The Rise of Skywalker Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker (IX)

I, as well, really have loved Lukes arc in the ST. Plus, what Luke ends up doing in TLJ at the end is the most Jedi thing he could possibly could have ever done. It just makes sense to me what happened to Luke.

I'm very very excited to see what Luke does in TROS and his interactions with both Rey and Kylo. As well as what his response will be if in fact Palpatine has been pulling the strings all along.
 
Yeeah, Luke was perfect. He was either always a pacifist or out of his league. And, I love that of him...

Anyone who thinks otherwise only remembers what they imagined with their toys or stuff from the comics.
 
Yeah it was real pacifistic the way he refused to shoot all those storm troopers or blow up the Death Star or kill Jabba's henchmen or help plan the death of Jabba himself.

I remember when Luke told Jabba "This is your last chance. Free us...or we will continue to negotiate peacefully". Powerful moment.
 
Yeah it was real pacifistic the way he refused to shoot all those storm troopers or blow up the Death Star or kill Jabba's henchmen or help plan the death of Jabba himself.

I remember when Luke told Jabba "This is your last chance. Free us...or we will continue to negotiate peacefully". Powerful moment.

I'd have to agree with you there, he was never shy about violence. His life dream was to go and be a fighter pilot for the Rebellion so he was actively seeking out war.

Something that he most definitely always was is someone that never, ever gave up on those that needed him. Someone that never hesitated to risk himself for the greater good, or to help his friends, even when it looked futile. Luke in the new films is built on being the opposite of that. He's now someone that goes to the edge of coldly murdering a family member at the first sign of darkness and someone that abandons everyone at the first sign of the dark side rising again.
 
The pacifist would like to avoid the whole war. Luke deceived Kylo so that more than a dozen people could escape and continue the war. He said that war is just the beginning.

Luke's character is written badly from the beginning to the end. It is not a problem that Luke was broken and discouraged. It's about how it was written.
 
Ultimately, this story should be about Luke Skywalker in all his greatness and legendary accomplishments passing the torch to the new generation. As great as your generation is, what the goal should be is for the next generation to surpass you and be even greater. Also that Luke's legacy won't die with him and will carry on with the next.

I think in many ways, Johnson had the right idea, he struggled to execute it. I truly believe with a few rewrites, Last Jedi could've been fantastic.

IMHO when Yoda says, "We are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters." THat's a brilliant and beautiful line. It sort of sums everything up thematically. What if Luke were to even struggle with the idea of someone even surpassing him? That would be an even better story. Luke having to come to grips with that. I just don't think Johnson fully brought those ideas out. He needed people who would give him serious constructive feedback and really do that. Look just like Lucas had great collaborators with the 1977 film. Not to mention, some of the best story ideas that came out of that film came in the editing room during post production.

If you want a good example of a story that does this the right way, look no further than My Hero Academia, especially the movie Two Heroes. It's weird because Two Heroes feels like a weird response to Last Jedi of sorts. It even addresses the problem of fanboy nostalgia and fans desperate to maintain the status quo who are opposed to change.
 
Ultimately, this story should be about Luke Skywalker in all his greatness and legendary accomplishments passing the torch to the new generation. As great as your generation is, what the goal should be is for the next generation to surpass you and be even greater. Also that Luke's legacy won't die with him and will carry on with the next.

I think in many ways, Johnson had the right idea, he struggled to execute it. I truly believe with a few rewrites, Last Jedi could've been fantastic.

IMHO when Yoda says, "We are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters." THat's a brilliant and beautiful line. It sort of sums everything up thematically. What if Luke were to even struggle with the idea of someone even surpassing him? That would be an even better story. Luke having to come to grips with that. I just don't think Johnson fully brought those ideas out. He needed people who would give him serious constructive feedback and really do that. Look just like Lucas had great collaborators with the 1977 film. Not to mention, some of the best story ideas that came out of that film came in the editing room during post production.

If you want a good example of a story that does this the right way, look no further than My Hero Academia, especially the movie Two Heroes. It's weird because Two Heroes feels like a weird response to Last Jedi of sorts. It even addresses the problem of fanboy nostalgia and fans desperate to maintain the status quo who are opposed to change.

Hmm. Not sure I agree about that version making for a better story. Then it solely becomes about Luke's ego and pride. You get some of that in the current version, where he believed his own hype and thought he could train Ben despite the warning signs he saw. What I like about what we got is it adds the additional layer of Luke feeling personally responsible for the downfall of everything he fought for and having to confront the overall failures of the Jedi as an institution. I think given that this entire sequel trilogy is undoing the "Happily ever after" we had in Return of the Jedi, it's an elephant in the room that absolutely needed to be addressed. I think Luke had to look at the bigger picture of this cycle that seems to keep repeating. While it's a bit heavier and more difficult than some fans may have wanted, I think it brings the saga forward in some very interesting ways and possibly sets us up for a new kind of Jedi or force user that won't simply try to restore the older status quo.

I certainly think rewrites and collaboration could've sharpened some of the edges and improved things, but overall I still think the meat and potatoes of the story really works. Luke's arc was my favorite part of TLJ.
 
