Making the perfect Spidey suit

[okspider]

Well I've spoken with a couple of guys. Ernie was really friendly and it seems like he's the only one willing to help a newbie as nobody else would even answer my questions. I didn't realize that the webbing alone was nearly $600 or that these finished suits were going for $4000. OUCH What is the deal with the webbing? It seems like the webbing has become coveted. I used to see it on ebay for a reasonable amount but now it seems like it's super $$$. Why would it be only sold attached to a suit? I would say a spideyplanet kit would be great but then I was informed the colors aren't as good as the digital prints on ebay. I may just have to skip the webbing and get something off ebay. Maybe I'm way off base but it seems the general attitude of helping people make a suit has changed. Very disappointing.

 

[JESTER FX]

Thanks for the info on that web page he has some cool work. I am 5’10 but my friend was in the costume and he is shorter than me I fill it a lot better. I agree with you as far as the zombie app goes I just did not have time to make a jaw piece for the con I was at I am making 1 now but I am doing 1 that covers the nose and jaw and it will be foam latex that way it will still be able 2 talk breath eat and drink. Also this costume was just a trial I want 2 do a full line of marvel zombies and since me and mike re did our prints I figured that cutting this 1 up would be a good start. All things considered I am pretty happy with the way it pulled together the zombie app is the only thing I did not like. But live and learn as we all know on this board everything is trial and error and know I know what 2 tweak for the next 1 and please if any 1 has any ideas on how 2 make it work better or any views on what it should look like I would love 2 hear it I am always looking 2 improve things with the help of friends

 

[SpidermanC]

I would say a spideyplanet kit would be great but then I was informed the colors aren't as good as the digital prints on ebay..

From the looks of that, I would assume you got that from Ernie. Which is basically bias. Ernie has his little 'trust' group, which includes the seller of that print on ebay. They all back each other up with no real experience of others work. I can assure you Schuurke's [spideyplanet] has a better print. I've worked with his suits twice, and have yet to see Ernie get his hands on one. Comparing Schuurke's print, to the 'ebay print's' pictures I've seen, let alone the word of others.. there's no competition. Schuurke's quality is much higher.

Again, the low price you saw on ebay for those webs was probably because the quality is not there. Also, the lower price may have been because they payed next to nothing to make a mold and produce the webs. Webs are generally sold only on a suit because of re-casters. Gluing the webs on a suit takes more time and practice to get right, than sewing the suit. That's why the suits with webs are so high priced.

 

[okspider]

From the looks of that, I would assume you got that from Ernie. Which is basically bias. Ernie has his little 'trust' group, which includes the seller of that print on ebay. They all back each other up with no real experience of others work. I can assure you Schuurke's [spideyplanet] has a better print. I've worked with his suits twice, and have yet to see Ernie get his hands on one. Comparing Schuurke's print, to the 'ebay print's' pictures I've seen, let alone the word of others.. there's no competition. Schuurke's quality is much higher.

Again, the low price you saw on ebay for those webs was probably because the quality is not there. Also, the lower price may have been because they payed next to nothing to make a mold and produce the webs. Webs are generally sold only on a suit because of re-casters. Gluing the webs on a suit takes more time and practice to get right, than sewing the suit. That's why the suits with webs are so high priced.

I'm not sure what web of conflict (pardon the pun) I stepped into but this all seems really strange looking in from the outside. I can only go by what I've seen so far and Ernie and jesterfx are the only ones that has stepped up to answer any questions. BUt now I understand why my questions weren't answered.

As for me I'm just a guy wanting to make a good looking realistic suit for his nephews birthday and not get raked over the coals. I'm not looking to recast any webs or even resell the costume when I'm done but instead place it on a mannequin. I wouldn't know the first thing about recasting anyways. Can you give me a few more details on what makes one suit a better print? Do you have a photo I can compare of the prints because basically now I feel like I'm in some he said she said match.

As for the recasting of the webs, I assume people have ordered the webbing and made a mold and then created their own. I don't really see the problem with that as long as they aren't trying to make a bunch of money off somebody else's work but then again that applies to the person selling webbing for a costume that in reality belongs to Marvel. Again this used to be a place where people were here to help each other.

I thought the idea here was to help people have a descent spidey suit because Marvel doesnt offer it. Not make money off those desires. After all that truly is Marvel's job. I really hope that this has not become a cash cow for people. That's not very spidey like. NO disrespect to anyone just my opinion.

 

[Crimson Spider]

okspider,

i totally understand what you are saying man, i'm in your boat as well. try to see it from the other side though. you can tell everyone you won't recast them, but basically it is just your word keeping you from doing that. nobody here knows for sure that you won't recast them and then turn around and sell them for a profit. so, i can understand why others are leery of letting their work get ripped off. i know it took many of these guys lots of time, effort, and money to get what they have. they are afraid (rightfully so) of someone just leeching off of their work.

