Lounge of Justice - Part 90

[Aurakles]

joaquin's joker felt like such a elseworld's one-off, it doesn't make any sense to me for there to be a sequel.

i wouldn't even call this a comic book movie at all.
it is like a modern day dr. jekyll and mr. hyde - a horror movie.
about a man who has his demons and struggles to be a decent human being, but eventually let's those demons take over.

when i watched it, i did not even think this was THE joker. it is its own thing.

Agreed, it's a good film, but he isn't a supervillain, he isn't a mastermind, you don't need Batman to stop him.

 

[Arachnerd]

Probably because it was supposed to be an origin story?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

What's the first image? I see the Batman Begins gif, but not the other thing.

 

[Greenlite]

Agreed, it's a good film, but he isn't a supervillain, he isn't a mastermind, you don't need Batman to stop him.

You mean the sequel will be about the GCPD freshmen and the Arkham Asylum staff working together to find out where he is, deal with the mob, debate Arthur, and capture him eventually?

 

[Consona]

Pardon my cynical me kicking in, but Joker was way too successful not to make a sequel, no matter how stupid that idea is.

On the other hand, I liked the feeling of that world and I'm still in awe by how Phillips was able to make a talk show infinitely more tense than avengers trying to stop Thanos from killing half the universe. #TrueCinema #MartinIsRight

If Phillips can make the sequel as good as Joker, I'm so ready for another Phoenix concerto. (Still, that film needs no sequel.)


But, oh boy, those last 30 minutes, I remember that I was so thrilled I literally stopped breathing during the interview part and was just waiting with my eyes bulged like melons for what will happen next... Wow. That was truly something extraordinary.

 

[Greenlite]

Ya the interview was interesting because I wasn't rooting for the guy but I felt I knew him better than any character on that stage and I'm like SMH when I hear their responses etc and can see how they're triggering him.

It's a weird but interesting feeling watching that scene.

 

[heatvision38]

What's the first image? I see the Batman Begins gif, but not the other thing.

Nothing, I think it was the initial attempt at the gif that didn't work. I can't seem to delete it.

 

[chintai80]

Ya the interview was interesting because I wasn't rooting for the guy but I felt I knew him better than any character on that stage and I'm like SMH when I hear their responses etc and can see how they're triggering him.

It's a weird but interesting feeling watching that scene.

yea i feel scenes like that really show that the joker is a cautionary tale:

- better to show some kindness or compassion because you never know what kind of pain someone might be in.

not that the movie justifies arthur's murders, but it provides an explanation on how he got from point A to point B.
and that evil, unfortunately, many times does not grow in a vacuum.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm a lone voice here, but I have no interest in seeing Joker's film. I was interested in seeing it because I feel like watching all comic book movies that get released, but I don't like to watch movies focusing on villains in general.

Nothing, I think it was the initial attempt at the gif that didn't work. I can't seem to delete it.

Alright. Thank you.

 

[Greenlite]

 

[Aurakles]

You mean the sequel will be about the GCPD freshmen and the Arkham Asylum staff working together to find out where he is, deal with the mob, debate Arthur, and capture him eventually?

I mean in the film we can see that the police caught him by themselves, because it ends with him in hospital.
This Joker isn't a criminal mastermind, his effects on the city are completely unintentional, unlike Ledgers Joker, he really isn't a guy with a plan.
We saw nothing to suggest he would be able to effectively plan crimes or organise a mob. He was as swept along by events as much as everyone else. He doesn't have the kind of talents traditional Jokers have, so the police are able to handle him without Batmans help, the film shows this by ending not with him on top of the police car, but with him in Arkham.

He lacks the competency usually associated with The Joker, most of what he achieved was through luck.
I'm not bashing the film, I thought it was very good, and I'm not saying there shouldn't be a sequel. I'm just saying that a normal police force wouldn't have a huge amount of trouble capturing him as he appeared in this movie. Which the film itself backs up.

