Man arrested for singing "Spiderpig" to police

[04nbod]

and suppose he shot him. Would that still be a mere overstep of authority?

Perthshire is in scotland. Regular UK officers don't carry guns and no one in the special firearms unit can 'shoot to kill' by law. (accidents happen)

 

[lou2099]

I dont get it.
I could say "what if" the suspect tried to attack the officers.
I could say "what if" spider-pig showed up to save the day.

I dont understand why you are even using this.

What are you saying "exists in everyone"? I said people are good and bad and police are not exempt from that.


And when you say "it has happened before" are you saying police have shot a person for pissing them off?
Im not saying that has never happened, but I would say with plenty of confidence that would be an anomaly.

I think it's more an anomaly that you're arguing a "what if" situation.

 

[PemLam]

Perthshire is in scotland. Regular UK officers don't carry guns and no one in the special firearms unit can 'shoot to kill' by law. (accidents happen)

*Using Lou's logic* BUT...what if the officer was secretly concealing a gun he'd illegally purchased from some Al Qaeda sympathizer during one of there covert meetings , then got really pissed at the guy for singing the tune so badly ....and THEN shot him. Would that still be a "mere overstep of authority"? *Remember...only Lou-logic applies!*

 

[mrvlknight21]

I think it's more an anomaly that you're arguing a "what if" situation.

Good explanation. Wow, just wow.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Am I the only one who noticed that the police had already arrested him for battery, and that he sang the Spiderpig song while he was already in the police van? Call me crazy, but maybe the fight that got him arrested in the first place is what got him the 3 months. Because I don't know much about the British legal system, but I reckon if it's anything like the US legal system, then it's the courts instead of the police who decide what sentence to pass down on criminals.


Let's hear it for the misleading article, folks.

He got 8 months for the battery charges, the 3 months were for "insulting an officer" which apparently including being annoying as hell. The article very well may be misleading, but it may also be that the cop is a jack-ass.

I'm going to vote against the cop.

 

[Manic]

He got 8 months for the battery charges, the 3 months were for "insulting an officer" which apparently including being annoying as hell. The article very well may be misleading, but it may also be that the cop is a jack-ass.

I'm going to vote against the cop.

....no. That's not what it says. On July 25th, he was arrested by police for getting involved in a fight in Blairgowrie. It was when he was already in the police van that he sang "Spiderpig" and called an officer "ginger." He was sentenced to 3 months in jail for that incident. The article makes it sound like he got 3 months for the insult, but the article sorta glazes over the fact that he was already arrested for battery when he annoyed the cops.

The 8 months were for assaulting an officer on November 2nd, after he'd already served his 3-month sentence. There was no "insulting an officer" charge.

I'd also like to remind you that the police don't pass down sentences on criminals. The courts do that. Even if a cop was being a jackass and arrested someone for calling him a pig, you'd be hard pressed to find a judge who'd give someone 3 months in jail for it.

 

[moraldeficiency]

man, you guys took a perfectly fun thread and made it this abomination. *begins loading gun while singing spider-pig song*

 

[Ace of Knaves]

He got 8 months for the battery charges, the 3 months were for "insulting an officer" which apparently including being annoying as hell. The article very well may be misleading, but it may also be that the cop is a jack-ass.

I'm going to vote against the cop.

He wasn't just being annoying, he was calling them pigs to their faces, but in the form of "spiderpig"!!! Some old bill nick ya for saying pig or whatever.

Me and my mates sing this to the police "Old bill suck their old girls old boy" It's well funny.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Well, this thread is at least mediocre in a consistent way.

At least it's not one of those stupid depressing news story threads that pop up in the lounge every other hour

 

[Majic Walrus]

He wasn't just being annoying, he was calling them pigs to their faces, but in the form of "spiderpig"!!! Some old bill nick ya for saying pig or whatever.

Me and my mates sing this to the police "Old bill suck their old girls old boy" It's well funny.

So? I don't see how you should be arrested for saying "**** you you ****ing piece of **** ****face cop." straight to a cop's face. I mean yeah, it's rude as hell and totally uncalled for, but sometimes people are mean. You can't arrest people for being mean.

When I was a customer service supervisor I got called a lot worse and no one was ever arrested.

 

[Majic Walrus]

....no. That's not what it says. On July 25th, he was arrested by police for getting involved in a fight in Blairgowrie. It was when he was already in the police van that he sang "Spiderpig" and called an officer "ginger." He was sentenced to 3 months in jail for that incident. The article makes it sound like he got 3 months for the insult, but the article sorta glazes over the fact that he was already arrested for battery when he annoyed the cops.

The 8 months were for assaulting an officer on November 2nd, after he'd already served his 3-month sentence. There was no "insulting an officer" charge.

That's really not what it says... It says:

"A man has been jailed for breaching the peace by singing Spiderpig from The Simpsons Movie at police officers. David Mullen was sentenced to three months for the incident and calling an officer "ginger" in a police van."

