The Defenders Marvel Working With Netflix and ABC on Additional Series.

[ralphuniverse]

G'day,

This is not a problem. Firstly , have a watch of the original Blade movies. They explained vampirism as a virus infection. There was nothing supernatural it.

Even if they decide to give it more of a supernatural twist, any production will be released after Dr Strange who has the job of introducing mystical elements to the MCU.

Ralph

This is my concern too. Vampires in the MCU?!? We already have "aliens" which are really just from other planets or galaxies. And we have Inhumans, which are replacing the mutants, with a kind of believable explanation as to why they exist. But vampires? I don't know. Some things are just better to keep in the comics or on their own universe. Unless they incorporate that the vampires are just "a race of aliens" living among humans for many years and to not even mention or say anything about the common knowledge we have of them from other films.

 

[Dasher10]

A talking alien tree is a major character in a successful film but vampires are too much of a stretch?

I'd love to see a Blade series rebooted under the name The Tomb of Dracula which explores Blade's rich supporting cast including his daughter, Hannibal King, Morbius, Frank Drake, Rachel van Helsing, Quincy Harker, etc. That and making Dracula a very big focus of the show who often gets episodes focused on him.

I don't think that there's a way to one-up the first two films but making Blade into a TV show that explores a large ensemble cast is a great way to keep the IP relevant. That and a more comic accurate (aka older) Deacon Frost, and an eventual team-up with Dracula to fight Doctor Sun would be very welcome.

That along with more moral ambiguity since Hannibal King would still be a vampire and Morbius is struggling with what it means to be transformed since he literally just turned would be very nice. That and making Blade into a both a father and introducing his own father Lucas Cross while Dracula struggles with his son Xarus would add an interesting family dynamic to the mix.

There is no reason why vampires couldn't fit into the MCU when Blade and his very large supporting cast have such a rich history that would better fit a TV show. Plus there's already a great arc where Deacon Frost is Blade's target in Season 1 who leads Blade to Lucas Cross in Season 2 then Doctor Sun in season 3 while Dracula has to struggle against Deacon Frost in the first Season for control, then have to deal with his own son trying to usurp him, then teaming up with Blade again in Season 3 to combat Doctor Sun who wants to wipe out all vampires which even Blade wouldn't want in this continuity.

Blade would be more of a bounty hunter who struggles with being a dhampir rather than resenting himself for it who wants to keep bad vampires in line and ensure that most vampires don't prey on the innocent. The MCU version of Blade would be less ashamed of putting Dracula in the series than Blade: Trinity was and have him be a power mad villain who unleashed vampirism as a disease after making a pact with a demon (Chthon, Dormammu or Mephisto) but also isn't nearly as evil as some of the major villains since he doesn't experiment on other vampires in terrible ways like Deacon Frost, doesn't want to conquer the entire world like Xarus, doesn't breed with humans like Lucas Cross or commit genocide like Doctor Sun. He's just content with ruling over all vampires and doesn't have a problem with them killing humans in order to feed. Blade needs to be stuck letting him live at the end of each season because he realizes that there are far worse threats out there.

And for one thing, Dracula would never fall in love with a member of a subspecies of vampire which feeds on other vampires, especially if her child is destined to conquer the world. Something which Blade is guilty of which may give him a reason to eventually have to kill his only child.

This is all present in the Marvel U. I don't think it's possible to improve upon the first two films in terms of action but it's absolutely possible to turn Blade into an ensemble vampire soap opera about two vampires whose lives are intertwined despite being mortal enemies.

 

[Loki882]

Can they use Morbius, or would he be tied into the Spider-Man film rights? And for that matter, how many Spider-Man characters, outside of the main ones, does Marvel have access to under it's deal with Sony? I'm still kind of confused/unsure about how that works.

 

[metaphysician]

The idea of vampires isn't the problem. Its the form of vampiric *society* that is potentially an issue. Which is to say, if every city has dozens of vampires regularly killing a ton of people to feed, it breaks credibility that none of the various active important factions or characters have not noticed. Or, "Why did SHIELD not commit spec ops vampire genocide in the 60s?"

