Luke Cage Luke Cage General Discussion Thread

[MadVillainy]

I thought he definitely seemed like a tank....

i mean, the guy isn't Juggernaut

that also being said... I think Cage, Jessica Jones, and Iron Fist should eventually just merge into the Heroes for Hire show

I don't know about the 3 but I always wondered if Cage/Iron fist would merge

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I don't know about the 3 but I always wondered if Cage/Iron fist would merge

well Jessica and Cage are pretty synonymous... especially most of her character run thus far and story archs have been now with him in the books... so eventually those 2 need to merge.

and Cage and Iron Fist need to eventually as well

 

[MadVillainy]

I found Luke to be kinda weak in Jessica Jones. Man, he should be like a tank, just like the comics.

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Taken down by a shotgun? Sheesh

[BLACKOUT]I'm sure a shotgun blast from far away wouldn't do as much damage. Same as a regular hand gun.

What they did with the unbreakable skin was good to me. Sure a bullet/knife might not pierce the skin, but there's still concussive (i think that's the write word) damage.
Think of it like an extremely good bullet proof vest. Sure, hopefully the bullet won't pierce but you ribs and other bones can still be broken. Especially at point blank range[/BLACKOUT]

His skin is unbreakable, not his spine, I'm honestly surprised he wouldn't be paralyzed by something like that

but I do think Luke needs to be a bit tougher personality-wise and have some more attitude
he was a bit too nice and loveable in JJ

I dont know too much about Cage, but usually he is a bit meaner. I didn't mind that he wasn't the overly tough guy but I think a bit more sarcasm, a bit more of a bite would be good.

well Jessica and Cage are pretty synonymous... especially most of her character run thus far and story archs have been now with him in the books... so eventually those 2 need to merge.

and Cage and Iron Fist need to eventually as well

I think Jones can stand on her own without Cage. Cage could make apperances on her show and vice versa but I don't think they NEED to merge.

I can for sure see them merging all 3 once they get a few more characters their own shows like Punisher and Moon KNight. Otherwise, I don't see Marvel taking off 3 shows and making it into 1.

Also unless they make another show with a female lead I don't see them merging JJ.

I wouldnt be mad if they did it, however.

 

[Web-Head]

Am I the only one who thinks it would have made sense for Luke's show to be released before Jessica Jones?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

[BLACKOUT]I'm sure a shotgun blast from far away wouldn't do as much damage. Same as a regular hand gun.

What they did with the unbreakable skin was good to me. Sure a bullet/knife might not pierce the skin, but there's still concussive (i think that's the write word) damage.
Think of it like an extremely good bullet proof vest. Sure, hopefully the bullet won't pierce but you ribs and other bones can still be broken. Especially at point blank range[/BLACKOUT]



I dont know too much about Cage, but usually he is a bit meaner. I didn't mind that he wasn't the overly tough guy but I think a bit more sarcasm, a bit more of a bite would be good.



I think Jones can stand on her own without Cage. Cage could make apperances on her show and vice versa but I don't think they NEED to merge.

I can for sure see them merging all 3 once they get a few more characters their own shows like Punisher and Moon KNight. Otherwise, I don't see Marvel taking off 3 shows and making it into 1.

Also unless they make another show with a female lead I don't see them merging JJ.

I wouldnt be mad if they did it, however.

the problem is comic wise, the main jessica jones story is now told... everything beyond that is basically "gets pregnant, marries cage, they protect the baby, occasionally teams up with cage, occasionally teams up with the avengers. So if they want to create new stuff before tying her down with cage.. they can. but once they get them serious... it'd be really hard to not have the other appear constantly on their shows, especially if living together

 

[MadVillainy]

Am I the only one who thinks it would have made sense for Luke's show to be released before Jessica Jones?

Not really.

Unless Cage's show was a standard origin arc; which I'm 98% sure it is. Otherwise I don't see why do it.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Am I the only one who thinks it would have made sense for Luke's show to be released before Jessica Jones?

story wise.. maybe. especially if his is a prequel (something tells me it will be both prequel and continuation of where we left him in JJ)

but i think it was a smart move to put a women driven show first .. and JJ was full of strong females driving the show

 

[MadVillainy]

i assume Cage will continue his story with JJ with flashbacks to the past. That seems to be what the Netflix shows are doing.

