Man of steel 2 possible plot and villians

Let's see.

- Jimmy Olsen debuts at the Daily Planet as an aspiring reporter/photographer who's a fan of Lois Lane, and is a big believer in Superman. He argues that Superman's a hero, while Steve Lombard argues the opposite.

- The military and government interrogate Superman for details about the Kryptonians.

- Lex Luthor rebuilds Metropolis and begins a campaign to turn the public against Superman drive him away. Using the information Superman provides from the interrogation above, he duplicates the atmosphere of the planet Krypton, but turns it more lethal and poisonous to use as a weapon against Superman. In other words...Lex created Kryptonite.

- The alien attack spurs Washington to start a plan to create metahumans, headed by Paul Cadmus of Cadmus Labs, who partners with LexCorp. Together, creations such as Metallo and Parasite are born.

- Martha Kent gets sick and dies. Kidding. :p

- Lois helps Clark covers his identity and they start their relationship.

- Superman begins building his Fortress of Solitude.

- Superman discovers new abilities such as super breath, telescopic vision, microscopic vision, infrared vision.
interesting! some nice ideas indeed.
so what would the climate of the story be?
 
I would do the Intergang and Darkseid story, how Darkseid commissions Manheim to get the anti-life equation. Also introduce the Eradicator, he can be in storage on the scout ship. I think he's an awesome character and I'd actually use him to help Supes construct the FOS, but more importantly....explore Superman's decisions in MOS to side with the Earth over Zod and the Kryptonians, maybe have Superman question if he made the right call and if he can be loyal to a planet that might not be loyal to him.

Plenty of fighting to be done here as well. Kalibak, perhaps Grayven, and then finally Darkseid.

I'd also intertwine some other characters. I'd like to see Cat Grant as a possible love interest for Clark Kent. And I would end it with the launch of Cadmus and introduce Amanda Waller and Lex Luthor, as well as drop some hints towards the Legion of Doom for a possible JLA movie. LOD has always been the best Justice League villain to me.
 
I would do the Intergang and Darkseid story, how Darkseid commissions Manheim to get the anti-life equation. Also introduce the Eradicator, he can be in storage on the scout ship. I think he's an awesome character and I'd actually use him to help Supes construct the FOS, but more importantly....explore Superman's decisions in MOS to side with the Earth over Zod and the Kryptonians, maybe have Superman question if he made the right call and if he can be loyal to a planet that might not be loyal to him.

Plenty of fighting to be done here as well. Kalibak, perhaps Grayven, and then finally Darkseid.

I'd also intertwine some other characters. I'd like to see Cat Grant as a possible love interest for Clark Kent. And I would end it with the launch of Cadmus and introduce Amanda Waller and Lex Luthor, as well as drop some hints towards the Legion of Doom for a possible JLA movie. LOD has always been the best Justice League villain to me.
you have gone too far. lol
 
- Superman discovers new abilities such as super breath, telescopic vision, microscopic vision, infrared vision.

Pretty sure he's already got that to some degree: my belief when Jor-El and Kal are inside the Black Zero and Kal punches that hole in the side then Jor-El says "Look" I'm pretty confident that Kal sees the escape pod (telescopic) as well as Lois inside (X-ray).

Seems plausible, right?
 
Hang on didn't Superman destroy the scout ship?
 
So it's crashed twice on Earth now, still could be in somewhat usable form but Kal's attack on the inside severed the "control chair" directly (that's why we see Zod basically fall out of it) and in the process also destroy the Genesis Chamber and the potential for makin' more Kryptonians, at least to some degree.

Doesn't mean it's completely utterly totally destroyed by that point - Kal might easily be able to just take it back up north or whatever which is most likely what happened in those moments we don't see between the death of Zod in the "Grand Central Station" replica to the moment we see the General's car driving on the communications site.

A lot of stuff happens that we simply don't get to see but that doesn't mean it didn't happen (like everyone thinking Kal just says "Ok, bad guys are gone, I'm outta here" and leaving all that damage for the humans to clean up, I mean really), blame it on pacing if you want, makes no difference to me.

inb4 the "bad writing" flood once again
 
So it's crashed twice on Earth now, still could be in somewhat usable form but Kal's attack on the inside severed the "control chair" directly (that's why we see Zod basically fall out of it) and in the process also destroy the Genesis Chamber and the potential for makin' more Kryptonians, at least to some degree.

