some interesting stuff feel free to say it and i'll add to the list. It's a good way of keeping track to this sort of stuff.

Update!
New stuff in bold.

Wow, thank you for doing this.
If Rocket is the one who saves Tony and Nebula... I'll be thrilled. There may be tears.

 

[KevTravels]

Apparently War Machine is going to go GIANT?

 

[scarlet-witch]

^That would be pretty BA.

 

[JtheDreamer]

Apparently War Machine is going to go GIANT?

 

[AvengerPA]

I found these new spoilers on Reddit

 

[Spider-Fan]

I didn't read over this whole thing (in case these spoilers end up being legit). But I saw the last few paragraphs are I was skimming. We'll see if these are accurate soon. But as with any reddit leaks, I am skeptical these are legit.

We had some very off ones about IW just before it came out from Reddit also. So I tend not to believe these things.

 

[I Am The Knight]

The CM stuff sounds suspicious as hell.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Especially since I do believe Endgame was written well before Captain Marvel even had a complete script/crew.

 

[samsnee]

The fact they nerf CM's powers makes it sound believable.

But I'm confused, so the Time Stone that Thanos got in IW was a version from the past? Dr. Strange has the Time Stone from the present and gives it to the Avengers somehow?

I think the last scene with all of them re-appearing and fighting Thanos will be worth the ticket prices. That will probably be where we see Wasp and Michelle Pfeiffer fighting next to everyone else.

If anything, that scene, if true, would be a nice way of inserting the Netflix heroes to a degree.

 

[Relugus]

The fact they nerf CM's powers makes it sound believable.

But I'm confused, so the Time Stone that Thanos got in IW was a version from the past? Dr. Strange has the Time Stone from the present and gives it to the Avengers somehow?

I think the last scene with all of them re-appearing and fighting Thanos will be worth the ticket prices. That will probably be where we see Wasp and Michelle Pfeiffer fighting next to everyone else.

If anything, that scene, if true, would be a nice way of inserting the Netflix heroes to a degree.

I think it is most likely to just be the OG Avengers fighting Thanos at the end. I don't see how you can do a fight with dozens of people, most of whom pose zero threat to Thanos.

 

[KevTravels]

^That would be pretty BA.

A beauty to behold

 

[AvengerPA]

It is not sufficient to just bring back the lost heroes. Half the universe died. You have to restore half the universe, not just a few Avengers. The Snap created chaos. Undoing The Snap five years later or so would also create universe-wide chaos.Time has to reversed and The Snap must be prevented.

 

[JtheDreamer]

Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust stop myselllllllllllf frrrrrom reading thooooooose spoilerrrrrrrrs ......

 

[LoganPool]

So are there going to be two gauntlets? One wielded by Thanos, and the other by the Avengers?

 

[HammerDown]

I don't buy that "leak".
Seems like a ton of stuff that came from someone's imagination coupled with the info that is already known.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

I don't buy that "leak".
Seems like a ton of stuff that came from someone's imagination coupled with the info that is already known.

Yep it sounds like pretty much everything people have already been speculating or that's been rumored for months. Of course if any of it is true its likely the stuff we already know.

 

[samsnee]

Right? Where’s the part where Hulk says he can’t wait for his rematch? He can feel it coming!

 

[HammerDown]

Decided to make a list of stuff we know related to Avengers 4. These are thing based on set reports, interviews, actors leaking stuff accidentally, merchandise, trailers... If you guys know of some interesting stuff feel free to say it and i'll add to the list. It's a good way of keeping track to this sort of stuff.

Update!
New stuff in bold.

AVENGERS: END GAME

• Thanos wiped out "50% of all living creatures in the universe".
• New York is deserted. Almost like a post apocalyptic look to the city... It's mostly in the dark. Empty stadium. No-one in sight. There's a ton of vehicles spread out everywhere, abandoned cars, boats...
• People are doing support meetings to help manage their losses. Cap is in one of those meetings.
• Iron Man, Nebula, Cap, Thor, War Machine, Black Widow, Rocket, Okoye, Banner/Hulk, Ant-Man... are alive after the snap.
• Shuri, Spider-Man, Ant-Man... are presumed missing.
• Scene in a english pub called The Cormorant and Tun with Black Widow, Thor, Banner, Tony Stark… Rocket wearing his comic book accurate suit also enters the pub. The area seems like a "stand in" for Norway because of the recognizable cliffs...
  
