Man of Steel vs. Pirates- who wins box office?

[Compi716]

Right now, Jack Sparrow maybe more popular than supes for the simple fact that he may be more likable, more entertaining and considered to be a poster child for sexy-hunk in the eyes of women of all ages across the globe not to mention society's views and perceptions of characters ficticious or not, pesistantly fluctuate, therefore, it is possible that sparrow may indeed be more popular than supes regardless of their respective current life spans.

True.

And that is one VERY long sentence.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

I'm pretty sure you were one of the many saps I schooled when trying to confront me about my opinions of the spidey movies a while ago.

No not really i don't visit the spidey boards and btw i'm not a sap.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Please. YOU ARE NOT A BOX OFFICE EXPERT. So stop pretending to be. I don't care how old you are, or what country you're from. You have missed on basically every single prediction you've posted on these boards. And then when sh** comes out the opposite of what you predicted, you flip flop and start making adjustments to your predictions, and then start saying how you were "right AGAIN! ZOMG!".

You're a joke.

Yes age or being from another contry shouldn't be a issue like some many people have told me when i try to say something to the kid. then they say oh he's only a kid and he's from another country. and i'm going so that's a excuse to use now?

 

[LastSunrise1981]

He could live to be 103 considering the advances in medicine, but I don't think he'll be playing Sparrow for 60 more years.

Haha, I'd pay to see Depp playing Sparrow at 103.

 

[The Riddler]

so did pirates make $100 million in 2 days?

i've seen varying reports.

 

[James"007"Bond]

No not really i don't visit the spidey boards and btw i'm not a sap.

Its not just in the spidey boards that people cry at me for not liking the spidey movies. Besides, all you do is cuompulsively post endless pics of Alba so yeah, you are a sap.

 

[Fanticon]

Also- please use the poll so we can see how the results come out.

I know this debate has been everywhere now. So, thought I would just put into one arena for fans to fight it out in. Who wins? Superman? Jack Sparrow? Time will only tell. Take your bets.

My opinion:

1. Superman Returns
2. Pirates

EW and Roeper predicted SR as the biggest blockbuster of the summer

Pirates 2, a sequel to a film that made around 300 mil. Sequels typically don't make more money than the first one- unless it looks alot better. This looks the same and just- the same.

As I said, still will see it. But, I see it as another sequel that doesn't beat the original so- 300 mil or under. These 400 mil predictions- not going to happen. A sequel doesn't make that much money.

Also, Batman Begins was Imax- but the theater didn't matter.

SR is IMAX 3D which provides for a better theater experience. "Flying" with the man of steel. Theater goers who go only once in a long while- obviously SR. Pirates is a rent for those only once in a great while theater goers. Both will bring in the same number of teen audiences or around the same number.

But, SR ranges from 8 year olds to 80 year old grandparents. Not to mention that there are ALOT more hardcore Supes fans than any other super hero who will go see it more than 10 times and even more than that!

POTC has one movie and a ride behind it, not that big of a fan core audience in comparison.

As said, I'll be seeing POTC twice or three times. So, I'm a fan. But, I'm more of a Supes fan. I want to see both do well. But, Supes is obvious #1 and Pirates is obvious #2. Both great, but Supes is super great!

The first Pirates drew audiences in because:
1. First of it's kind
2. Pirates movie in a long while
3. New pirates movie look

The sequel looks like a carbon copy of the original. Bringing nothing really new in. So, while it will be good- it won't be as good. I've read the book and while it's good- it's not great. The first one was original, the second is more of a "seen that already."

Question: To those who think it will be a hit, do you know alot about it- or just what you've seen in trailers?

Supes will get the better reviews. POTC is alright, but not great. Word of mouth will show this. Supes great. Pirates good- but, like any sequel- it's a sequel that doesn't bring anything really new to it and doesn't beat the original.

More teenage guys will go to Superman than Pirates of the Carribbean. I can state that as a 88% possible fact.

Girls- don't know what they think of Routh. But, the love story will bring a lot of girls in.

Kids- Superman pajamas, Superman toys, etc. - POC is disney, but Superman is Superman! I already see kids with Superman toys and kids pretending to be Superman. Holloween: Lots of kids will be Superman. Etc. Kids- Superman.