Doesn't mean it's completely utterly totally destroyed by that point - Kal might easily be able to just take it back up north or whatever which is most likely what happened in those moments we don't see between the death of Zod in the "Grand Central Station" replica to the moment we see the General's car driving on the communications site.

A lot of stuff happens that we simply don't get to see but that doesn't mean it didn't happen (like everyone thinking Kal just says "Ok, bad guys are gone, I'm outta here" and leaving all that damage for the humans to clean up, I mean really), blame it on pacing if you want, makes no difference to me.

inb4 the "bad writing" flood once again

Relocating the scout ship would've been peripheral to the main plot, which was drawing to a close. Fine to leave it out.
 
Relocating the scout ship would've been peripheral to the main plot, which was drawing to a close. Fine to leave it out.

Of course, that's a given, but there's no reason to think that it's just gone up in a puff of smoke and will never be featured again in potential future movies.

Kal does mention he's got someplace to "hang his cape..." ;)
 
Well we know that he basically put it out of action with that amazing Krypton had its chance (or was it day? I forget but anyway) moment. I'd say its pretty much out of action now.
 
Of course, that's a given, but there's no reason to think that it's just gone up in a puff of smoke and will never be featured again in potential future movies.

Kal does mention he's got someplace to "hang his cape..." ;)

Yeah but he could just mean his apartment
 
My thinking at this point is along these lines:

- the scout ship is pulled from Metropolis by Kal and used someplace else on the planet as the traditionally known "Fortress of Solitude" and will have some screen time in the next movie

- Lex Luthor will be featured quite prominently in the next movie (since Snyder has stated the plan is another Superman movie and then work on a Justice League flick bringing everyone together). I'd hazard to guess that LexCorp is responsible for a lot of rebuilding from the Metropolis battle in MoS (and a great majority of the cleanup if not all of it done by Kal himself so that he's confident that no Kryptonian tech falls into human hands)

- somewhere down the line some item(s) is/are gathered up by LexCorp personnel during some stage of the cleanup and rebuilding of Metropolis and Lex gets involved directly on research and exploitation of the item(s)

- and of course Brainiac will more than likely be brought into things at some point, it could be just as a hint towards a villain for the next movie after that one, or they could find some way to bring it/him directly into the next movie, not too sure on that one (not a big "Brainiac" on the Brainiac character, go figure)

We've got a long way to go...
 
Darkseid should, at most, have a cameo appearance at the end of MoS to have him be the main antagonist for the Justice League. I'm not sure about having Darkseid as the main villain for MoS 3. Darkseid is like the Thanos of DC, you need to save your big gun for big occasions like the Justice League.
 
This is pretty damned awesome if this works out since I had been thinking this actor would be, well, AWESOME as Lex Luthor:

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/co...yder-wants-mark-strong-lex-luthor-man-steel-2

Ever since I saw MoS on the day of release I've been thinking about someone to play Lex and for all the ones I ran through, I remembered seeing Mark Strong in "Day of the Falcon" and several other movies lately that I've checked out and that's who I myself would try to get into that role.

I think he can/could do a most excellent job.
 
Bring back Faora. Turn her into Metallo. Have her team up with Lex.

That'd be an effed up twist: Faora returns, appears normal for the longest time, until she fights it out with Superman, is caught in an explosion, and walks out looking something like this:

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It'd make for a nice imaginary one-shot story at least. :cwink:
 
- Superman discovers new abilities such as super breath, telescopic vision, microscopic vision, infrared vision.

Made a post earlier (#129) about that telescopic vision and pointed out he most likely used it to see Lois in the escape pod but then I realized he does use it in MoS directly:

The moment Martha calls him outside while he's watching the football game and swigging down a cold one he steps out and looks up to what she's pointing at in the sky.

At that moment his vision zooms in on Zod's ship which is way way too far to be seen clearly - just looks like something bright in the sky from that distance. The zooming in effect even has a slight X-ray style wash over it as the zoom happens until the ship comes into relative focus.

So there's that power, confirmed.

NEXT!!! :D
 
Having the Kryptonian codex in his DNA has got to raise some ethical issues for Kal. Story potential there.
 
