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March 2010 Solicitations

With the exception of the Morlock story, I liked him as well. Id rather he stayed on as writer or at least cowriter with Fraction than leaving Fraction to pen the title himself. Hopefully Second Coming will lead to a new creative team

Fraction says that he's going to focus on a much smaller cast as the issues progress. I hope he will, I agree that his writing is much stronger when a smaller cast is involved. Maybe I'm wrong in saying that he's using so many characters to give a sense of how diminished the mutant race is, maybe he does just like having a ton of characters to throw in every now and again, but I still think he's generally pushed this title into a great new direction.

Personally, I found Brubaker's run to be slow going, drawn out, and even boring in some places, whereas Fraction's - while admittedly flawed - has always entertained me in some way or another.
 
If Jean is coming back, I say let Wolverine get the girl this time. It is inevitable that they will do a love triangle story between Jean/Scott/Emma, but I think Scott should tell Jean that he loves her and always will, but that he is In Love with Emma. Showing that Scott has moved on and so he doesn't have to take 2 steps backwards just because Jean's returning. This would free Jean up and since Logan is single, things would work out great. Everybody would be happy.
 
No, but that's not what I meant; I meant that the O5 aren't like the original seven JLA or or the original Avengers or whatever; they've never been held up as a shining example that set the bar and defined what the team was to successor members. With good reason, because that lineup wasn't popular, and the characters replacing them were mostly older than the original members.
The founding Avengers weren't particularly popular until just recently, either. And now it looks like Siege is priming to rebuild the Avengers franchise around those selfsame characters who proved relatively unpopular before Disassembled: Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye, Pym, et al. They formed the core of the Avengers for a long time, but the book didn't sell particularly well for a long time. Then as soon as Wolverine and Spider-Man came along, the popularity of the Avengers shot up. The current idea at Marvel seems to be to take long-standing franchises, break them down, rebuild them around already popular characters, and then return the franchises' original mainstays to the fold. The original X-Men, while not necessarily anchors of the franchise outside of Scott and Jean, have always been mainstays on the team.
 
It makes less sense to me. One of the main purposes of deciMation was to limit the amount of mutants in the Marvel Universe. Things kinda got out of hand in the 90s with so many characters and X-men spinoff titles. There are less mutants now, yet MORE are crammed into the books than ever before. The X-men now have 100+ members. Thats completely ridiculous and not really feasible. The title consists of Scott/Emma and random cameos of the month. Then you have Legacy which is no longer a team book but a disguised solo series. Why have so many characters around if the vast majoirty of them arent even going to get any focus?
I meant cause all the mutants are on an island together it's not like each character has their own plot. there aren't many books to show the other X characters right now unless they're in said book.
 
If Jean does come back, I'd like to see her get away from the X-Men for a while and incorporate her into another title. She's been with the X-Men since day one and since Scott has been with Emma for the past 5 years you can work that angle. Try something different and put her in Avengers or something...it worked for Beast.
 
If Jean is coming back, I say let Wolverine get the girl this time. It is inevitable that they will do a love triangle story between Jean/Scott/Emma, but I think Scott should tell Jean that he loves her and always will, but that he is In Love with Emma. Showing that Scott has moved on and so he doesn't have to take 2 steps backwards just because Jean's returning. This would free Jean up and since Logan is single, things would work out great. Everybody would be happy.

I don't know why so many people say that it's inevitable that they HAVE to have a love triangle. Scott has moved on with Emma, and hell, Jean is the one who helped push him into it! They've both gotten on with their lives and it would just be forced to automatically go back into that territory.
 
PLEASE no more love triangles. And hooking up Jean with Logan would be just the same, besides
I've got this funny feeling that Wolverine is going to be one of the ones killed in SIEGE.
That's just my guess though.
 
PLEASE no more love triangles. And hooking up Jean with Logan would be just the same, besides
I've got this funny feeling that Wolverine is going to be one of the ones killed in SIEGE.
That's just my guess though.
Wolverine's not going to be in Siege. Bendis said he'll be watching the events depicted from Utopia with the X-Men.
 
Because the Avengers were so helpful when Osborn attacked the X-Men.:o
 
I'm sure Cyclops would've told them to go home anyway. Guy's been a real *****e lately.
 
It might be interesting if while Scott was going for Frost, Jean went for Warren, since he used to flirt with her like crazy when they were kids. He's certainly angsty enough after all his Apocalypse/Metal Wing crap, and I'm sure Scott wouldn't disapprove of Warren as much as he would for, say, Wolverine. But, I doubt that would happen.