• Valkyrie escaped with some asgardians in the beginning of IW. She now has long braided hair and the white lines over the eyes, similar to the ones in Sakaar.
  
• Thor, Valkyrie, Rocket, Hulk… go to Hel or Valhala? Meeting Hela? (Frigga? - Thor’s mother) and Loki are also there. Scene in a asgardian looking building, with asgardian doors, statues, urns and fire pits. Also featuring knights and maidens.
• Scene with bloody viking warriors and some with special effects makeup.
• Thor stares at something indoors. He walks out of some "alien" looking building, equipped with his IW armour and Stormbreaker. There are green mountains outside the building.
• Thor get's a buzz cut hair look at some point with the Quantum Realm suit.
• Captain Marvel joins the fight against Thanos.
• Captain Marvel is one of the few people that can travel in the Quantum Realm without a suit.
• Hulk and Banner merge completely into one persona. Smart Hulk's face resembles even more Banner.
• Hulk wears 2 suits, 1 elastic "one piece suit", colored black, grey and purple. And a Quantum Realm suit.
• Hulk and Rocket have a funny relationship.
  
• Hulk has some sort of weapon when wearing his QR suit. Seems like a metal beam with a big piece of cement on top.
• Pepper Pots uses a version of the Iron Man suit. The Rescue armour. The purple/blue and white one.
• Captain Marvel, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Cap, Rocket, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nebula and War Machine are in Titan together.
• Captain America get his shield back and straps it to his arm. He is shaking, his fingers are dirty and bloodied.
• Cap and Black Widow have a scene together in a bar/dinner.
• Drax and the Guardians come back.
• Tony Stark and Nebula are stranded in space aboard aboard the Benatar. With no food or water. Oxygen enough for a few more hours. Iron Man leaves a goodbye message to Pepper. Nebula consoles him.
• Tony Stark and Nebula are working together. Trying to fix or build something.
• Rocket flies his spaceship through an asteroid field and saves Iron Man.
• Iron Man is seen in Wakanda.
• There's an Outrider attack.
• There’s a scene with Shuri and Star Lord.
• Gamora, Nebula, Ant-Man and The Wasp have a scene together.
  
• Scene with “everyone”. Winter Soldier, Nick Fury, Hank Pym, Janet Van Dyne... "Battle of the Assembled Avengers"
• Thanos at one point fights Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel, War Machine, Thor, Captain America, Iron Man...
• Happy Hogan is in the movie.
• Thanos left arm is damaged by the “Snap”. The gauntlet is also damaged, burnt, almost fused to his arm...
• Thanos went back to an unknown planet where he has literally hanged his armour, on a field next to a cabin where he now lives a peaceful existence roaming around.
• Thanos in battle uses his golden plated armour with the fully assembled gauntlet. And also has a 2 edged staff sword.
• Apparently Hawkeye lost his family in the snap and went a bit crazy.
• Hawkeye now looks like Ronin. Complete with a black and gold suit, a mask, a sword...
  
• Ronin goes on a rampage in Tokyo against Yakuza gangsters. Black Widow finds him there.
• Later on Ronin will go back to his Hawkeye look with the traditional bow and arrows.
• Hawkeye is almost underground. There's dirt, smoke and rouble around him. He is looking at something with a strong red light.
• Doctor Strange talks about the Quantum Realm to Spider-Man.
• Scene with Doctor Strange and Spider-Man. “Peter protect them they are not dead”.
• Flashback/Time Travel: Pepper Potts is married to Tony Stark and they have a child.
  
• F/TT: Ant Man’s daughter will be portrayed by a much older actress.
  