 

[Web-Head]

story wise.. maybe. especially if his is a prequel (something tells me it will be both prequel and continuation of where we left him in JJ)

but i think it was a smart move to put a women driven show first .. and JJ was full of strong females driving the show

Yeah, I meant story wise. I agree it was a smart move to make the women driven show first. But I guess since the origin stories, especially on Netflix, are really glanced over...it makes sense. I just think it's a bit weird he already has his powers and everything on JJ and then he might not in the beginning of his own show.

 

[Rocinante]

Once they get to Jessica having Danielle , it'll be difficult to keep their shows separate.

 

[chamber-music]

Each of these characters have enough material to maintain there own ongoing shows.

Jessica Jones ended with room to explore more storylines with her character. I don't think they will rush to do the pregnancy and marriage storyline anytime soon. Things don't play out exactly like the comics when they adapt them.

There will be a 13 episode Defenders series featuring all of them so there doesn't need to be a paired up Heroes for hire show.

Luke's appearance in Jessica Jones is said to take place in the middle of his story. We will see the stuff leading up to him being in Jessica Jones and what takes place after Jessica Jones.

In regards to his powers

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Luke is still susceptible to internal injuries like the brain swelling he received in Jessica Jones due to taking a point blank shotgun blast to the chin

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Each of these characters have enough material to maintain there own ongoing shows.

Jessica Jones ended with room to still explore more stories. I don't think they will rush to do the pregnancy and marriage storyline anytime soon. Things don't play out exactly like the comics when they adapt them.

There will be a 13 episode Defenders series featuring all of them so there doesn't need to be a paired up Heroes for hire show.

Luke's appearance in Jessica Jones is said to take place in the middle of his story. We will see the stuff leading up to him being in Jessica Jones and what takes place after Jessica Jones.

In regards to his powers

Spoiler

Luke is still susceptible to internal injuries like the brain swelling he received in Jessica Jones due to taking a point blank shotgun blast to the chin

im talking post Defenders for Heroes for Hire.... Defenders is suppose to be like a once every 4 years thing.. like the Avengers films... an "Event series" if you will.

If marvel wants to expand their netflix roster to the likes of Moon Knight, Punisher, Elektra, White Tiger even.. and possibly go mystic with Hellcat/Hellstorm, Ghost Rider, Blade, etc... then they need to consolidated. and the easiest thing to do is eventually merge Cage/Jessica/Iron Fist into heroes for hire... you can even move some Movie characters into that zone... like Black Cat once she's in a spidey movie.

 

[chamber-music]

They cast Claire Temples mother.

I wonder what Claire's role will be in Cage series as in the comics she was originally his love interest but it doesn't seem like they will be going down that path in the show.

 

[Rocinante]

Each of these characters have enough material to maintain there own ongoing shows.

Jessica Jones ended with room to explore more storylines with her character. I don't think they will rush to do the pregnancy and marriage storyline anytime soon. Things don't play out exactly like the comics when they adapt them.

There will be a 13 episode Defenders series featuring all of them so there doesn't need to be a paired up Heroes for hire show.

Luke's appearance in Jessica Jones is said to take place in the middle of his story. We will see the stuff leading up to him being in Jessica Jones and what takes place after Jessica Jones.

In regards to his powers

Spoiler

Luke is still susceptible to internal injuries like the brain swelling he received in Jessica Jones due to taking a point blank shotgun blast to the chin

Not saying you're wrong, but the whole

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"Normal ****" monologue from Jessica while Luke was unconscious before her final fight with Kilgrave suggests otherwise. Plus Healy's comment when Jess came looking for Cage.

 

[storyteller]

Am I the only one who thinks it would have made sense for Luke's show to be released before Jessica Jones?

How so? We have no idea what the plot is for his show. The story may be dependent on it being after Jessica.

One thing to note is Luke not a hero in JJ. What would get him to join the defenders. I think we will see Luke before getting his powers, meeting and losing his wife. Fallout out from Jessica Jones and finally where he goes from there.

JJ basically left him with nothing.

 

[Loki882]

They've already confirmed that Luke's show takes place AFTER JJ. We'll probably see some flashbacks detailing his origins/how he got his powers. But the main plot is after.

 

[McSir]

So is Jessica confirmed (or rumored) to show up?

 

[RockSP]

Once they get to Jessica having Danielle , it'll be difficult to keep their shows separate.