As usual, more solicits mean another round of checkpoint style complaining and ranting! Do be warned!

- Anyone who reads NEW ULTIMATES ("new" is one of the most overused title add-on's, BTW) written by Loeb and, after ULTIMATES 3 and ULTIMATUM doesn't go in expecting to read the worst jibberish that can possibly be written in modern day comic books, then you're very, very gullible or have a very short memory. If you're in the mood for a well drawn train-wreck, like a JERSEY SHORE for comic books, then it'll be a hit.

- I still find it hilarious in an odd way that ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN a few years after I ditched it has become a de-facto Team Book, with Iceman, Human Torch, Shadowcat and Spider-Woman all but living with Peter. I imagine they bail his "tuchus" out a lot.

- DEADPOOL is now in 4 solo books a month, not counting his HANDBOOK, which I SO will be getting, because I am a Handbook nerd. Deadpool's sales have actually remained consistent for 2-3 titles, but Marvel is starting to overwhelm the market with him, as everyone with eyes and memory knew they would. Rather than maintain the slow build with his bubble of popularity, they choose to inflate it until it bursts. And this is a company that allows stories criticizing Wall Streeters who do that same thing, only a larger scale? Oh, well. Enjoy the fame while it lasts, Wade. You'll need years to rest like Ghost Rider, Venom, and Punisher did any time now.

- Not to be undone, WOLVERINE is still in about 5-6 titles a month, with a few of them being solo's and naturally Iron Man will be all over again.

- Unsure what the point is of X-FACTOR FOREVER. It appears to be a flashback tale featuring the original X-Factor, who were basically just the "founding five" X-Men until the Peter David era. It seems set in the late 80's (or very early 90's, like 1990-1991) when Warren first became Archangel and Cyclops hadn't thrown his son Nathan (which he had with Jean's clone, Maddie, who he married) into the future yet. Marvel seriously cannot expect large sales for a story set in a continuity that was maybe 20 years prior; if it sells above X-MEN FIRST CLASS all the way through, that might be an accomplishment. Still, I liked Panosian's art in AGENTS OF ATLAS and Louise Simonson has had some great tales in her heyday, so I might try it. The designs are obviously inspired from the Quietly ones from NEW X-MEN, which doesn't fit their late 80's looks. Considering the X-Men line has been stretched thin and not all side books sell well, I question the wisdom of this. Granted, if Marvel editorial had any grasp of history, they wouldn't have Deadpool in 4 titles until they knew he could maintain 2 for a year.

- 5 issues of ASM plus WEB and other side titles; Spider-Man's also a franchise that cannot sustain as many books as it used to, but Marvel seems to have missed the hint.

- It was inevitable that THOR got a spin-off, but SIF? Hmm.

- SIEGE #3 naturally has a bombastic pledge in the solicit, and we know that no Marvel event issue has ever lived up to them, and it makes me wonder why they bother. Now, I'll likely read this, but I am under no delusions that Bendis will write a story that doesn't end like absolute crap and he has written nearly every character wrong. I figure if I am going to spring for one SIEGE book, it may as well be the main one.

- MIGHTY AVENGERS looks good, with Ultron. Curious if it will serve as an epilogue of sorts from ANNIHILATION CONQUEST, whether Jocasta will still have her programmed "urges" to rebuild Ultron like she had in the late 90's in IRON MAN, or what. At any rate, Ultron's a big Avengers villain and I look forward to Slott's take on him. I also will be shocked if Coipel can get in 4 issues without a delay, especially if the issues will have more than 22 pages in all of them. Lenil Yu he isn't.

- The last two FRONTLINES have been crap, so let's go for a fourth and just retitle it. Brilliant.

- I think NEW AVENGERS #63 sort of kills an earlier story in which Luke Cage was seemingly dying. Guess he doesn't. Man, they don't even cut Bendis a narrative break, and he's their bread and butter.

- AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE #34 looks terrific; more Gage goodness, Jorge Molina filling in for Sandoval (who may be on ULTIMATE SECRET now), and Taskmaster vs. Captain America. To be blunt, Taskmaster needs some genuine wins to add to his new rep. The last time he defeated any impressive opponent was his own mini at the start of the decade where he tossed Iron Man around. He did "beat" Skrullowjacket and Stature once, but that doesn't really count. The last two opponents he fought solo were Deadpool and Moon Knight, and he was humiliated by both. Considering his DC counterpart, Deathstroke, would probably be allowed to beat Wonder Woman with a bo-staff, that's unacceptable. Still, I don't expect Taskmaster to beat Captain America. The best he can do is hold Cap to a draw, or at least beat some Avengers near Steve so that the loss doesn't effect his rep, which has only recently recovered thanks to Gage. I mean the Hood was literally using all of the fans talking points against Taskmaster in the last issue: he's just a copy-cat who always runs from a fight. It's time that's changed.

- I love how Marvel continues to stroke Gillen on THOR, even though he is only there to wrap up JMS' run that he was too important to finish while being seen as trusted enough to tow editorial line through SIEGE for THOR, and after the book will more than likely go to Matt Fraction. I pity the guy, I really do. Like how I pitied Dwayne McDuffie, stuck in the run between JMS and Millar on FF, whose run was supposed to shore things up between big-shots and which is mostly forgotten. Five years from now, anything Gillen does on THOR will be mistakenly attributed to JMS or Fraction. It was a shame because considering I never read anything Gillen wrote before, his debut issue of THOR was quite good; better than the last, I don't know, 2-4 of JMS'. He has what I call a "Gerald Ford Run", a run that is almost by accident, is very short, is mostly spent cleaning up the last guy's mess, and will only be fondly recalled in hindsight, and under-appreciated in present. Don't get me wrong, Fraction will be solid on THOR and he has enough of a name to carry it better, but it is kind of an insult that Marvel clearly has no faith in Gillen to carry the book for long. He'll really have no chance to write any of his own ideas for THOR between JMS clean up and SIEGE tie-in's.

- I planned on only reading Jeff Parker's THUNDERBOLTS run for the AGENTS OF ATLAS, but I may stick around with it for SIEGE, if only because two issues in have proven quite good. U.S. Agent vs. Scourge sounds excellent considering the reveal of who Scourge is with last week's issue, and could prove to be the first thing written with Walker in years that isn't just playing him for laughs because he's a Right Winger (which even Slott does).

- Part of me is bemused how Marvel is celebrating their heroines without the quiet omission that they literally have NO HEROINES of any standing who aren't either female versions of Male heroes or members on a team who have never carried their own book for very long. Granted, aside for WONDER WOMAN, DC really can't claim any different, but...at least they do have Wonder Woman. On the other hands, your odds of being raped, mutilated and killed for shock value as a heroine have become higher at DC than at Marvel, so I guess it cancels out (that, and Power Girl being her own one-woman boob joke). Quick, name me any Marvel heroine who is known for her mind. :p

- Great to see CAPTAIN AMERICA return monthly, editorial muck-ups with REBORN aside. I pity Luke Ross for having to make Steve Rogers, James Barnes and Grand Director look distinct in any close up shot since 2 out of 3 have the exact same costume and all 3 have the exact same cowl. And no, Barnes having no ears showing doesn't count; I'll hate having to look back at a panel for 3 minutes to find that to figure out he is talking. It'll be a mess unless they have some sort of obvious sticker on their masks. Still, once REBORN is past us and we've swallowed the bitter pill, it should be back to greatness for CA monthly.

- DOOMWAR will likely be pointless and unimportant. It has no tie-in's and is written by someone I have never heard of. John Romita covers are usually desperation ploys to get people to care about something if he doesn't also draw the interiors. Shame, if any villain could carry an event, it'd be Dr. Doom.

- THE MYSTIC HANDS OF DOCTOR STRANGE sounds like an erotic movie title, not a comic book. But then again, so did SECRET INVASION and GIANT-SIZE MAN-THING.

- More Jeff Parker! More AGENTS OF ATLAS as they fight some time-flung Avengers for whatever reason. Meanwhile, pleasantly amazed that Marvel Boy/Uranian is getting his own mini series. Surely Marvel can't expect it to sell beyond 12k. Still, their editorial board really loves the Agents and they're pumping them out almost as often as Deadpool lately despite a canceled title. If the Agents never catch on, it'll be on us fans and our retailers, not their efforts to support a noble franchise.

- MARVELS PROJECT will likely still be good.