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Hmm. Not sure I agree about that version making for a better story. Then it solely becomes about Luke's ego and pride. You get some of that in the current version, where he believed his own hype and thought he could train Ben despite the warning signs he saw. What I like about what we got is it adds the additional layer of Luke feeling personally responsible for the downfall of everything he fought for and having to confront the overall failures of the Jedi as an institution. I think given that this entire sequel trilogy is undoing the "Happily ever after" we had in Return of the Jedi, it's an elephant in the room that absolutely needed to be addressed. I think Luke had to look at the bigger picture of this cycle that seems to keep repeating. While it's a bit heavier and more difficult than some fans may have wanted, I think it brings the saga forward in some very interesting ways and possibly sets us up for a new kind of Jedi or force user that won't simply try to restore the older status quo.

I certainly think rewrites and collaboration could've sharpened some of the edges and improved things, but overall I still think the meat and potatoes of the story really works. Luke's arc was my favorite part of TLJ.

That's not about ego and pride. He was doing what he thought was the right thing. He did what he thought Yoda had instructed him to do. By confronting Vader and refusing to strike him down out of anger and hatred, he passed his trial and became a true Jedi knight. He was supposed to pass on what he learned.

Also, I'm talking about making corrections to Last Jedi and what could've made this work better because I think there are things that work about this already.

If this story continues, then evil is never going to be vanquished for good. There will always be a time where evil will rear its ugly head and the light has to respond to restore balance.

I don't think it would solely be about Luke's ego and pride. It would be about Luke accepting his failures and realizing the story is no longer about him. Rey has inherited his legacy and is carrying on in her own way.

The way Luke's journey ended in Last Jedi was not deeply satisfying. It felt like a kick to the groin.
 
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As a Force ghost I hope he appears to Rey and he appears often
 
As a force ghost, I hope he’s doing nothing but drinking blue titty milk.
 
You know before the batman arkham games came out i had no idea he played joker in the 90s cartoon and he was so great at it. When i found out he had done that and got to hear him in the arkham games i loved it has they are some of my favorite video games ever. But the really cool thing is from his interviews and such he just seems to be a really cool dude. A lot of famous/ritch people seem to be stuck up people. Mark though just seems to be very thankful for getting to do what he does and seems to just really care for the support the fans have given him over the year.
 
I think in the 3-4 mins of screentime Luke had here, he was portrayed better than in TLJ.

He really felt like the inspiring, hopeful and wise Luke that we know from the OT, compared to the grumpy and given up on everything Luke from TLJ.

It kind of reminded me of Supes' portrayal in JL, compared to BvS.

It is so disappointing that Luke was already dead by the time he was portrayed right...
 
I think in the 3-4 mins of screentime Luke had here, he was portrayed better than in TLJ.

He really felt like the inspiring, hopeful and wise Luke that we know from the OT, compared to the grumpy and given up on everything Luke from TLJ.

It kind of reminded me of Supes' portrayal in JL, compared to BvS.

It is so disappointing that Luke was already dead by the time he was portrayed right...

Yep this is definitely the Luke Skywalker I wish we had got in TLJ and it's a shame because I still believe the character had a lot of potential left.
 
Hamill was fine in this, as was Luke himself. Something superficial though... The hair looked really bad in this one, except for a couple of shots, and Hamill looked a bit heavier to me.
 
After watching Rise Of Skywalker
I loved the course correction with Luke’s reappearance as a wise and powerful Jedi. As soon as he grabbed his Father’s lightsaber from the fire and told Rey how he was wrong and moreover showed respect for the purpose of the lightsaber I was thrilled. This was the wise and powerful I wanted. The full circle act of using the force to lifting his X-Wing out from the ocean was beautiful with John Williams score of Yoda from Empire Strikes Back was so rewardingly satisfying. When. I hear his voice with the rest of the Jedi in encouraging Rey to rise and defeat the Empire was also excellent. The cherry on top for me is the ending on Tatooine where Rey visits the Homestead and she takes on the name of Skywalker in honor of the adoptive family that she connected with. Luke and Leia look on with pride as the twin Binary Sunset dawns with Rey & BB-8 look out into the distance.
 
I'd have to agree with you there, he was never shy about violence. His life dream was to go and be a fighter pilot for the Rebellion so he was actively seeking out war.

Something that he most definitely always was is someone that never, ever gave up on those that needed him. Someone that never hesitated to risk himself for the greater good, or to help his friends, even when it looked futile. Luke in the new films is built on being the opposite of that. He's now someone that goes to the edge of coldly murdering a family member at the first sign of darkness and someone that abandons everyone at the first sign of the dark side rising again.

So perfectly stated. Seriously can you please be hired to redo this entire trilogy? What you just said is total gold. Major props
 
I loved Luke in RoS

His interaction with Rey and what he said to her felt like the Luke I knew from the OT, just sucks he was dead
 
Seeing Luke in Rise of Skywalker, he's now where Obi-Wan was in RoTJ.
 

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