Marvel banned smoking in films

[R_Hythlodeus]

Enjoying those paychecks from Kevin Feige I see.

*Smokes clove cigarette*

he pays me with great movies

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Not a big issue to me personally, doesn't effect my enjoyment of the movies so don't really care.

 

[Yowza]

Now that I think of it, Jessica Jones did smoke under the Max imprint. I don't remember her firing up a stogie on the TV show though?

I guess Marvel's Netflix shows must have that rule in effect as well as the fact they have to maintain a pg14 rating.

 

[ripse]

Maybe with no smoking, could save much human life and save your money to watch movie....hmmm..i think

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

drinks all over the place but no smoking?

at least we got stark to mention a huge bag of weed in av1 and a greenhouse of it in JJ.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Now that I think of it, Jessica Jones did smoke under the Max imprint. I don't remember her firing up a stogie on the TV show though?

I guess Marvel's Netflix shows must have that rule in effect as well as the fact they have to maintain a pg14 rating.

It would be quite silly to have the "no smoking" policy on the Netflix shows since we've regularly seen characters use street drugs and drink enough alcohol to choke Galactus. However, I didn't watch DD or JJ looking for instances of smoking, so I don't remember either.

 

[Dasher10]

It's 2015. It's illegal to smoke indoors. It's also impolite to smoke in public. Banning smoking in films doesn't affect my enjoyment since smoking in a contemporary setting would be a lot more distracting.

 

[Lantern Venom]

It's 2015. It's illegal to smoke indoors. It's also impolite to smoke in public. Banning smoking in films doesn't affect my enjoyment since smoking in a contemporary setting would be a lot more distracting.

I believe many of those bans vary from state-to-state. I know many casinos and bars in the Eastern half of the US don't necessarily have to ban it. I know NYC has a few types of bans, but I'm not sure if it's for all businesses city wide.

 

[Mike Murdock]

It's also only illegal to smoke indoors of public buildings. Your home is still perfectly fine.

 

[Yowza]

I wouldn't mind (edit: actually support) allowing rental agencies to ban smoking in apartment complexes...

It sucks to have a neighbor nonchalantly dropping their cigarettes around. If it puts them and their own property at risk of fire then that's one thing legally speaking but to put all the other neighbor's living in the same complex should be illegal I think. Beyond that, I'm sticking to what I posted.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

I wouldn't mind (edit: actually support) allowing rental agencies to ban smoking in apartment complexes...

look, it's one thing to ban smoking in official buildings, maybe even in restaurants and bars (though I'd prefer to leave it to the owners to ban it or not), but ban it in apartements? that's going way too far. (and it's a proto-fascist mindset, really. and I'm usually not throwing words like that around like they are Halloween treats.) I SHOULD be allowed to smoke in my own home. especially if I have no chance to do it elsewhere. eliminate the options to smoke outside of my home as much as you want if that somehow makes you feel better for whatever misguided reasons, but leave your healthfanatic hands out of my own four walls

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

look, it's one thing to ban smoking in official buildings, maybe even in restaurants and bars (though I'd prefer to leave it to the owners to ban it or not), but ban it in apartements? that's going way too far. (and it's a proto-fascist mindset, really. and I'm usually not throwing words like that around like they are Halloween treats.) I SHOULD be allowed to smoke in my own home

I don't smoke myself, and I hate when people blow it in my face etc, but I agree. People need to stop being politically correct fascists here in the Western world.

"I'm offended by (things that makes them whine)"

If I ever find a magic lamp and a genie grants me three wishes, I'll wish:

1. That someone finds an effective cure for cancer.

2. That the ISIS terrorists are transported to a planet with dinosaurs.

3. That every single pc whiner gets hemorrhoids that last for five years.

I'm sorry, but enough is enough.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I wouldn't mind (edit: actually support) allowing rental agencies to ban smoking in apartment complexes...

They can, depending on the lease. Even for condos, the condo association can do it. That's just a matter of contract law. But the government doesn't do it. And a place like the place Jessica Jones lives in wouldn't do it because they're a crappy apartment that doesn't care what you do as long as you pay money.

 

[MbJ]

I don't really need to see smoking. As others have said, I didn't even notice that Jessica never smoked in her TV show, so it's not like it was important.

It's an issue where I guess on an intellectual level I can understand why people who are pro-smoking are upset, but I personally don't really care one way or another. I don't think there's any character where smoking is so integral to them that it ruins the movie or TV show to omit it.

 

[Yowza]

look, it's one thing to ban smoking in official buildings, maybe even in restaurants and bars (though I'd prefer to leave it to the owners to ban it or not), but ban it in apartements? that's going way too far. (and it's a proto-fascist mindset, really. and I'm usually not throwing words like that around like they are Halloween treats.) I SHOULD be allowed to smoke in my own home. especially if I have no chance to do it elsewhere. eliminate the options to smoke outside of my home as much as you want if that somehow makes you feel better for whatever misguided reasons, but leave your healthfanatic hands out of my own four walls

I was saying rental agencies (and yes perhaps even condo agency) should be allowed to ban it. They own the apartment complexes so can set the rules in the lease that one signs to live there. I think it's important due to fire safety concerns as one person igniting their apartment on fire would of course burn my apartment and some of my belongings with it if they're right behind the wall next door.

I've heard of someone who's lived at an apartment where they had a neighbor on the other side that dropped cigarettes on the floor, walls all yellow, and tar all over a table that couldn't care for himself all that well (older person). As a consequence, I heard the rental agency specify that he had to smoke outside due to the damages he caused. Fire safety isn't about being PC or fascist; heck my attitude leans towards not banning it on films/TV shows. Community living right next to one another compromises need to be made sometimes. I think the rental agency should have the right to control certain things to protect their own assets as well as the rights of other tenants.