As far as new characters I'd like to see General Sam Lane, President Lex Luthor, Lt. John Corban/Metallo , and Jimmy Olsen. I'd also like to see Godfrey but as a role that's more in line of Mr.Reese and Daget from TDK Trilogy.

Not a major or supporting role, but a side character who kinda helps drive the story without being its focus. He's a political commentator who part of the those who see's Superman as a threat and supports Luthor's candidacy.
 
As far as new characters I'd like to see General Sam Lane, President Lex Luthor, Lt. John Corban/Metallo , and Jimmy Olsen.

Do people not know that instead of Jimmy Olsen we got the new improved version aka Jenny Olsen or something? :D
 
Do people not know that instead of Jimmy Olsen we got the new improved version aka Jenny Olsen or something? :D

She wasn't called Jenny Olsen the credits listed her simply as Jenny and a still from the film showed that her name on her press pass said Jenny Jurwich.

As far as new characters I'd like to see General Sam Lane, President Lex Luthor, Lt. John Corban/Metallo , and Jimmy Olsen. I'd also like to see Godfrey but as a role that's more in line of Mr.Reese and Daget from TDK Trilogy.

Not a major or supporting role, but a side character who kinda helps drive the story without being its focus. He's a political commentator who part of the those who see's Superman as a threat and supports Luthor's candidacy.

I'd be down for that :up:
 
Darkseid should, at most, have a cameo appearance at the end of MoS to have him be the main antagonist for the Justice League. I'm not sure about having Darkseid as the main villain for MoS 3. Darkseid is like the Thanos of DC, you need to save your big gun for big occasions like the Justice League.

But justice league might not happen, or it might not happen WELL.

I just want my Superman: TAS moment in film. :-)
 
Was just thinking about something (dangerous thing for me sometimes) and then I decided to make a post about it. Before I started this post I did several searches to see if it had been broached so far and I didn't find a single post about this so... I am probably not the first to think it but I might be the first to push it out for discussion, I don't know but whatever, here goes.

So Kal inserted the House of El command key into the scout ship, which activated a) the ship and uploaded Jor-El's consciousness into the ship's system and b) activated the distress beacon which of course Zod's crew detects and that's what brings them to Earth.

But I haven't seen anyone take that to the next step with respect to the next movie and the potential villain(s) so it's pretty obvious, at least to me, that the activation of the distress beacon isn't just for the sake of MoS and Zod's storyline such as it was - it's going to be the manner in which Brainiac becomes a character in the next movie.

It's perfectly logical if you think about it:

- Brainiac simply can't be dismissed because the character is just too integral to the Superman mythos, and even in spite of this rather massive reboot of said franchise, the already noted hints in MoS towards Brainiac's existence are there for a reason and not just fan service

- while we have no idea just how far away Zod's crew and ship were at the time they detected the distress beacon, that doesn't mean the signal isn't still traveling out there beyond the heavens and because we don't know precisely just how badly the scout ship was damaged when it crashed into Metropolis and whether or not the distress beacon is even functional anymore - it's a bit ironic I suppose since a scout ship crashing would obviously be a precise reason that such a beacon would be activated in the first place. In fact, it should be transmitting Zod's identifier if anything like that is in use for such a signal since his command key was in use during the crash - it wouldn't surprise me if Brainiac comes calling expecting to find Zod here along with his crew and then be amazed at finding Kal-El considering that according to the prequel comic the Sol system was never going to be someplace the ancestral Kryptonians were going to visit in the first place

- while I do believe that Lex Luthor will play a rather significant role in things, it would really need Brainiac to be a "no brainer" megahit in my opinon.

I just had a thought while typing that last sentence so I'm gonna be stream-of-consciousness here and just type out what's going on in my noggin right now:

MoS is understood by many (and even hinted at in the affirmative by Snyder and Goyer) as a "Superman Begins" style tale where we get backstory, basic character motivations, and so on. "Batman Begins" did effectively the same thing for the Batman trilogy/franchise, so there's the chance - albeit an off-the-wall one but it's there nonetheless - that perhaps Goyer and Snyder and whoever else might help out with the script/screenplay for the next movie will treat it as a more established tale like <tada> The Dark Knight which has a more established, mature, and capable Batman at work as he battles not one but two enemies: The Joker as well as the alter ego duo of Harvey Dent aka Two-Face. It seems entirely logical to me that if Goyer and whoever else assists writing the next movie that it would be a helluvalot more of a bang for the buck situation if we ended up having Superman fighting on two fronts: Lex Luthor and Brainiac.