This means that vampiric society needs to be such that either SHIELD and similar organizations and people would not notice that vampires exist, or it needs to be such that they do not consider vampires an important enough concern to be worth dealing with. This means, most likely, that there needs to be *no* vampiric society, as such, so much as a relative handful of individual vampires, most of them moving in circles or regions where conventional superhumans and superspy organizations aren't active. If 90% of the world's vampires live in Not!Transylvania, and the rest are mostly loners who are either secretive or wandering or both? Then its perfectly credible that they exist in the setting.

 

[kedrell]

I'm all for a Damage Control and Runaways. Could be really rich storytelling.

Yeah, and you could use the Power Broker as the slimy bad guy corporation who provides the source of antagonism for the series by keeping DC stocked with super strong construction/demolition workers for their clean up operations but who have lots of skeletons in their closet regarding how many 'volunteers' have been horribly mutilated and/or killed by the power-up process, not to mention that they've been known to supply super-villains and other criminal organizations with super powered henchmen. It would also serve to set up a way by which many more powered characters could show up in the MCU, should they need that to happen.

 

[Shakel92]

Did you guys see this:

http://peeltheorange.net/2015/09/15...on-knight-punisher-deathlok-and-spider-woman/

Wow. Not sure how legit it is, but it sounds awesome.

2015: Daredevil & Jessica Jones
2016: Daredevil season 2, Luke Cage and probably Iron Fist
2017: The Defenders
2018: Moon Knight & The Punisher
2019: Deathlok & Spider-Woman

I'm sure that second seasons will be ordered for Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist, as well as a third season of Daredevil. The number of viewers will be sky high. Hopefully the shows will be good as well, although I doubt anything will ever surpass the excellence of DD Season 1, kinda like how THERE WAS NO WAY Avengers 2 would be as good as Avengers 1 (even though A2 was still pretty awesome).

 

[kedrell]

As I said before, I'd be surprised if IF and LC both got individual 2nd seasons rather than simply spinning them off into a H4H series. Deathlok I know so little about so I don't know what kind of material would go into a series about him. Spider-Woman would be cool to see, then we could get her backstory with Hydra and such. I know zip about Moon Knight other than him having several personalities and being crazy and such, but it sounds interesting. And a Punisher series is the ultimate no-brainer.

 

[Hypestyle]

I hope some kind of announcement comes before the end of the year.

 

[cleverusername8]

A Deathlok series seems a little odd seeing how he's had a sizable role in the Agents of SHIELD plot. I would think they'd just find more ways to integrate him into that show rather than having to carve out a whole new supporting cast for him to carry with him in his own show. Maybe it's because of the whole Inhuman thing that they want to turn the attention away from him and the whole HYDRA thing.

Spider Woman is a surprise but could be very cool.

I agree that Moon Knight and Punisher are no brainer series.

 

[marcvader]

Moon Knight, give it to me now, nuff said.

 

[ernesth100]

I'd really like to see them explore the multiple personality aspect of Moon Knight when he gets a series, or if he's introduced in another series.

 

[pixen]

I'd love to see a Moon Knight show but probably wouldn't even watch a teaser for a Deathlok show. I'd prefer to see more female driven shows like Elektra or Spider-Woman.

 

[The_Manhunter]

Did you guys see this:

http://peeltheorange.net/2015/09/15...on-knight-punisher-deathlok-and-spider-woman/

Wow. Not sure how legit it is, but it sounds awesome.

2015: Daredevil & Jessica Jones
2016: Daredevil season 2, Luke Cage and probably Iron Fist
2017: The Defenders
2018: Moon Knight & The Punisher
2019: Deathlok & Spider-Woman

I'm sure that second seasons will be ordered for Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist, as well as a third season of Daredevil. The number of viewers will be sky high. Hopefully the shows will be good as well, although I doubt anything will ever surpass the excellence of DD Season 1, kinda like how THERE WAS NO WAY Avengers 2 would be as good as Avengers 1 (even though A2 was still pretty awesome).

Sounds awesome.

 

[Dasher10]

Sounds awesome.

Not sure if true but Umberto Gonzelez recently said that Moon Knight is coming.