- THE TWELVE: SPEARHEAD, a one shot featuring the characters and artist of THE TWELVE, the 12 issue mini JMS didn't feel like finishing after issue #8 and inked issues of #9 have popped up online like a Loch Ness Monster hoax for nearly 10 months. Marvel has some cajones expecting anyone to buy this considering they never bothered to ever finish THE TWELVE proper, even through a ghost writer. Hey, why not have Gillen wrap up for JMS there, too! If he has to mop up for the BABYLON FIVE-TARD for one book, why not another?

- BREAKING INTO COMICS THE MARVEL WAY sounds interesting. I'll save you $6 if you're an aspiring writer; publish your own indie comic, or write a successful screenplay or TV series. There is literally no other way to get in short of being an intern or delivering Bendis' child. No big two company accepts submissions, and while an artist has a portfolio, there is no way to quickly judge a writer's work without reading hours of scripts/stories. Even Bendis had to toil around the indie circuit for years before landing at Marvel.

- VENGEANCE OF THE MOON KNIGHT #6 will hopefully give us a good idea of the rest of the run. It's off to a better start than I expected.

- Looks like Magus isn't quite dead in GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #24, which means that hopefully his victims (like Cosmo) aren't quite dead either? At any rate, looks good.

- NOVA #35's cover looks like the end of a rough battle, or the beginning of a superhero hot-tub party. At any rate, curious how Abnett & Lanning wrap up their big revamp of the Sphinx.

- REALM OF KINGS: INHUMANS #5 wraps up and I am curious if Maximus will revert back to full on villain again. To be fair, considering how many of the Inhumans are jerks in one way or another, him as king may not be THAT bad.
 
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Sif's just a one-shot, so it's not like an ongoing spinoff or anything. If he were going to get a franchise, I think safe money's on Beta Ray Bill getting the first ongoing spinoff.

X-Factor Forever = the X-Factor version of X-Men Forever. Louise Simonson left the book and then it puttered along with the original 5 for a while before moving over to PAD's revamp. Now Marvel's giving Simonson the chance to tell the story she would've told had she continued. (I don't think it's gonna sell too well either; I'm actually interested in the original 5 but I'm probably not gonna buy it because, really, it's just a throwaway tale that'll make no difference in anything.)
 
Valkyrie spinoff.

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You kidding? No one got around to having Clor and Tarene/Thor Girl meet Thor yet, and they both flew off to do so about half a year ago. Valkyrie will have to wait. :p

Sif's just a one-shot, so it's not like an ongoing spinoff or anything. If he were going to get a franchise, I think safe money's on Beta Ray Bill getting the first ongoing spinoff.

X-Factor Forever = the X-Factor version of X-Men Forever. Louise Simonson left the book and then it puttered along with the original 5 for a while before moving over to PAD's revamp. Now Marvel's giving Simonson the chance to tell the story she would've told had she continued. (I don't think it's gonna sell too well either; I'm actually interested in the original 5 but I'm probably not gonna buy it because, really, it's just a throwaway tale that'll make no difference in anything.)

One shot for SIF, okay. Still, that is bizarre that they have enough faith in THOR that they think a one shot starring a character who has barely had seven lines so far in THOR will sell in the Top 100. If it does, though, more power to the Odinson.

That's a good theory for X-FACTOR FOREVER. What, is the new trend to have every past their prime creator do a mulligan run on some past book they had? What next?

I think the big two spend enough time thinking backward, and this is not a good trend to have. And they wonder why many young readers smugly see these comics as, "Captain Yesterday". I'm 27 and I am tired with being hit over the head with something from two decades ago again and again and again and again and told it was gold until I die. Move FORWARD with these five characters, not write the ONE TRILLIONTH flashback mini series that means utterly nothing with them. Cripes.

What next? In 30 years can Gillen do a "what if THOR" run where he writes a few issues of what he would have done without being saddled, like every writer to a degree is? Will Bendis return whenever his fame fades and write issues of NEW NEW AVENGERS if he hadn't had to bend a bit for CIVIL WAR or whatever? C'mon, where does it end!?

Marvel editors, DC editors, I have an exercise for you. I want you to step out of your office. No, really, step outside, into that bold new thing called the real world. I want you to see those things that young people are using. They will be some sort of machine. Then I want you to walk into a real live comic shop and look at the innovation of the hipster books vs. the sluggish, nothing ever changes pace of yours. Don't announce yourself, don't make a stink, just examine your audience, examine them interacting in their real, live world. See and hear how it is a running joke how nothing changes in comics, how all of your bold tricks and wool-pulling works on precisely NO ONE, and no one takes it seriously. Then I want you to realize that writing for the Centrum Silver crowd can only go so far, and genuinely come up with a way to write old characters in new ways, to have new ideas that are new but still have the spirit. And I hope that the only time this sort of thing happens editorially isn't a year or two after a bankruptcy.

