Marvel's Black & Minority Characters: Roundtable Discussion

[mwm1331]

On the surface it may seem that way but honestly these days white racism is secretive thing....It's still there and strong as ever, it's just no boldly displayed unless some specific hate group is involved. Here in the states there have been photos leaked of seceret parties being held during MLK day and Black history month where white college students dress up in Black face as African American Stereotypes, and there's been a rise of KKK activity in recent years.....Black Americans are just more vocal and open with their racism (in some ways) than White Americans are.

One party, on one campus. And if you have been to a college campus lately and seen its dictatorial politcal correctness you'd understad why I think it was more backlash than anything else. Even if everyone at that party were truly Klux materieal, the fact that frat boys are ***** and frat girls are *****es isn't much of a surprise. You have any idea how often the "white accent" is making fun of whites? Or How often black performers and comedians dress up in "white face"?
Hell I can think of a tleast three to four movies in the last ten years.
The fact is "white racism" barely exists. "Black racism" on the other hand is more prevalent that white racism was when blacks were still slaves.


Oh and BTW, At least whites don't have "ni**er day" on MLK day.
Blacks do have "cracker day"
Which is worse, beating the **** out of a kid becasue hes white, or wearing blackface?

 

[La The Darkman]

One party, on one campus. And if you have been to a college campus lately and seen its dictatorial politcal correctness you'd understad why I think it was more backlash than anything else. Even if everyone at that party were truly Klux materieal, the fact that frat boys are ***** and frat girls are *****es isn't much of a surprise. You have any idea how often the "white accent" is making fun of whites? Or How often black performers and comedians dress up in "white face"?
Hell I can think of a tleast three to four movies in the last ten years.
The fact is "white racism" barely exists. "Black racism" on the other hand is more prevalent that white racism was when blacks were still slaves.

It was on multiple campuses and it didn't always involve frats, this has been happening on campuses all across the country, most recently on a college campus where I live. I'm not the overly politically correct type myself and I'm all for a bit of poking fun, but the stuff going on at those parties was downright offensive, so much so that they made sure blacks were not present and they held the party in secret...and that last statment is the most ignorant thing I've seen posted on this message board.

Oh and BTW, At least whites don't have "ni**er day" on MLK day.Blacks do have "cracker day"Which is worse, beating the **** out of a kid becasue hes white, or wearing blackface?

I've been black my entire life and i've never heard of "cracker day".....The white people and black people in America are equally racist, black people are just more vocal about it while it seems most white racist today try and hide the fact that they are.

 

[mwm1331]

It was one multiple campuses and it didn't always involve frats, this has been happening it's happend all across the country, most recently on MY college campus. I'm not the overly politically correct type myself and I'm all for a bit of poking fun, but the stuff going on at those parties was downright offensive, so much so that they made sure black were not present and they held the party in secret...and that last statment is the most ignorant thing I've seen posted on this message board.

Sure thing there darkman. Face it WHites have for the most part beaten racism, blacks revel in it.

I've been black my entire life and i've never heard of "cracker day".....The white people and black people in America are equally racist, black people are just more vocal about it while it seems most white racist today try and hide the fact that they are.

I grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood and had to deal with it every ****ing year.
I even have the medical records to prove it.

 

[La The Darkman]

Sure thing there darkman. Face it WHites have for the most part beaten racism, blacks revel in it.

You must be one of those shock posters, nobody could be THAT ignorant. Saying that Black racisim is more prevelant than white racism was when blacks were still slaves is (I'm willing to bet good money) the dumbest thing said in this thread...You need to get a grip on reality.

I grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood and had to deal with it every ****ing year.
I even have the medical records to prove it.

If anyone has a chip on their shoulder it sounds like it was you...If that really happened to you i'm truely sorry for that, but don't try and make it seem like everyone in your neighborhood was beating the crap outta you on "cracker day" or whatever, it was a small group of racist jerks, and that small group of racist jerks don't represent ALL Blacks in America....So despite what you may think or whatever those jerks told you, there's no such thing as "cracker day" in the Black community, if you were Asian those punks would have be doing the same thing to you....You were the minority in that situation and they felt that was reason enough to attack you....there are plenty of Blacks, Asians, and Latinos who have and will go through the same thing you did.

 

[mwm1331]

You must be one of those shock posters, nobody could be THAT ignorant. Saying that Black racisim is more prevelant than white racism was when blacks were still slaves is (I'm willing to bet good money) the dumbest thing said in this thread...You need to get a grip on reality.

The fact is even during slavery, a large percentage of white were fighting against it.
All i ever see fromt he balck community, save perhaps for a very few, is pure unadulterated racism.