I'm not saying that the article might not be misleading or all-out incorrect but we're arguing from the assumption the the article is factual. The first line says that he was jailed for "breaching the peace by singing Spiderpig". It doesn't say why he was arrested or where he was but it does say very specifically why he was jailed.

If he was jailed for breaching the peace. Inside of a cop car. The only peace he breached was the cops peace.

I'd also like to remind you that the police don't pass down sentences on criminals. The courts do that. Even if a cop was being a jackass and arrested someone for calling him a pig, you'd be hard pressed to find a judge who'd give someone 3 months in jail for it.

Why because cops can be corrupt but judges can't be? I'm not exactly sure how the judicial system in the UK works, but it doesn't matter. Putting someone through the hassles of being charged, tried, and possibly convicted for something as trivial as "pissing a cop off" is just plain stupid and wasteful.

Imagine what the judge, cops, and courthouse workers could have acomplished if they weren't wasting their time on some loser punk who was being rude.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Only the UK and it's outlying territories could bring you a story this...weird.

 

[PemLam]

It's obvious that what these dastardly good-for-nothing cops are the worst types of criminals. They should be shackled in the public square, repeatedly flogged by passers-by and then forcibly removed from the country by black-clothed, masked government agents.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

It's obvious that what these dastardly good-for-nothing cops are the worst types of criminals. They should be shackled in the public square, repeatedly flogged by passers-by and then forcibly removed from the country by black-clothed, masked government agents.

Or be subjected to that guy's singing.

 

[PemLam]

While be subjected to that guy's singing.

Fixed! t:

 

[Majic Walrus]

It's obvious that what these dastardly good-for-nothing cops are the worst types of criminals. They should be shackled in the public square, repeatedly flogged by passers-by and then forcibly removed from the country by black-clothed, masked government agents.

They should be held accountable and subject to disciplnary action.

 

[PemLam]

They should be held accountable and subject to disciplnary action.

I agree 100%...they should be made to apologize profusely to the Desk Sgt for wasting his time in bringing this person in when they simply should have provided a little "wall to wall counseling" and left him on the corner somewhere.

 

[jaguarr]

What kind of a cop wants to waste his time doing the paperwork for something as insipid as this?

jag

 

[ShadowBoxing]

What kind of a cop wants to waste his time doing the paperwork for something as insipid as this?

jag

"...it was at that point that the man in question began singing 'Spiderpig'".

 

[PemLam]

What kind of a cop wants to waste his time doing the paperwork for something as insipid as this?

jag

None of them...which is why their punishment should be that they apologize for wasting the Desk Sergeant's time.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

What kind of a cop wants to waste his time doing the paperwork for something as insipid as this?

jag

That's all British pigs do, they would rather just fill out forms all day than get up off their arse and do real police work.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I agree 100%...they should be made to apologize profusely to the Desk Sgt for wasting his time in bringing this person in when they simply should have provided a little "wall to wall counseling" and left him on the corner somewhere.

Well that much is true as well. The whole ordeal was obviously a big waste of time. If I had an employee that wasted their time on something so insignificant I'd definitely have a consultation with them. It's such a huge waste.

 

[jaguarr]

That's all British pigs do, they would rather just fill out forms all day than get up off their arse and do real police work.

Shut it, ya dirty chav!

jag

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Shut it, ya dirty chav!

jag

Chav? I wear Saville Row suits everywhere i go.

 

[Manic]

That's really not what it says... It says:

"A man has been jailed for breaching the peace by singing Spiderpig from The Simpsons Movie at police officers. David Mullen was sentenced to three months for the incident and calling an officer "ginger" in a police van."

I'm not saying that the article might not be misleading or all-out incorrect but we're arguing from the assumption the the article is factual. The first line says that he was jailed for "breaching the peace by singing Spiderpig". It doesn't say why he was arrested or where he was but it does say very specifically why he was jailed.

If he was jailed for breaching the peace. Inside of a cop car. The only peace he breached was the cops peace.

I present the "why" and "where"...

"Mullen sang the song to officers on 25 July while sitting in the back of a police van after being involved in a fight in Blairgowrie, Perthshire."

I have a really really hard time believing the police arrested a man for getting involved in a fight, but the man did time in jail for something a lot more trivial. I mean, why wasn't a sentence passed down for the fight he got arrested for? If the cops and judges really were corrupt and conspiring to put this man away for singing "Spiderpig," you'd think they'd have the wits to sentence him to those 3 months in jail for the fight, if only to cover their own asses. But no, this seedy conglomeration of easily annoyed policemen and marionette justices were stupid enough to abuse their power and not try to hide it at all.

On the other hand, maybe (just maybe) the instance of "breaching the peace" was when the man got involved in a fight that the police had to break up, and the person who wrote the article manipulated the facts for the sake of having a more sensational story.