Teenage & young Girls- Our real and only threat.But, I don't know in this area yet. But- SMALLVILLE is more than likely to bring in alot of the teenage girl audience.

Adults & Grandparents- grew up with Superman

Thus, SR has the larger audience- and most of this audience is fans. Because, let's face it how many people do you know who aren't Supes fans because of one thing or another?

Age over fad and not great sequel. I've read the POTC2 book- not much too it, just average sequel, Good, not great. Don't seeing it getting phenomenal reviews, only great. Read the Supes book as well- way better story, classic is back- phenomenal reviews.

Pirates will kill pirates. Pun intended. It will still be #2, but pirates will not kill Supes- pun still intended.

Superman 3D Imax Experience will draw LOTS in and most likely be the way most theater viewers see Superman Returns.

Pirates 3 viewers (8) Supes 2 (12- Imax)

Pirates= 21
Supes= 24

That extra money adds up quickly. Thus, even if Pirates gets more viewers. Imax will definitely still make Supes- #1.

This summer you will believe that a man can fly!

I've said my piece, what's your opinion and take?

Please note that this board is NOT for bashing. But, to put down your thoughts on what movie will be #1. Both will be great, definitely in #1 and #2. Which will be #1?

I hate to keep going back to this...but even when I read this originally, I had wanted to say that I've never heard such a load of crap in my entire life. And I understand you admitted you were wrong...but look at what areas you were wrong in...not just numbers...but saying that women and teenage girls would like the love story in Superman...and that they'd find a new comer like Routh to be attractive enough to give in and go see it cuz he's cute? What are you on...what are you putting in your food? You're putting crap into your food aren't you, and you're feeding it to yourself...You actually think IMAX counts? For what? People are lucky if they can find an IMAX screen...and the reason studios are tracking those IMAX numbers and records...is because boxoffice allover is slumping...they want every penny, they don't care what theatre its in. Sequels can't do better than the originals?...what kind of statement is that? Matrix Reloaded...X2, Shrek 2....Shrek friggin' 2...and you said a sequel can't make 400m...Shrek 2 made 400+...I read everything you wrote in disbelief...DO SOME RESEARCH! And don't quit your day job.
One last free peice of advice...state your opinions and back them up with well thought out fact...but don't try to make us believe you are right...its insulting, especially now....and re-reading that entire thing...."To those who think it [POTC2] will be a hit, do you know a lot about it-or have you just seen the trailers?"
We've all been wrong on Boxoffice predictions before, we're just having fun, I mean I thought X3 was gonna be major...but after its second weekend...I knew it couldn't get passed 250m at that point and now its stuggling to reach 240m. Again I don't care that you were wrong in your predictions...but what you wrote was a flat out biased, uneducated ramble.

 

[Cinemaman]

You know what you need to do?

You need to officially shut the hell up. You sat here for the past two weeks and said that Pirates 2 would only make $90-100 million because, in your words "it was 150 minutes long". And yet, here you are spatting how you were right about something.



Please. YOU ARE NOT A BOX OFFICE EXPERT. So stop pretending to be. I don't care how old you are, or what country you're from. You have missed on basically every single prediction you've posted on these boards. And then when sh** comes out the opposite of what you predicted, you flip flop and start making adjustments to your predictions, and then start saying how you were "right AGAIN! ZOMG!".

You're a joke.

And you know who yoy are?

You are not even person

You are not even human

 

[Cmill216]

And you know who yoy are?

You are not even person

You are not even human

 

[Marvel Man]

No competition here... Pirates lol

 

[Cinemaman]

Yes age or being from another contry shouldn't be a issue like some many people have told me when i try to say something to the kid. then they say oh he's only a kid and he's from another country. and i'm going so that's a excuse to use now?

JAL you was wrong in thread Batman vs. FF.

I am honest with ppl, and I said even that I was wrong with my forecast.

But ppl like you cant understand what they are talking about sometimes.

You sound like a kid.

Sorry, but I say what I think about you.