 

[Greenlite]

I mean in the film we can see that the police caught him by themselves, because it ends with him in hospital.
This Joker isn't a criminal mastermind, his effects on the city are completely unintentional, unlike Ledgers Joker, he really isn't a guy with a plan.
We saw nothing to suggest he would be able to effectively plan crimes or organise a mob. He was as swept along by events as much as everyone else. He doesn't have the kind of talents traditional Jokers have, so the police are able to handle him without Batmans help, the film shows this by ending not with him on top of the police car, but with him in Arkham.

He lacks the competency usually associated with The Joker, most of what he achieved was through luck.
I'm not bashing the film, I thought it was very good, and I'm not saying there shouldn't be a sequel. I'm just saying that a normal police force wouldn't have a huge amount of trouble capturing him as he appeared in this movie. Which the film itself backs up.

I was....joking =D

But for argument's sake, they could easily say he made up a lot of the story and he's way smarter and efficient, he just told the therapist a dumbed-down version of himself, because....that's what geniuses do.

Plus Joaquin thinks he's playing "The Joker" and the cinematographer interpreted it's not a dream (though they agree the other side's totally valid as well)

 

[Aurakles]

I was....joking =D

But for argument's sake, they could easily say he made up a lot of the story and he's way smarter and efficient, he just told the therapist a dumbed-down version of himself, because....that's what geniuses do.

Plus Joaquin thinks he's playing "The Joker" and the cinematographer interpreted it's not a dream (though they agree the other side's totally valid as well)

Oh... I mean, I was just joking too. Ha ha... oh bother.

Yeah there's a lot they could do with it, unreliable narrator gives plenty of leeway.

 

[Greenlite]

Would be really cool if someone like Batman or Gordon interrogate Arthur Fleck and ends with this

*Mentalist interrogating a ******

 

[KalvinEllis]

 

[Greenlite]

I hope he fights Wonder Woman in the 1920s for a cameo scene before moving onto JSA decades later, the audience will all get a kick out of it lol

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Would be really cool if someone like Batman or Gordon interrogate Arthur Fleck and ends with this

*Mentalist interrogating a ******

I did not watch the show, but the shift from pretending to be an injured puppy to showing his true colors as a wild wolf gave me chills when I stumbled across this scene on YouTube once.

 

[chintai80]

lol he even built mini dog guardian statues in the front.

 

[Aurakles]

Off to see The Irishman.

 

[Consona]

Herrmann was a f***ing beast, man!



These modern composers couldn't put together 10 seconds of music like this even if the life of their firstborn was depending on it.

The orchestration alone is so tremendous. The way he juggles with the basic idea and the developments around the orchestra is crazy.

Reeves got Giacchino to compose for his "hitchcock-esque" Batman film. Rofl, good luck with that.

Was trying to listen to his Star Trek scores. He had rather great ideas there, but couldn't make even one fair piece out of them. The finale to Into Dorkness was so cringy it drained all my willpower to finish it. 15 years younger Horner was composing great symphonic pieces for Khan and Spock, ffs.
Jeez and I bet Abrams will take Giacchino to score Superman for him, is this some karmic revenge or what...

 

[KalvinEllis]

Since I got a comment recently deleted due to dropping an F bomb, I would try to do better this time:

Nobody fornicates with the Jesus.

 

[chintai80]

turturro as carmine falcone?

good choice, good choice.

 

[Consona]

Since I got a comment recently deleted due to dropping an F bomb, I would try to do better this time:

Nobody fornicates with the Jesus.

Reminds me this exquisite internet gem:

Connely NBSPLV Lebowski

Put it on repeat and ponder on the poetic ephemerality of your being.

 

[Aurakles]

The Irishman was brilliant.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Reeves putting together quite a crew

Gonna feel real good to have a Batman solo film again, hard to believe it’ll be almost a decade since the last by the time this comes out