Yah, it's a bit crazy and off on a tangent but I'm gonna remember making this post even if it gets deleted or tossed out someday so I can refer back to it about 2-2.5 years from now.

I feel confident about the Brainiac tie-in because of the distress beacon, that much I'm 99.999% sure of at this point, and I'm pretty confident as well about Lex Luthor being a big fixture also. Guess it'll remain to be seen just what happens.

David Goyer, are you listening? :D
 
Was just thinking about something (dangerous thing for me sometimes) and then I decided to make a post about it. Before I started this post I did several searches to see if it had been broached so far and I didn't find a single post about this so... I am probably not the first to think it but I might be the first to push it out for discussion, I don't know but whatever, here goes.

So Kal inserted the House of El command key into the scout ship, which activated a) the ship and uploaded Jor-El's consciousness into the ship's system and b) activated the distress beacon which of course Zod's crew detects and that's what brings them to Earth.

But I haven't seen anyone take that to the next step with respect to the next movie and the potential villain(s) so it's pretty obvious, at least to me, that the activation of the distress beacon isn't just for the sake of MoS and Zod's storyline such as it was - it's going to be the manner in which Brainiac becomes a character in the next movie.

It's perfectly logical if you think about it:

- Brainiac simply can't be dismissed because the character is just too integral to the Superman mythos, and even in spite of this rather massive reboot of said franchise, the already noted hints in MoS towards Brainiac's existence are there for a reason and not just fan service

- while we have no idea just how far away Zod's crew and ship were at the time they detected the distress beacon, that doesn't mean the signal isn't still traveling out there beyond the heavens and because we don't know precisely just how badly the scout ship was damaged when it crashed into Metropolis and whether or not the distress beacon is even functional anymore - it's a bit ironic I suppose since a scout ship crashing would obviously be a precise reason that such a beacon would be activated in the first place. In fact, it should be transmitting Zod's identifier if anything like that is in use for such a signal since his command key was in use during the crash - it wouldn't surprise me if Brainiac comes calling expecting to find Zod here along with his crew and then be amazed at finding Kal-El considering that according to the prequel comic the Sol system was never going to be someplace the ancestral Kryptonians were going to visit in the first place

- while I do believe that Lex Luthor will play a rather significant role in things, it would really need Brainiac to be a "no brainer" megahit in my opinon.

I just had a thought while typing that last sentence so I'm gonna be stream-of-consciousness here and just type out what's going on in my noggin right now:

MoS is understood by many (and even hinted at in the affirmative by Snyder and Goyer) as a "Superman Begins" style tale where we get backstory, basic character motivations, and so on. "Batman Begins" did effectively the same thing for the Batman trilogy/franchise, so there's the chance - albeit an off-the-wall one but it's there nonetheless - that perhaps Goyer and Snyder and whoever else might help out with the script/screenplay for the next movie will treat it as a more established tale like <tada> The Dark Knight which has a more established, mature, and capable Batman at work as he battles not one but two enemies: The Joker as well as the alter ego duo of Harvey Dent aka Two-Face. It seems entirely logical to me that if Goyer and whoever else assists writing the next movie that it would be a helluvalot more of a bang for the buck situation if we ended up having Superman fighting on two fronts: Lex Luthor and Brainiac.

Yah, it's a bit crazy and off on a tangent but I'm gonna remember making this post even if it gets deleted or tossed out someday so I can refer back to it about 2-2.5 years from now.

I feel confident about the Brainiac tie-in because of the distress beacon, that much I'm 99.999% sure of at this point, and I'm pretty confident as well about Lex Luthor being a big fixture also. Guess it'll remain to be seen just what happens.

David Goyer, are you listening? :D
approved! :D
i definitely rooting for a bigger and tougher challenge for superman.

but again it would be very complicated and sci fi. the simple minded critic may not be able to follow. :D
 
I still say the roll call of villains should look like this...

MOS2 - Darkseid, Intergang
MOS3 - Brainiac, Lex
WW - Cheetah
GL2 - Sinestro
AQ - Black Manta
Flash - Gorilla Grodd
JLA - Legion of Doom
 

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