Justice League Lounge of Justice - Part 88

[Kevin_28]

Boring background info:
Just a question I'd like to throw out there to everyone. This isn't necessarily what I am feeling, but mainly something that I can see being a potential reservation. I love the idea that Matt Reeves is going back to the world's greatest detective and giving us a more noir/character study approach and his music of choice is really driving home that idea. I think it's a refreshing take and I have the utmost confidence that he will deliver us a tremendous movie.

Main question:
That being said, do you think the action aspect of Batman will take a backseat and, if so, do you feel that would be a detriment to a Batman movie as a whole to the general audience? One of the main criticisms I've heard about War for the Planet of the Apes is that, though it was a fantastic drama/character study with mosaic story structure, it was a bit light on the action aspect and many found it boring.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Boring background info:
Just a question I'd like to throw out there to everyone. This isn't necessarily what I am feeling, but mainly something that I can see being a potential reservation. I love the idea that Matt Reeves is going back to the world's greatest detective and giving us a more noir/character study approach and his music of choice is really driving home that idea. I think it's a refreshing take and I have the utmost confidence that he will deliver us a tremendous movie.

Main question:
That being said, do you think the action aspect of Batman will take a backseat and, if so, do you feel that would be a detriment to a Batman movie as a whole to the general audience? One of the main criticisms I've heard about War for the Planet of the Apes is that, though it was a fantastic drama/character study with mosaic story structure, it was a bit light on the action aspect and many found it boring.

I expect to see a movie showing George Reeves being more willing to adapt to certain degree of positive expectations.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm finally watching Wonder Woman, and I don't think it's that great. I'm 20 minutes in and it has a couple of questionable moments.

1. The war won't come, the war won't come. And then suddenly after years of refusal queen Hyppolita agrees to let her sister train Diana out of the blue cause the plot demands it.
2. Diana hurt her aunt and then she walked alone, the whole army went to the beach on time to witness the German attack, and they were war ready troops with a lot of flaming arrows without preparation or expectation for foreigners to come to their island out of the blue.
3. There is some cool action during the beach battle with some unnecessary slow motion shots, and some questionable decisions made by the women warriors.

This could be another Spider-Man 2; decent-good, but overrated as one of the better superhero and comic book movies.

 

[2kt09]

Boring background info:
Just a question I'd like to throw out there to everyone. This isn't necessarily what I am feeling, but mainly something that I can see being a potential reservation. I love the idea that Matt Reeves is going back to the world's greatest detective and giving us a more noir/character study approach and his music of choice is really driving home that idea. I think it's a refreshing take and I have the utmost confidence that he will deliver us a tremendous movie.

Main question:
That being said, do you think the action aspect of Batman will take a backseat and, if so, do you feel that would be a detriment to a Batman movie as a whole to the general audience? One of the main criticisms I've heard about War for the Planet of the Apes is that, though it was a fantastic drama/character study with mosaic story structure, it was a bit light on the action aspect and many found it boring.

It was light on action but every setpiece was worth the wait. What War for the Planet of the Apes had is a lot of deadspace like your average post-apoco movie. A noir/character study approach typically entails more dialogue than that even if the characters aren't constantly moving.

 

[KalvinEllis]

 

[kguillou]

Boring background info:
Just a question I'd like to throw out there to everyone. This isn't necessarily what I am feeling, but mainly something that I can see being a potential reservation. I love the idea that Matt Reeves is going back to the world's greatest detective and giving us a more noir/character study approach and his music of choice is really driving home that idea. I think it's a refreshing take and I have the utmost confidence that he will deliver us a tremendous movie.

Main question:
That being said, do you think the action aspect of Batman will take a backseat and, if so, do you feel that would be a detriment to a Batman movie as a whole to the general audience? One of the main criticisms I've heard about War for the Planet of the Apes is that, though it was a fantastic drama/character study with mosaic story structure, it was a bit light on the action aspect and many found it boring.

I’ve been thinking about that too. If this movie really is going to be a film noir thats heavy on mystery and atmosphere and less on action and spectacle it may not make the Nolan bucks. This is going to have to show Batman being both a good detective and deliver action to keep the general audiences awake. War of the Apes was HEAVY on drama and light on spectacle and i think was the reason the box office wasnt that spectacular.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Doctor Marrow shouted an order once and pointed get that man without specifying which one among a crowd, and eeeeveryyyyone on base knew to hunt Steve Trevor.

That explosion of the armory should have blown Steve's plane out of the air, there is no way he could not just fly his plane all the way to Themiscyra, he shouldn't survive that blast, his plane shouldn't survive that blast, nothing should have survived that blast.

Not only that, he flies away surviving a hail of bullets from gattling guns aimed at him, nothing in his plane is damaged, but he suddenly appears on an island flying through thick magical fog so his plane would break for no apparent reason?


Are fans of this movie sure this is great?

 

[MbJ]

Boring background info:
Just a question I'd like to throw out there to everyone. This isn't necessarily what I am feeling, but mainly something that I can see being a potential reservation. I love the idea that Matt Reeves is going back to the world's greatest detective and giving us a more noir/character study approach and his music of choice is really driving home that idea. I think it's a refreshing take and I have the utmost confidence that he will deliver us a tremendous movie.

Main question:
That being said, do you think the action aspect of Batman will take a backseat and, if so, do you feel that would be a detriment to a Batman movie as a whole to the general audience? One of the main criticisms I've heard about War for the Planet of the Apes is that, though it was a fantastic drama/character study with mosaic story structure, it was a bit light on the action aspect and many found it boring.