If anyone has a chip on their shoulder it sounds like it was you...If that really happened to you i'm truely sorry for that, but don't try and make it seem like everyone in your neighborhood was beating the crap outta you on "cracker day" or whatever, it was a small group of racist jerks, and that small group of racist jerks don't represent ALL Blacks in America....So despite what you may think or whatever those jerks told you, there's no such thing as "cracker day" in the Black community, if you were Asian those punks would have be doing the same thing to you....You were the minority in that situation and they felt that was reason enough to attack you....there are plenty of Blacks, Asians, and Latinos who have and will go through the same thing you did.

NO actually they wouldn't. And didn't. And no it wasn't a small minority, it was the vast majority od them ,a dn it happened to me and the other whites I knew everyday, it just got much much worse on cracker day. Which. But really it was the idiotc racism that bothered me the most. I had several black friends, many of whom got beat up for being "cracker lovers" (sound familiar?) or for god forbid, studying, or speaking propoer english. They would also get the **** kicked out of them for "acting white" Now granted it was a very poor neighborhood so ignorance was a lot more common than in middle class neighborhoods, as is to be expected. But even among middle class black's I have seen a lot of racism. And its overt because no one ever seems to call them on it. Now maybe where you grw up it wasn't a traditon, and from what i have seen it varies, where I lived as a kid cracker day was on MLK day, when I moved as a teenager it was 4/20. But the truth is racism is far far worse on the black/white side than the white/black side.

 

[La The Darkman]

The fact is even during slavery, a large percentage of white were fighting against it.
All i ever see fromt he balck community, save perhaps for a very few, is pure unadulterated racism.

Back then a large precentage of whites were against slavery, that doesn't mean they weren't racists. If what you're saying was true the Civil Rights movement in the 60's wouldn't have been needed.

NO actually they wouldn't. And didn't. And no it wasn't a small minority, it was the vast majority od them ,a dn it happened to me and the other whites I knew everyday, it just got much much worse on cracker day. Which. But really it was the idiotc racism that bothered me the most. I had several black friends, many of whom got beat up for being "cracker lovers" (sound familiar?) or for god forbid, studying, or speaking propoer english. They would also get the **** kicked out of them for "acting white" Now granted it was a very poor neighborhood so ignorance was a lot more common than in middle class neighborhoods, as is to be expected. But even among middle class black's I have seen a lot of racism. And its overt because no one ever seems to call them on it. Now maybe where you grw up it wasn't a traditon, and from what i have seen it varies, where I lived as a kid cracker day was on MLK day, when I moved as a teenager it was 4/20. But the truth is racism is far far worse on the black/white side than the white/black side.

Wow my birthday is on "cracker day"

Everything your saying is based on YOUR experiance, you don't know what things I or other black people have been through in our lives...you're stating things as if they're facts when they're just your opinions based on your past experiances (which if are true is really sad). It just seems like you had a really bad experiance and now you're unwilling to see things any other way....it's understable but that doesn't make it right.

 

[mwm1331]

Look don't get me wrong. Im not saying all blacks are racists, but is it a majority? From what I can see yeah it is.
Whereas from whites I see very little evidence, even when we're alone that it is predominant. Maybe 5% of whites are racists, and even then in tends to be the dumbest and most ignorant.
On the other hand many many very intelligent successful blacks are hard core whitey hating racists. Now I grew up poor, even though I aint no more and i've seen many differnt sides of the track. And in my experience, theres a lot more racism comming from blacks at all social and economic levels than there is from whites. Even then its not the sterotype most people imagine. I've met for example, far more white racists in the north than in the south. But north or south, rich or poor, theres a lot of black racists out there. A LOT

 

[terry78]

I'm sorry, but I'm attempting to stifle laughter about Cracker Day.

 

[Inhuman63]

^^ Not to be offensive but that was kind of funny. I'm sorry but I have never heard of that in my life and I have been black all of my life. That is something that is just strange to me. Not to be insensitive to anyone's feelings on this subject but I really don't see a lot of blacks being racist as it is being stated. That may be from me living in New York where gentrification is taking place in a lot of predominately black areas and noone is being chased down the block or being beat up. At least no more than usual LOL. In fact, coexistance is possibly with different cultures. The New York Times had an article about Starret City and it's racial experiment. Anyway I digress, cracker day my, my, my. Will things ever end.

 

[La The Darkman]

Yeah I still can't get over the whole thing, this is the first time I've ever heard of this and i'm sure others will say the same....I've never even seen a black person under the age of 50 in a non stand-up comedy setting use the term "cracka" before.