• F/TT: A scene in the 1940’s with Captain America.
• F/TT: Peggy Carter is in the movie.
• F/TT: Gamora and Nebula have scenes together. Both have the same looks as from the first GOTG.
• F/TT: Cap, Iron Man, Hulk and Ant-Man are seen in the battle of New York. Captain America has the same look as in the Avengers. Iron Man has a Shield outfit. Thor has mjolnir. They are using devices on their hands similar to watches. The BARF technology is used in that scene.
• F/TT: Hulk seems to be homeless while walking in NY alley with a bindle.
• F/TT: Iron Man, Thor and Loki have a scene together, the asgardians sport the same looks from Avengers while Iron Man seems to be part of Shield. Loki is captured and i being escorted by a Shield special team.
• F/TT: The Ancient One has a scene with Doctor Strange and Wong.
  
• Flashback: Crossbones appears.
• Gamorra has a scene with Iron Man, Pepper Potts in the Rescue armor, War Machine, Spider-Man and Hulk.
• Thor, Rocket, Captain America, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Nebula, Hulk and Black Widow have matching "space/tech/quantum realm" suits. It's an Avengers uniform. Thor has Stormbreaker, Rocket a big gun and Captain America his traditional shield.
• The Avengers Headquarters is completely deserted with just the Quintet insight.
• Captain America, Black Widow, Banner, War Machine, Thor, Rocket and Ant Man are at the Avengers HQ.
• The Avengers mourn. Black Widow sadly describes their losses, Cap cries, Banner is incredulous, Thor feels sorrow... They all dress casually.
• Scott Lang shows up at the Avengers HQ with his van. Captain America and Black Widow watch it through the surveillance footage. Cap asks if it's archive footage. BW says it's at the front door.
  
• Black Widow trains her aim at the Avengers HQ.
• Black Widow, Banner, Cap and Rhodey are seen coming out of the avengers HQ at night. They glance at something in the sky.
• A team of heroes is seen going out of the Avengers HQ, Captain America with his shield leads the group, followed by Thor with a sleeveless armour and whiteout Stormbreaker, Black Widow fully equipped, Rocket Raccoon, Ant-Man, War Machine and Banner.
• Cap and Black Widow, suited up, are inside the Quinjet and seem to be going on a mission.
• Black Widow has 2 different looks. Short blonde hair and long braided red hair.
• There’s a scene in a spaceship with the heroes talking to each other. Captain America, Black Widow, Pepper Potts, Captain Marvel, Iron Man, Rocket…
  
• The Avengers have a team vehicle, the "Super Quinjet"... War Machine has a vehicle or suit called the "Crusher".
• There's a massive attack on the Avengers HQ. It's attacked by an armored Thanos and 3 different types of enemies, the chitauri and 2 different types of outriders, normal ones and others with massive claws. Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nebula, Rocket, Ant-Man and War Machine fight off the attack.
• Iron Man has several suits in a armour room inside the Avengers HQ. MK1, MK5, and MK41. He seems to be working on a version of his Infinity War armour aka MK50. The outriders attack him there and Iron Man fights back from the inside of the Mark 38 aka Igor from Iron Man 3... a blue heavy lifting suit.
• War Machine and Ant-Man defend the HQ with their avengers team/QR suits. War Machine get's inside his Buster/Crusher giant armour.
• During the attack the Super/Ultimate Quinjet arrives with Thor, Rocket, Hawkeye and Black Widow, all in their team suits to help in the HQ defense battling the chitauri. Black Widow flies the jet, Thor jumps out wielding Stormbreaker, Hawkeye drives an all terrain vehicle out of the jet, he also has his bow and arrows, Rocket has his gun and Black Widow her batons.
• Captain America wears the team/QR suit and battles several outriders in the HQ attack. He has his shield, he also uses a gun and rides an armored motorcycle.
• An armored Thanos with the gauntlet and a giant hammer fights off against Hulk, Captain Marvel and Iron Man. Nebula flies an attack helicopter against the outriders while Ant-Man shrinks up in size to help out. Iron Man drives an armored jeep with Nebula in the back wielding a sword. Nebula and Ant-Man are the only ones wearing their QR/team suits. Seems like it could be at this point that Thanos loses the gauntlet.(The "Avengers Compound Battle" lego set has a suspicious extra purple left hand for Thanos. Also on another interesting note his hand size is exactly the same as Hulk's who could wield the gauntlet.)