Believe me, I find it far preferable to live out in the country in one's own home. It sucks but some compromises are necessary even in condo living situations unfortunately.

They can, depending on the lease. Even for condos, the condo association can do it. That's just a matter of contract law. But the government doesn't do it. And a place like the place Jessica Jones lives in wouldn't do it because they're a crappy apartment that doesn't care what you do as long as you pay money.

Thank You. You seem more understanding. I guess I was just trying to say I understand smoking concerns and support limiting it in certain circumstances. I get the concerns about putting it on film but I guess my attitude in previous posts on not banning it in films remains. I think especially for the Netflix shows they can stretch the rules some more but oh well...

 

[TalismanRing]

Should they also ban drinking because your neighbor might get drunk and forget he left the tea kettle on and burn down the building? You have a far greater chance of your neighbor's Christmas tree, space heater or over loaded socket burning down your apt building than a smoker. The different ways they're treated comes down to banning something one doesn't personally approve of more than the actual realities and consequences of the habit which means it's not about fire safety or community living.

Not having smoking in Agent Carter and TFA is anachronistic though I notice it more in the former because there are more social and work settings in the series that make the lack of it far more noticeable.

You don't even have to watch films from the 1940s to see how things have changed. In a movie from the 80s or even 90s you can see people smoking on planes and in hospitals. I was watching one a few weeks ago where the Dr. was consulting with a pregnant patient and just puffing away. Surreal.

 

[BoredGuy]

Yeah even kids smoked in 80's movies
It's amazing how much more censored we are today than 30 years ago

But I think, in general, it in no way hurts the Marvel films to not have smoking. It'd be cool to see Fury or Dum Dum Duggan chompin on a cigar, Wolverine also needs his stoagies (the comics still feel weird not having them) so it's good Fox and the MPAA have let them get away with it. But I haven't really noticed its absence thus far, and I'm a smoker so I always notice when people smoke in TV or movies.

I do however think the Netflix shows should have a little leeway

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah even kids smoked in 80's movies

Well, that seems like precisely the kind of thing they'd want to avoid. You want to avoid a smoking role model if you can help it. If they had Alexander Pierce or one of the other agents with Peggy Carter smoke, kids might try to emulate it. But Samuel L. Jackson was smoking, people might go "that's awesome, I gotta try that!"

 

[Rorschach2012]

I don't really need to see smoking. As others have said, I didn't even notice that Jessica never smoked in her TV show, so it's not like it was important.

It's an issue where I guess on an intellectual level I can understand why people who are pro-smoking are upset, but I personally don't really care one way or another. I don't think there's any character where smoking is so integral to them that it ruins the movie or TV show to omit it.

I agree with most of what you're saying except for the last sentence

It doesn't ruin him per se, but John Constantine's smoking habit is utterly integral to his character. It's not the same when he isn't chain smoking. The cigarette in hand is part of the Constantine visual. It's like removing the fins on Batmans gloves or something

 

[Yowza]

Should they also ban drinking because your neighbor might get drunk and forget he left the tea kettle on and burn down the building? You have a far greater chance of your neighbor's Christmas tree, space heater or over loaded socket burning down your apt building than a smoker. The different ways they're treated comes down to banning something one doesn't personally approve of more than the actual realities and consequences of the habit which means it's not about fire safety or community living.

Well, you sign a lease. If you choose to sign a lease with someone who doesn't have smoking in the residence then it is what it is. Think about it, if you have a neighbor next door who isn't really with it and drops cigarettes on his sofa or just round about, it is a concern. That same neighbor very well could start a fire other ways too no doubt. We can't limit every single possible way but if someone is smoking 4-6 times a day and dropping them wherever the probability of a fire could become a more likely possibility.

We can't eliminate all possibilities of course but some can be controlled more so than others. It is what it is. Simply lessening probability of a fire by manageable means but not completely eliminating the possibility 100% doesn't automatically throwout the notion of fire safety completely. Community living=rental agency doing things through manageable means. Your using a black and white 100% removal of fire all the time to throw out my points completely. You disagree that's fine. I know it's an inconvenience but I made my points clear.

 

[BoredGuy]

And how many smokers do you think just randomly toss lit butts around their apartment or property??
There's these things called ashtrays
that's a dumb argument

If the Rental Agency wants to ban it because of clean-up concerns from the tar, that makes sense, but the fire risk thing is way overblown (especially with modern self-extinguishing cigarettes)

 

[MbJ]

Yeah even kids smoked in 80's movies
It's amazing how much more censored we are today than 30 years ago.

That's because many people didn't know how bad it was for you or that it caused cancer until recent decades. You don't see kids not smoking because of censorship, you see kids not smoking because of common sense.

There's a lot of stuff done in old movies that was deemed acceptable for society at the time that isn't anymore. That's part of living in a world where time progresses.

 

[BoredGuy]

Not saying kids should smoke, and that's been common f***ing sense since before the aforementioned 80's movies

just saying filmmakers could take more risks back in the day and be more real with s**t instead of having to tiptoe around the MPAA

my point was not "hey we should have kids smokin all the time in kids movies... gritty realism ftw!"

 

[Hypestyle]

When did this happen?

 

[Doctor Octopus]

the only scene that comes to mind is General Ross smoking a cigar in the Bar with Tony

I forget about that one. I think that maybe the only one. After credit scene too.