 

[okspider]

I've since spoken with Brad and come to understand the whole situation. It is a complete contradiction to sell parts for a Spiderman suit and rip somebody off that spent a couple grand for their molds. I think a recast for yourself would be ok but using somebody else's work to make you money is stealing and completely unethical. I guess once it's been done though it is too late. Out of curiosity what is the general feeling of the people putting together other people's suits and then selling it. I've seen a few on ebay like that. I've almost made my mind up on what I am getting. Just waiting on a few more opinions. The wife has had to give approval to spend this much money as I didn't think it would cost this much and I gotta have "more cowbell" Sorry meant eurethane webbing. ;-) So anyone that I've spoken with I thanks for your input and thanks for allowing a guy like me the opportunity to make a suit like this. I hope you guys will be as helpful when I get the suit I order because I know I'll have ???? Sadly I don't think I'll make halloween but hopefully the nephew's b-day.

 

[Spiderman0884]

Well I've spoken with a couple of guys. Ernie was really friendly and it seems like he's the only one willing to help a newbie as nobody else would even answer my questions. I didn't realize that the webbing alone was nearly $600 or that these finished suits were going for $4000. OUCH What is the deal with the webbing? It seems like the webbing has become coveted. I used to see it on ebay for a reasonable amount but now it seems like it's super $$$. Why would it be only sold attached to a suit? I would say a spideyplanet kit would be great but then I was informed the colors aren't as good as the digital prints on ebay. I may just have to skip the webbing and get something off ebay. Maybe I'm way off base but it seems the general attitude of helping people make a suit has changed. Very disappointing.

Yeah OUCH part of the reason why suits with Urethane webbing cost so much as you could see is because of the time and effort it takes to apply it onto the suit which takes days weeks and months plus you have to buy a really good glue that will stick well with Urethane if not you will get a messy suit and it will all go to waste. So it's really not the suits that cost that much your practically paying for the laber.

 

[okspider]

Yeah OUCH part of the reason why suits with Urethane webbing cost so much as you could see is because of the time and effort it takes to apply it onto the suit which takes days weeks and months plus you have to buy a really good glue that will stick well with Urethane if not you will get a messy suit and it will all go to waste. So it's really not the suits that cost that much your practically paying for the laber.

I understand that. That's why I was trying to find the webbing so I could do the work.

 

[Spiderman0884]

I understand that. That's why I was trying to find the webbing so I could do the work.

Believe me you will not find any cheaper Urethane for less than 300 Dollars anywhere unless someone decides to make you a deal. Although there are 2 more ways but they are less perstique: 1.) you could use Acrylic Paint to go over the weblines like the ones that Spidertim.com sells his suits with Acrylic Paint on the weblines. 2.) You could buy these really cheap Mettalic Markers that are really well to use to go over the printed webbing lines as well as the Spiders.... you could buy these markers at a office depot or office max for a pack of 5 for $10.00.

By the way people I will show you guys a demonstration on what I did with my spiders on my suits that I bought from Brad) You guys will be amazed at how the colors actually came out on the Spiders. I will be posting some photos of my Black Symbiote Spidey4Fun Suit and my Red/Blue Spidey4Fun Suit within the next week or 2 the latest.

 

[spidey2001]

doh

 

[spidey2001]

There is a way to make accurate spiderman webbing for next to nothing too.

it will take these tings though...

Time

Dedication

A spiderman pattern.

A steady hand

And some pre-knowledge and confidence.

I estimate it to cost around $100 + and a months work.

At the end of it you should have a webbing mold which you could cast from. The webs obviously won't look as good as cnc machined webs. but they're the next big step.

In regards to the pattern, A direct print is the best looking as fourth providing it matches the fabric/printer/methods used from the film. There are many direct digital printers out there that use different inks/ printers thus giving different varying results.

As for Yuris print it is not so much the qaulity of the farbcis and printers used but the pattern itself. It is not one of the high high quality spiderman patterns floating in this forum. I think yuris print is pretty much comparable to the direct print method as his colours are bold and stand out which is all you really want in this game.

There are some pattern CD patterns floating around ebay with the pattern on it, I have also come across a free pattern (i wonder how that came about guys?hmmm) on another forum, you might wana check my post as i haven't the link for it anymore.

If you wanna build webbing this is the first step to it. Please im if your interested in this method.

 

[okspider]

At the end of it you should have a webbing mold which you could cast from. The webs obviously won't look as good as cnc machined webs. but they're the next big step.

As for Yuris print it is not so much the qaulity of the farbcis and printers used but the pattern itself. It is not one of the high high quality spiderman patterns floating in this forum. I think yuris print is pretty much comparable to the direct print method as his colours are bold and stand out which is all you really want in this game.

Thanks for the info spidey2001, I had a cd with the patterns laying around somewhere. Hopeful I can find it. I bought it a few years back when I first wanted to get a suit. I do have a friend that runs some type of cnc machine. I can check with him about making the mold. I think it would probably be free or just the cost of the metal.

I'm leaning toward yuri but what is the difference between a high quality print and a direct print?

