Marvel Studios 2009 Films: Captain America & Avengers or Ant-Man

[Advanced Dark]

Peter Cuneo revealed this the other day during an analyst conference call at Bear Sterns. Marvel will be releasing 2 Marvel Studios films per year from 2008 forward.

2008: Iron Man & Hulk
2009: Captain American & Avengers or Ant-Man

I say do Ant-Man first and then do a big Avengers flick in 2010.
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Marvel to Participate at Bear Stearns and Raymond James Conferences on March 5th & 6th
Wednesday February 28, 11:25 am ET
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BEAR STEARNS'S 20TH ANNUAL MEDIA CONFERENCE
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Go to the audio link above to listen to the webcast replay.

 

[blind_fury]

A Captain America and Avengers movie the same year? That's ******ed.

It's too soon for the Avengers. That's playing your ace card way too early.

At least wait until after Iron Man 2 is realeased if not Captain America 2.

 

[Advanced Dark]

He said Ant-Man "OR" Avengers. I agree Avengers should wait till 2010 or maybe a year or two after that. I know Zak is doing that after Hulk.

 

[blind_fury]

If they are limited to 2 movies a year the schedule should look like this:

2008 - Iron Man, TIH

2009 - Captain America, Dr.Strange (screw Ant-Man)

2010 - Iron Man 2, TIH 2

2011 - Avengers, Dr. Strange 2

 

[Advanced Dark]

They're not gonna screw Ant-Man so Ant-Man is in for 09 or 10

 

[blind_fury]

Introducing the major Avenger charecters before the Avengers movie comes out should take priority over Ant-Man. They should do Thor and Captain America before the Avengers comes out. Anticipation for these characters will nose dive after Avengers is released.

2009 - Captain America, Thor

2010 - Iron Man 2, TIH 2

2011 - Avengers , Dr.Strange

20 years later - "Ant-Man"

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't think a more than likely small production like Ant-Man should count in the two per year thing. I think it should be two MAJOR productions a year. Ant-Man is small time.

 

[CAH]

Ant-Man is going to a fun and interesting film mesa thinks...

CAH

 

[Spider-Fan]

Anyone who says that Jar Jar Binks line is just wrong, much like the man who coined the phrase!

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ LOL Funny but still Ant-Man will probalby be one of the most visually amazing films if done right. All those shrinking man films are great now imagine one with a superhero.

 

[blind_fury]

I don't think a more than likely small production like Ant-Man should count in the two per year thing. I think it should be two MAJOR productions a year. Ant-Man is small time.

Well if that's the case then I couldn't care less if they did Ant-Man. As long as they can do Captain America AND Thor movies before the Avengers comes out.

 

[blind_fury]

Ant-Man will cost at least 80 million so it will be considered a major production.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Actually no Ant-Man is a large production. It's not small by any means except the size of the character. With Edgar Wright behind it...it's going to be wildly successful overseas for sure.

 

[Spider-Fan]

What is Ant-Man's budget?

Also, I agree that a Thor movie should come before an Avengers movie.

I think the two per year limit isn't a good idea. Maybe for the first few years the studio is in existance, but that policy will have to be altered once the studio starts making serious money.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Ant-Man's budget is probably in the 100 million range. That's just a guess based on statements from Cuneo and Feige in the past regarding their 7 projects of focus from their slate. The biggest a Marvel film will ever be is 180 million on the books which is = to a much bigger film from another studio. Depending on how well the Hulk film does I believe the next Hulk film will be the first to approach 180 million as might Iron Man 2 with War Machine.

 

[blind_fury]

The most money an Edgar Wright movie ever made was 30 million worldwide.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I can't see it being 100 mil...I highly doubt he can bank that much and shrinking movies have been done for much cheaper.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Really? How much has Hot Fuzz made already and it was just released? Also Edgar Wright has never made a mass market film like this with the Marvel brand name. He's also never made a big budget film before like this. Every Marvel film with a budget over 100 million has done well with The Hulk being the worse collection 250 million worldwide. It's the content. What did Raimi do before Spider-Man honestly that had made over 100 million? Evil Dead 3? Darkman? LOL What did Singers films do on average before X-Men?

 

[blind_fury]

Introducing Thor in an Avengers movie would be a huge mistake.

A Thor origin movie could make alot of money and if you wait until after the Avengers movie you lose the anticipation for a Thor movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Ant-Man has less popularity than Ghost Rider or Daredevil. DD barely crossed 100 mil (though GR is doing better than I expected). I don't think he can. He is not a character that screams major franchise. He is a character that screams maybe a smaller franchise that is still profitable.

Just because it is Marvel, it doesn't mean it has to be a 100 mil movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Introducing Thor in an Avengers movie would be a huge mistake.

A Thor origin movie could make alot of money and if you wait until after the Avengers movie you lose the anticipation for a Thor movie.

Thor could be a major franchise for Marvel, and introducing him in an Avengers movie would be a mistake I agree.

 

[blind_fury]

Really? How much has Hot Fuzz made already and it was just released? Also Edgar Wright has never made a mass market film like this with the Marvel brand name. He's also never made a big budget film before like this. Every Marvel film with a budget over 100 million has done well with The Hulk being the worse collection 250 million worldwide. It's the content. What did Raimi do before Spider-Man honestly that had made over 100 million? Evil Dead 3? Darkman? LOL What did Singers films do on average before X-Men?

But unlike Spider-man and X-men, Ant-Man isn't incredibly popular.

Spider-men and X-men are first-tier characters. Ant-Man is 3rd-tier at best.

A character like that will be lucky to make it's budget back and that's if the movie is really good.

 

[Spider-Fan]

But unlike Spider-man and X-men, Ant-Man isn't incredibly popular.

Spider-men and X-men are first-tier characters. Ant-Man is 3rd-tier at best.

A character like that will be lucky to make it's budget back and that's if the movie is really good.

Exactly right

 

[Advanced Dark]

Ant-Man has less popularity than Ghost Rider or Daredevil. DD barely crossed 100 mil (though GR is doing better than I expected). I don't think he can. He is not a character that screams major franchise. He is a character that screams maybe a smaller franchise that is still profitable.

Just because it is Marvel, it doesn't mean it has to be a 100 mil movie.

It's gonna be near 100 million and popularity has nothing to do with the success of a new film franchise because they can make it popular on their own with a good marketing campaign. The difference also is Ghost Rider was a February release which is gonna pull in 220+ Million Worldwide. The character itself though toned down would never have the appeal of an ant-man film. No it's not gonna focus on wife beating so put that aside. It's gonna be a PG-13 summer release which means video game and toy support on a much bigger level than Ghost Rider.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I am not so shocked GR is doing this well. I would be horribly shocked if Ant-Man crossed 100 mil. Marvel has so many more safe bets than Ant-Man, it would be a mistake to do a 100 mil movie of him. A good small movie and another blockbuster (like Thor) would serve them better.