And I cant understand man, who is 26 and is FANATIC of Jessica Alba and who can love even real crap, if Alba is there.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I can see the headlines now, "Pirates makes Superman walk the plank."

 

[Fanticon]

Kevin,
What is that avatar from
?

 

[Darth Elektra]

so did pirates make $100 million in 2 days?

i've seen varying reports.

Here it is for you:

Friday:$55,549,000
Saturday:$44,659,000
Sunday:$31,820,000

 

[The Apatow Crew]

JAL you was wrong in thread Batman vs. FF.

I was Wrong about what?

 

[Cinemaman]

I was Wrong about what?

About everything, especially in that argue with me.

I am trying to ignore you, because even if you are older than I am, you sound like kid.

I haven't said anything bad about you, but now I can say. Every day, in different threads. you says how you hate me, or maybe you just says that I am just a kid.

But look at yourself, aren't you kid?

 

[Matt]

You know what you need to do?

You need to officially shut the hell up. You sat here for the past two weeks and said that Pirates 2 would only make $90-100 million because, in your words "it was 150 minutes long". And yet, here you are spatting how you were right about something.



Please. YOU ARE NOT A BOX OFFICE EXPERT. So stop pretending to be. I don't care how old you are, or what country you're from. You have missed on basically every single prediction you've posted on these boards. And then when sh** comes out the opposite of what you predicted, you flip flop and start making adjustments to your predictions, and then start saying how you were "right AGAIN! ZOMG!".

You're a joke.

Finally, someone said it

 

[The Apatow Crew]

About everything, especially in that argue with me.

I am trying to ignore you, because even if you are older than I am, you sound like kid.

I haven't said anything bad about you, but now I can say. Every day, in different threads. you says how you hate me, or maybe you just says that I am just a kid.

But look at yourself, aren't you kid?

No you said i said something in that thread. what did i say that was wrong? I didn't say FF was better than BB at all. so please tell me what the hell i was wrong about?
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and just for the record i'm only 25 not 26.

 

[Cinemaman]

No you said i said something in that thread. what did i say that was wrong? I didn't say FF was better than BB at all. so please tell me what the hell i was wrong about?
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and just for the record i'm only 25 not 26.

There was argue and you said something like "You are jerk" to all, who was that day in that thread, didn't you?

I have proof of this:

To Quote Tom Cruise After Getting Squited by a Microphone/Water Gun

"Your a Jerk"

that goes for all of you.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233132&page=36

 

[The Apatow Crew]

That's what your talking about?!

Oh please! that's nothing!

*laughs*

 

[Cinemaman]

That's what your talking about?!

Oh please! that's nothing!

*laughs*

Look, you are really nice person and sometimes you are really good in talking.

But I dont like when ppl says something bad about me, something just like "he is just a kid".

I have never said anything bad about you before this day.

I just want to break this hatred between us.

There was one more argue about SR box office. I was wrong, just like you were not right in that argue, in BB vs. FF thread.

And I want you to understand this.

I have never said anything bad about other people, because I always try to be kind person.

I made my predictions for next year with more logical aspect.

But it doesn't matter.

All what I want I have already said to you.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Kevin,
What is that avatar from
?

It says in my signature.

 

[DACrowe]

So yea....how aaobut that box office. Well I am astounded. I always thought POTC2 was going to blow SR out of the water and break $100 million, I even thought it was possible to break Spidey's record....but I am shocked by $130 million +, no one predicts numbers well. I find it funny people are fighting about how close poeple are to numbers. Who cares?

I mean this doesn't matter to us anyway, I just like to keep an eye on it and since following box office for the last 4 or 5 years I have an idea how the bo moves, but in no way am I qualified to give out percise daily numbers every day for movies a year in advance or even a week. I say leave wide margins because we are ameteurs and don't know. I knew Pirates was going to be bigger than SR because of the hype factor on this thread but I did not try and say which would make what on every single day for the first week or two.

That is why people get annoyed....at certain posters. But I'm too mellow to care either way though.

 

[Fanticon]

oh...i see it now...thanks.

 

[Cinemaman]

Well, SR made $141m, so I am sure it will make more than $200m, what is more than it's budget $204m.

I think in total it will get to $220m