 

[SpideyForPrez]

Posted my suit on ebay today. 3d webs allaboutme print completed. PM me if you are interested. Comes with spidey4fun lenses

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280271619793&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018

Hey everyone, I just wanted to ask the people in here if they know anything about the guy who posted this link to an Ebay spidey costume. I'm NOT trying to call him out or be suspicious of him but I'm interested in his suit and I've been ripped off on ebay before.

So as far as anybody in here knows, this guy is legit right? Someone who's posted in here many times about making his suit/etc. Cause I know that fake Spidey costume auctions get posted every now and then.

Thanks for any help!

 

[spidey2001]

Thanks for the info spidey2001, I had a cd with the patterns laying around somewhere. Hopeful I can find it. I bought it a few years back when I first wanted to get a suit. I do have a friend that runs some type of cnc machine. I can check with him about making the mold. I think it would probably be free or just the cost of the metal.

I'm leaning toward yuri but what is the difference between a high quality print and a direct print?

Look, go with what ever you appreciate first. There is though.. a major difference in methods and looks that's why... For the many costumes produced for spiderman 3 the producers got away with using a very easy to make (compared to silk screening) digital prints, something they stemmed away from using before due to quality issues. This time round the technology was available and saved them half the budget of the film which i guess they spent on giving Tobey maguire dancing lessons he required towards the end of the 3rd film :S

There are a few people dealing with these prints, but no one so far has nailed it in terms of.

Erm. Yuri's pattern is very old lets say in terms of what the costume makers on this forum are now using... I say good on to yuri for sticking by his artwork and not changing.

BTW.. think seriously about milling you own webs, Machineing them alone takes a heck of lot of clever engerneering. Let alone the CAD work. involved.

 

[spidey2001]

Hey everyone, I just wanted to ask the people in here if they know anything about the guy who posted this link to an Ebay spidey costume. I'm NOT trying to call him out or be suspicious of him but I'm interested in his suit and I've been ripped off on ebay before.

So as far as anybody in here knows, this guy is legit right? Someone who's posted in here many times about making his suit/etc. Cause I know that fake Spidey costume auctions get posted every now and then.

Thanks for any help!

I don't think we keep tabs on potential spiderman costume ripper offers from ebay I'm afraid. He has 170+ feedback though, what more could you want.. Good L.

 

[SpidermanC]

Does anyone have a editable photoshop pattern of the red\blue spiderman costume for sale? If so message me.

 

[wakekid87]

I don't think we keep tabs on potential spiderman costume ripper offers from ebay I'm afraid. He has 170+ feedback though, what more could you want.. Good L.

thanks spidey 2001. I 'am not looking to rip anyone off, just trying to find my suit a good home for what it cost to put it together basically.

 

[Spiderman0884]

Hey guys... im just curious to see who is selling this suit on Ebay $600 as a starting bid but can also purchase the suit for $600 without the bidding for a Spiderman 2 or 3 Replica suit wondering if the suit if fully sewn and who is selling it...
SPIDERMAN 3 MOVIE COSTUME REPLICA - eBay (item 160289218522 end time Oct-12-08
if you guys find out let me know thanks guys that would help alot. By the way im also wondering if these kind of suits are coming from SpideyPlanet.com because I know that seller sells Spiders Webbing Prints and you have to put it yourself but if you have them put it for you I believe the price comes out to 1500-2000 price range but for $600 on Ebay??

 

[eledoremassis02]

hahah my mom showed a few of the other teacher at work me in the spiderman costume...and now they want me to come in on Halloween to meet the Special Ed students.

 

[Crimson Spider]

is spidey crying because there are no buildings to swing from????

 

[eledoremassis02]

Nah, he's crying because he is lost and can't ask strangers for a ride...

guess it's be more heroic if was the building theory lol.

 

[DreamFusion]

hilarious pic! Should get one of Spidey tagging along on top of a bus or taxi to put a happy ending to this story. lol

 

[Sparkus]

Hey guys... im just curious to see who is selling this suit on Ebay $600 as a starting bid but can also purchase the suit for $600 without the bidding for a Spiderman 2 or 3 Replica suit wondering if the suit if fully sewn and who is selling it...
SPIDERMAN 3 MOVIE COSTUME REPLICA - eBay (item 160289218522 end time Oct-12-08
if you guys find out let me know thanks guys that would help alot. By the way im also wondering if these kind of suits are coming from SpideyPlanet.com because I know that seller sells Spiders Webbing Prints and you have to put it yourself but if you have them put it for you I believe the price comes out to 1500-2000 price range but for $600 on Ebay??

Yeah that suit looks really NICE. Why is the print so clean...
-Urethane webbing
-Face shell mask with movable jaw
- urethane chest and back spiders...

and its cheaper than just the plain suit from all the sellers on here... what in the world...

 

[DreamFusion]

You know what they say, "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.."

I bet he made a little typo on looking to get just $600.

 

[SpidermanC]

It's a fake auction, powered by an stolen account. That's one of Ollie's suits, using his old pictures. They price the suit low so they get you to 'buy it now' before the auction is canceled.