No comic adaptation follows the comics completely. No reason to assume they will be having a baby.

 

[BarryAllen]

Am I the only one who thinks it would have made sense for Luke's show to be released before Jessica Jones?

Yeah, I wished his show came first and fully exploring his world and his transformation from former gang member trying to put his life back together to hero. And then after that, seeing him assist Jessica would've had a bigger impact because he is helping someone who is in a similar situation as him.

story wise.. maybe. especially if his is a prequel (something tells me it will be both prequel and continuation of where we left him in JJ)

but i think it was a smart move to put a women driven show first .. and JJ was full of strong females driving the show

As opposed to a minority show?

Once they get to Jessica having Danielle , it'll be difficult to keep their shows separate.

I bet Danielle won't be coming for a looooooooong time. They want to explore these characters in their prime. Jessica really stagnated as a character in the comics once she had a baby.

im talking post Defenders for Heroes for Hire.... Defenders is suppose to be like a once every 4 years thing.. like the Avengers films... an "Event series" if you will.

If marvel wants to expand their netflix roster to the likes of Moon Knight, Punisher, Elektra, White Tiger even.. and possibly go mystic with Hellcat/Hellstorm, Ghost Rider, Blade, etc... then they need to consolidated. and the easiest thing to do is eventually merge Cage/Jessica/Iron Fist into heroes for hire... you can even move some Movie characters into that zone... like Black Cat once she's in a spidey movie.

You're delusional if you think Marvel is going to sacrifice Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones for the characters you mentioned above. There's a reason these characters were chosen to have their own shows, and that's because they had unique stories to tell. They are going to try to build up those individual character IPs, so to immediately get rid of that by combining them into Heroes for Hire (which makes no sense with the Defenders already going to be the team-up) makes absolutely no business sense. In addition, Marvel is looking at those characters because they know they have untapped potential. Punisher's tropes have already beaten to death across a variety of movies and TV shows. Moon Knight can't really stand out when DC is producing so much of Batman and Marvel already has their own psychologically conflicted vigilante in Daredevil. But what out there right now is even similar to Luke Cage or Iron Fist? That's right, nothing.

What most comic fans have is short-term thinking. They think that just because things where a certain way in the comics, or that certain characters weren't as mainstream, they can't function at that level when they do get shine. Look at Guardians. Obscure property before-hand that nobody believed in, now going on to its second of probably multiple movies. The same exact principle is being applied for Cage, Fist and Jones.

 

[Random490]

Am I the only one who thinks it would have made sense for Luke's show to be released before Jessica Jones?

I disagree, I think it works better how they did it. We're not sure how Luke Cage's series will play out but from the indication of DD and JJ he may end up becomes somewhat famous as a neighborhood hero, which would make his introduction in JJ a little more tricky. Also the way it was written allows JJ to take center stage and not feel like Luke Cage season 1.5. In JJ we get a perfect separation from "Fugitive keeping his down" to "take charge, kick ass hero" I think the over all narrative works better that way.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Am I the only one who thinks it would have made sense for Luke's show to be released before Jessica Jones?

I think we'd have to see Luke Cage before we decide if that makes sense. My guess is that, while it starts first, it finishes after.

 

[gohei_]

I was reading a bit on the Marvel wiki and saw that Luke got his powers from people trying to replicate the super soldier serum, has that been the official origin in all the comics for him?
I find it interesting that a lot of superpowered humans can be traced back to Steve Rogers and Dr Erskine.

 

[chamber-music]

I was reading a bit on the Marvel wiki and saw that Luke got his powers from people trying to replicate the super soldier serum, has that been the official origin in all the comics for him?
I find it interesting that a lot of superpowered humans can be traced back to Steve Rogers and Dr Erskine.

Yep. Cage is a product of a cellular regeneration variation of the Super-Soldier program.

Project rebirth and the wider weapon plus program created a number of heroes and villains.

 

[gohei_]

Yep. Cage is a product of a cellular regeneration variation of the Super-Soldier program.

Project rebirth and the wider weapon plus program created a number of heroes and villains.

Cool

 

[Dr. Evil]

The pressure is on (showrunner and executive producer) Cheo Hodari Coker to make Mariah and/or Cottonmouth as scary and intimidating as Kingpin and Kilgrave.