The Force Awakens Luke Skywalker - Mark Hamill

[Indy Flash]

Cool....

Too cool.

 

[BatLobster]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mark is intentionally underselling the movie just to keep expectations in check.

There really is something to be said about expectation levels, in general. I'm not saying it's true for the PT, but hype levels can kill something if it's merely good or great and not the rapture, as Mark said.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Maybe Mark took a look at Internet guesses about the story and had the same reaction as Oscar Isaac. "The [plot theories] that get that formulated based on these things — they couldn’t be more far off-base."

 

[Solidus]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mark is intentionally underselling the movie just to keep expectations in check.

There really is something to be said about expectation levels, in general. I'm not saying it's true for the PT, but hype levels can kill something if it's merely good or great and not the rapture, as Mark said.

Yeah, as I said before the PT's hype was not even a piece of it's downfall. Being over the top with expectations may effect one's viewing the first time or two, but once they are in check if the film is good, the film is good. I think he is truly talking about SW fans in general, just listening to some of them on one side or another and just the over the top guessing, or lengths they go to get things leaked. I think for the majority having expectations is normal.

Expectations however for SW are lowered. People remember the last ones.

However in the end no matter how excited I get for a film, I just turn it all off and take in the film for what it is. So many create a checklist of what has to be in the film. And if it's not they get mad. That to me is the expectation. Nothing wrong with expecting a superb film, but a film that has a fanboy checklist of "must haves" or as Mag said some cling to a rumor so much if it does not come to fruition they hate it. I just take the film for what it is and judge it on that.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

Wise words!

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Schmoes Know Movie Show - Mark Hamill talks with the Schmoes!

 

[Apollo]

I am surprised he agreed to an interview with Schmoes Knows. After that big spoiler they released a year or so ago. You would think they would be on the blacklist.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I just saw Luke Skywalker on the big screen again. It was a good little warm up. t:

 

[Herolee10]

Curious, for fans of the character...did you guys ever feel like, while watching the OT, the only (if not, the biggest) reason why Luke was able to come out top at the end of it was mainly because of him being Vader's son, thus being afforded the luxury that every else (that had gone against Vader in the past) didn't have?

Or did you guys feel that Luke rightfully earned his place as being the hero of the OT, regardless of his connection to Vader?

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

I remember Luke as the guy who cause the end of the Empire. Problem is if they're continuing the Empire as if Luke accomplished nothing at the end of ROTJ.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Curious, for fans of the character...did you guys ever feel like, while watching the OT, the only (if not, the biggest) reason why Luke was able to come out top at the end of it was mainly because of him being Vader's son, thus being afforded the luxury that every else (that had gone against Vader in the past) didn't have?

Or did you guys feel that Luke rightfully earned his place as being the hero of the OT, regardless of his connection to Vader?

Without hindsight, he absolutely did, even with it. Luke was most definitely his own man. Despite him knowing his father was a Jedi, it was really his choice and dedication to wanting to become a Jedi. If anything, Vader as his father makes it even harder for him. With or without the knowledge. He has a lot on his shoulders, and the internal struggle of even becoming like his father was more of a danger. It was the reconciliation of becoming his father or not being his father, yet he was still always his father's son. But at the end of the day, he earned his place by his own decisions. He did not succumb to the same temptations of the dark side. Even when he was lied to, he still didn't do anything awful.

You have to give credit to the Owen and Bury Lars for raising him. I think this is the main source of his humanity. Similar as to how the Kent's raised Kal El. The morals and values they instilled in him made him the man he was. Luke came from a a very different upbringing despite being on the same planet. If it wasn't for them, it is entirely possibly Luke might have turned out the same way as his father. Even Owen for seeing the absolute necessity for Luke to not become like him, hence perhaps him always wanting to delay Luke leaving the homestead. It was always for the best of him, and it's possible later on, Luke realized that and appreciated it even more, perhaps humbling him.

 

[Herolee10]

Without hindsight, he absolutely did, even with it. Luke was most definitely his own man. Despite him knowing his father was a Jedi, it was really his choice and dedication to wanting to become a Jedi. If anything, Vader as his father makes it even harder for him. With or without the knowledge. He has a lot on his shoulders, and the internal struggle of even becoming like his father was more of a danger. It was the reconciliation of becoming his father or not being his father, yet he was still always his father's son. But at the end of the day, he earned his place by his own decisions. He did not succumb to the same temptations of the dark side. Even when he was lied to, he still didn't do anything awful.

You have to give credit to the Owen and Bury Lars for raising him. I think this is the main source of his humanity. Similar as to how the Kent's raised Kal El. The morals and values they instilled in him made him the man he was. Luke came from a a very different upbringing despite being on the same planet. If it wasn't for them, it is entirely possibly Luke might have turned out the same way as his father. Even Owen for seeing the absolute necessity for Luke to not become like him, hence perhaps him always wanting to delay Luke leaving the homestead. It was always for the best of him, and it's possible later on, Luke realized that and appreciated it even more, perhaps humbling him.