Manga sells because it moves forward. Young people at least believe it is going somewhere. No one has believed any Big two comic was going anywhere for a longer term than a particular writer's run in at least 25 years. That's the gap that has to be changed. Yes, as I learned this week, there are young people who don't read manga and do read big two comics. But there are also albino alligators out there. That doesn't mean a proper strategy is to ONLY count on them. There has to be a way to have a forward thinking editorial drive even though both companies rely on franchises made during WW2 or Vietnam. That is the challenge of comics this century, and beyond token downloads, the Big Two have shirked it. Who will make that plunge into the future first? Who?

I think I am reaching that point in my comic reading life where there is little the big two can offer me beyond particular writers' runs, and I fear that I will be lost into the crowd that is indie snobbery simply because I demand seeing stories and franchises move forward with an end goal, instead of jerking backwards every 5-20 years like scared first graders. :o
 
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Hope Summers = Jean 2.0

At any rate, Paul O'Brien published his sales figures for THE BEAT today, and it seems DOOMWAR may be a "hiatus mini" for BLACK PANTHER, which is going on break in about 2-3 issues. It's fallen back to pre-relaunch sales.
 
- DOOMWAR will likely be pointless and unimportant. It has no tie-in's and is written by someone I have never heard of. John Romita covers are usually desperation ploys to get people to care about something if he doesn't also draw the interiors. Shame, if any villain could carry an event, it'd be Dr. Doom.

Ah, dammit, don't say that. It's the only event I've had genuine interest in for quite some time. Though, you're probably right :csad:
 
I would guess the rationale for X-Factor Forever is that they had Louise Simonson back in the office, she said she'd like to do it, and they decided what the heck. I've always imagined that a certain percentage of Marvel's publishing budget is set aside for "books we know won't sell but we feel like doing anyway" (see also: Agents of Atlas).
 
Ah, dammit, don't say that. It's the only event I've had genuine interest in for quite some time. Though, you're probably right :csad:

According to THE BEAT, DOOMWAR is basically taking the place of BLACK PANTHER for a while to drum up sales and guest stars, but basically continues the story from it. So, yeah, probably pointless.

I would guess the rationale for X-Factor Forever is that they had Louise Simonson back in the office, she said she'd like to do it, and they decided what the heck. I've always imagined that a certain percentage of Marvel's publishing budget is set aside for "books we know won't sell but we feel like doing anyway" (see also: Agents of Atlas).

But is this a way to run a business? "Because we can" has never been a good, rational reason for...anything I can think of. It's fun when you're in college, not investing money. It's the House of Ideas, not the Fraternity Of Ideas, right? :p

AGENTS OF ATLAS is not the same. They are old characters, yes, and there were flashback subplots, but it is a story set in the PRESENT, moving FORWARD with them, in PRESENT CONTINUITY. That was how it started in 2005 and that is how it remains, tying into SECRET INVASION, DARK REIGN and ASSAULT ON NEW OLYMPUS in newer tales. The only way it would be compariable was if some writer from the 1940's decided he wanted to write these characters again in a mini series set in the past outside current continuity.
 
Occasionally something really viable turns up out of it.
 
According to THE BEAT, DOOMWAR is basically taking the place of BLACK PANTHER for a while to drum up sales and guest stars, but basically continues the story from it. So, yeah, probably pointless

Seriously? Well, I probably won't even bother. I don't follow Black Panther and have no idea what's going on with it or anything.
 
That's gambling, not strategy. If gambling was a strategy, then every billionaire would buy, say, a million dollars worth of lottery tickets and expect to see a return on said investment.
 
So you would rather Marvel have not greenlit Agents of Atlas, then? Occasionally they do stuff just for creative purposes. Hasn't hurt their bottom line yet.
 
There is a difference between revamping old forgotten 1950's characters into a modern day team working in modern day plots in modern day continuity vs. a run set in the past by someone from the past that is from continuity from the past at $4 an issue.

Now, if Louise Simonson was willing to release a mini set in modern day with these characters, or close to them, then it would be clearer. Right now it seems as if someone figured that SPIDER-MAN: THE CLONE SAGA has merely sold poorly rather than terribly and figure X-FACTOR will have a better shot.
 

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