There will likely be the obligatory fight scenes, especially when Batman's interview of shady characters turns bad.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Hippolyta is rather quick at changing her mind about stuff in this 2017 Wonder Woman movie.

"Diana won't fight" to "Ok, let her fight"
"Diana, you won't do as you will" to "Diana, you can do as you will"


And then there is the weird line talking about Ares:
"The more she knows, the sooner he will find her"
What will he find? How will he find her by her knowing? What psychic link is there? Does the movie take time to explain that?

 

[harlequinade]

Just finished The Perfection on Netflix, not great, because as always what can you expect from Netflix lol but it's very twisty and wicked, decent thriller

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The ....... (I won't say the name of that sword Wonder Woman holds)

Young Diana: "Who would wield it?"
Her mother: "Only the fiercest among us could"

And years later the secretary of Steve Trevor holds this sword with absolute ease.

Did Diana's mother mean just holding it, or holding and using the weapon by only the fiercest can wield it? And how fierce is fiercest? Can't there be anyone less fierce?


EDIT: She can hold it to use it. And she found her boss and Diana quite some distance after both went in different directions, and there are no means for her to know the one walking out of the alley was an enemy cause she came after the firing ended by minutes.

Maybe Steve's secretary spies on him in his office. If not, then this moment is plain stupid, which already looks that way.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Gas in a glass container breaks the glass lenses of a gas mask bus has zero effect on the container, and it burns off without any remains.

Cut away from that very brief scene back to the conference, and it's relevant, but poorly paced, and.....

 

[KalvinEllis]

I'm not surprised.

I am. I expected more dislikes.

Well, they obviously knew what they were doing. They were fully aware that trailer would cause controversy, so they could conveniently use it to their advantage to single out bigoted trolls or "comment bombing" again, and try to make it look as if there's no valid criticism for it. It's the same thing every time. That strategy doesn't seem to be working so well anymore.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

What's the point of the strength enhancing/restoring gas Ludendorf is made high on? Feels pretty blah and unnecessary so far.

When he and Doctor Poison laugh together they feel like villains out of a Joel Schumacher Batman movie.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Well, they obviously knew what they were doing. They were fully aware that trailer would cause controversy, so they could conveniently use it to their advantage to single out bigoted trolls or "comment bombing" again, and try to make it look as if there's no valid criticism for it. It's the same thing every time. That strategy doesn't seem to be working so well anymore.

I think Paul Fieg guaranteed it losing effect, even if it's unintentional from him to iron out the trolls.

 

[MbJ]

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Ever wondered while reaching the No Man's Land stuff why a random woman in a trench begs a random woman in civilian outfit to help her while she ignores everyone else?

And did anyone ever wonder why Steve Trevor never tried to pull off an English accent while Chris Pine is playing the role of an English spy?

Wonder Woman had her items on her out of the blue, the shield was on her back the whole time, but it was under her coat, and there was no bulge at all.

Island scenes established her training to fight women with regular human strength, she was not much stronger. And then to get Steve out of the tower s tried to take a long leap without any prior knowledge to anything she can do...
And now she knew she can lift a tank without any prior indicator to what she can and cannot do?

Ally sniper PTSD kicks in in the middle of great action scene because... so he wouldn't steal Wonder Woman's thunder from.... kicking enemy sniper's arse by destroying the tower he's in on him?
What will happen? One man taking down one enemy will make her lose her thunder after all the arse she kicked in this one scene? She needed to be saved by a man and a bunch of women earlier in the island and that was ok, there was no need for anyone to feel it undermine her.


Movie dropped from relatively good to decent to average within an hour, and I'm more than halfway through this ****ing movie.

 

[_Superman_]

Wonder Woman IMO is a good movie but is overrated. However to me it is the 3rd best DCEU movie behind Man of Steel and Batman v Superman.

 

[Mandon Knight]

A lack of action in a Batman film (for more time spent on detective skills and you know...well plot...) would not bother me in the slightest, in fact, I'm all for it.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Wonder Woman IMO is a good movie but is overrated. However to me it is the 3rd best DCEU movie behind Man of Steel and Batman v Superman.

It's not a good movie, it has too many significant problems to hold it back from that.

I'll give this thing credit for being the best in action and cinematography out of all the five DCEU movies I've watched.

 

[Mandon Knight]

GENETICS, I think it's referred too. GINETICS is getting pi*sed with your grandad.

 

[MbJ]

It's how Scottish people say it.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

The Gotti legacy just keeps on giving

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Watched the Spy Kids movies yesterday. My thoughts:

Spy Kids 1 - Liked it. Decent first entry. I won't be watching it again tho.

Spy Kids 2 - I thought this one was the best of the trilogy. It was a lot of fun. Will be watching this one again.

Spy Kids 3 - Not good. Stallone is terribad as the villain. The lack of Carmen is infuriating. The Cortez family is criminally overlooked. Garry and Gerty is underused. It's like Rob Rod took the best parts of the first two and decided to throw it all away. It was a disappointing end to the franchise.

 

[dennis_3107]

It's not a good movie, it has too many significant problems to hold it back from that.

I'll give this thing credit for being the best in action and cinematography out of all the five DCEU movies I've watched.

If you look at it that way then i could and can do that with any movie, dissect them to bits.