Completely agree with you on these points.

Though in hindsight, I was actually referring more about whether people felt that Luke had it easier when going up against Vader, especially when compared to others, due to Vader having a soft spot for Luke...what with him being his son and all.lol

 

[Doctor Jones]

Not really. I mean despite us knowing Vader chooses Luke over the Emperor in the end, that is a self contained thing and something Vader chose for himself. Before that, one could argue Vader may have felt something with Luke trying to appeal to his humanity, but he was always deemed to be not saved by everyone except Luke. Vader himself felt this too. It's a testament to Luke's will and humanity for him to appeal to his father who was just considered more machine than man.

 

[Loki882]

Vader's comment in ROTJ about "it's too late for me" was interesting. I kind of took it to mean that he DID realize that what he was doing was wrong on some level, but considered himself to be too "far gone" by that point to really change. Obi Wan and Yoda thought the same thing. Luke's greatness was in his recognizing that that WASN'T the case, and being able to finally convince his father that it was too late to reform/redeem himself. Also, Luke was able to resist both Sheev's attempts to corrupt him AND Yoda/Obi Wan's desire for him to simply kill Vader, and forge his own path that was better than both.

BTW, I just got back from seeing Kingsman, and seeing Hamill pop up in that was fun (even if it wasn't a huge role).

 

[Great Mind(s)]

Well RotJ must have been some kind of victory and change in power...

 

[Gianakin_]

Vader's comment in ROTJ about "it's too late for me" was interesting. I kind of took it to mean that he DID realize that what he was doing was wrong on some level, but considered himself to be too "far gone" by that point to really change. Obi Wan and Yoda thought the same thing. Luke's greatness was in his recognizing that that WASN'T the case, and being able to finally convince his father that it was too late to reform/redeem himself. Also, Luke was able to resist both Sheev's attempts to corrupt him AND Yoda/Obi Wan's desire for him to simply kill Vader, and forge his own path that was better than both.

Exactly. Vader was wollowing in self-pity and anger at that point and Luke was finally giving him a reason to face himself and his past deeds.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

STAR WARS CELEBRATION 2015: MARK HAMILL RETURNS AND MORE!

http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-celebration-2015-mark-hamill-returns-and-more?linkId=12480639

 

[HarryOsborn]

I remember Luke as the guy who cause the end of the Empire. Problem is if they're continuing the Empire as if Luke accomplished nothing at the end of ROTJ.

Luke's story in the end wasn't about the Empire, it was more personal. It was atoning with his father. In the end he redeemed his father, used selflessness to defeat the Emperor, and became the first of a new breed of Jedi. See this is why it bugs me so much when people say that the Sith/The Empire returning would undo Luke's accomplishments. At the end of the day the heart of the story remains intact and that's all that matters. You got the chills from the emotions not the accomplishments.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

It was personal from the get-go with Luke. He wanted to learn the ways of the force and become a Jedi like his father. But the twist is that he became the Jedi his father wishes he could have been.

 

[Herolee10]

First of all, great posts by everyone that responded to the question that I had previously posted.

I was wondering if a few posters here could help me settle a debate that my friend and I have had regarding Luke's victory over Vader at the end of their duel in "ROTJ".

In your guys's opinion, was Luke able to beat Vader in their lightsaber duel as a result of him having the required skills by then (well that, along with tapping into the Dark Side for a bit)? Or was he just lucky because of the fact that Vader was actually going easy on him when it came to their lightsaber duel?

 

[HarryOsborn]

First of all, great posts by everyone that responded to the question that I had previously posted.

I was wondering if a few posters here could help me settle a debate that my friend and I have had regarding Luke's victory over Vader at the end of their duel in "ROTJ".

In your guys's opinion, was Luke able to beat Vader in their lightsaber duel as a result of him having the required skills by then (well that, along with tapping into the Dark Side for a bit)? Or was he just lucky because of the fact that Vader was actually going easy on him when it came to their lightsaber duel?

Vader only went easy on Luke in their duel on Cloud City. In Jedi he was able to beat Vader because he tapped into the dark side and because he'd grown stronger with the force.

 

[GalenMarek]

Luke Skywalker back & after 30 years glad to him back.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

USA Today - Mark Hamill never expected to play Luke Skywalker again. Like, EVER.

http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2...ected-to-play-luke-skywalker-again-like-ever/

Nothing new (SW:TFA) but here's the link anyway.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

https://***********/starwars/status/588782053073682432

Luke Skywalker V.O. in the second teaser:

Voice-over: "The Force is strong in my family."
Voice-over: "My father has it."
Voice-over: "I have it."
Voice-over: "My sister has it."
Voice-over: "You have that power, too."

 

[Sithborg]

Looks like he lost the fake skin on his robo hand.