I'm really not sure about the Spider-Woman part since A. Fox owns Viper, B. this might need Sony's approval and C. if Marvel can get Sony's approval and the rights to Viper, it would make more sense to use Silver Sable.

I'm also iffy about Marvel using Deathlok as opposed to Elektra since the latter has more source material to draw from. I'd also swap out the late John Garrett for Deathlok in an Elektra Season 1 since he'd still be present and make the villain the President of the United States who's secretly an agent for The Hand.

Remember, Wind like the air, not Wind like a toy.

 

[Dasher10]

And even if Marvel could do Silver Sable, I'd still rather see Blade. Blade is kind of made for TV since we still haven't seen a comic accurate version which can't be done on film. We'd need a TV show to get the shifting perspective between Blade and Dracula.

 

[Hypestyle]

I guess this may have to wait until after Ridley finishes the L.A. Riots film? We'll see.

 

[rogue trooper]

I've been thinking it could be fun if there was another team apart form The Defenders that would be formed. It would include Spider-Woman, Moon Knight, Morbius, Tigra, Deathlok, and Shang-Chi(notice they're all Bronze Age comics-era characters).

 

[redlion2]

Yeah, put me down for a Moon Knight series on Netflix. The biggest problem for me, is the fact that there are so many Marvel projects I would love to see. Cloak and Dagger, Midnight Sons (a Marvel style version of Penny Dreadful) and of course a New Warriors series just to name a few.

 

[Yowza]

I think Marvel is getting ahead of themselves with too many series. I mean they have 4 (unless Iron Fist becomes cancelled and surplanted by 2nd seasons of course) on Netflix and 2 on ABC with 2 more in planning stages. I think they just need to have separate universes at some point.

I think they should allow certain properties to be developed by another studio (certain stipulations in place like recurring rights issues, ect.) if they don't have room for them at Marvel studios. Just saying it gets to be more than 1 company can handle at some point...

 

[redlion2]

Quite frankly, I wish there were more Marvel Shows on tv. I'd watch a different Marvel series everyday of the week, if it were good.

 

[Shakel92]

Quite frankly, I wish there were more Marvel Shows on tv. I'd watch a different Marvel series everyday of the week, if it were good.

I wouldn't mind 2 or 3 a week.

 

[Hypestyle]

there should be a lot more Netflix series if all else fails.

 

[BarryAllen]

As I said before, I'd be surprised if IF and LC both got individual 2nd seasons rather than simply spinning them off into a H4H series. Deathlok I know so little about so I don't know what kind of material would go into a series about him. Spider-Woman would be cool to see, then we could get her backstory with Hydra and such. I know zip about Moon Knight other than him having several personalities and being crazy and such, but it sounds interesting. And a Punisher series is the ultimate no-brainer.

Hell no. I hope they keep Iron Fist and Luke Cage as having their own solo series. They have so much unique stories to tell that cutting it off for someone like Punisher (who already has multiple chances at live action, and as far as story-telling goes doesn't really break new ground in this day and age while IF and LC have no competitors in their market currently).

I highly doubt we are going to get a H4H series. Jessica Jones is already a private investigator for hire, and having the Defenders makes the H4H redundant.

 

[TheVileOne]

Did you guys see this:

http://peeltheorange.net/2015/09/15...on-knight-punisher-deathlok-and-spider-woman/

Wow. Not sure how legit it is, but it sounds awesome.

2015: Daredevil & Jessica Jones
2016: Daredevil season 2, Luke Cage and probably Iron Fist
2017: The Defenders
2018: Moon Knight & The Punisher
2019: Deathlok & Spider-Woman

I'm sure that second seasons will be ordered for Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist, as well as a third season of Daredevil. The number of viewers will be sky high. Hopefully the shows will be good as well, although I doubt anything will ever surpass the excellence of DD Season 1, kinda like how THERE WAS NO WAY Avengers 2 would be as good as Avengers 1 (even though A2 was still pretty awesome).

There's no chance Iron Fist can make 2016 at this point. No showrunner. No lead. Nothing going on at the moment.

 

[Mike Murdock]

They've been taking, what? Nine months or so to film? I think it's certainly plausible for a November of December release. Although I have no expectations - it'll be done when it's done.