 

[mwm1331]

Yeah I still can't get over the whole thing, this is the first time I've ever heard of this and i'm sure others will say the same....I've never even seen a black person under the age of 50 in a non stand-up comedy setting use the term "cracka" before.

You're kididng?
Its used constanly down here. (florida, sepcifically South Miami) of course since I lived ther most of ther blacks, and whites have moved to broward county (fort lauderale)

 

[Varient]

One party, on one campus. And if you have been to a college campus lately and seen its dictatorial politcal correctness you'd understad why I think it was more backlash than anything else. Even if everyone at that party were truly Klux materieal, the fact that frat boys are ***** and frat girls are *****es isn't much of a surprise. You have any idea how often the "white accent" is making fun of whites? Or How often black performers and comedians dress up in "white face"?
Hell I can think of a tleast three to four movies in the last ten years.
The fact is "white racism" barely exists. "Black racism" on the other hand is more prevalent that white racism was when blacks were still slaves.


Oh and BTW, At least whites don't have "ni**er day" on MLK day.
Blacks do have "cracker day"
Which is worse, beating the **** out of a kid becasue hes white, or wearing blackface?

Scary,... Continuing to read along as someone who's not in the mix explain it,.. but still having no real urge to step in and start deflating ego's.

You guys need to step away from this.

V.

 

[La The Darkman]

You're kididng?
Its used constanly down here. (florida, sepcifically South Miami) of course since I lived ther most of ther blacks, and whites have moved to broward county (fort lauderale)

No I'm not.....I hear the term "white boy" alot sadly but not "cracka".

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You're kididng?
Its used constanly down here. (florida, sepcifically South Miami) of course since I lived ther most of ther blacks, and whites have moved to broward county (fort lauderale)

dude well its very apparent from the reaction you've made, that its not like that in most other places in the US.... just another example of people only knowing what they see or experiencing in there environment...

 

[necross20]

Guys, just to remind you. The guy who started this thread requested that it not turn into a free for all.

 

[Varient]

I'm going home so I'm gonna comment and leave.


Blacks make up less than one fifth of the population in the US, with the split along gender lines almost 60/40 with their being more women.

At LESS than 15% of the population,.. to say that blacks are more racist :

with more going to jail by both proportion and actual numbers for "crimes" than whites in the same situations,

more Blacks being shot or killed by law enforcement for the flimsiest of excuses, and

more blacks living below the poverty line by proportion of the population,

Add on the documented inate racism that was the part of what brought about affirmative action - the "seperate but equal" nonsense that had whites working and living with the same education as blacks at an estimated 25 to 85% difference in pay.

Where UNTIL THE 80's blacks were OPENLY REDLINED and Black-listed by Whites in areas that preventerd then to easily own property, buy homes or even GO TO THE SCHOOL OF thier choice,...

Racism is not just being vocal about your dislike for others.

I was forced to embarrass a white family who wanted to punish my son for noticing their white daughter. They wanted to make an example of him and label him for life as a sex offender at 17 years of age because the daughter and her friends said he acted innapropiately.
All that saved my son was the fact that the girl in question had filled three pages on my space.com about what kinda girl she was and what she wanted from my son,...

Her parents found out through the school councelors that their daughter drank, did drugs and had been screwing a slew of white boys prior to my son being dragged up for being a criminal.

All charges (which were based on the words of three teenaged white girls) were dropped and the girl was yanked out of school.

All that to say,.. that is an example of what Blacks for the most part live with everyday,.. the guilty until proven innocent routine that they face from too many whites DAILY.

You don't have to curse me using your mouth,.. you do it when you cut your eyes at me and suddenly change direction,.. you do it when you decide that I'm not "right for the job" even though I have proven I am much better than the white you'll have to train to do the job I could do cold, .. you do it when you follow me around in a place you don't think I belong to make sure I don't do wrong,.. you do it when you justify mlk day parties that have NO BLACK PEOPLE PRESENT as "harmless fun".

Bottom line: If you are white and believe that"whites are past racism and blacks somehow promote it"

I have to say you are uninformed and need to expand your circle of friends.

Peace.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

 

[Tropico]

Maybe 5% of whites are racists, and even then in tends to be the dumbest and most ignorant.

I don't live in the US and even I know that statement is totally bogus. Most of my family lives in Florida and I can tell you that the percentage is WAY more than 5%. And that a lot of times "smart" people are worse than "dumb" people because they think they know more and hold "the truth". And I won't even factor in the amount of old people that live in Florida who were raised in a time were segregation and racism were common and to them it's normal. It was part of their upbringing so it's ingrained and very few of them change their views about blacks.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

mwm1331:

No offense but...your comments in this thread are coming across incredibly naive and...well, misinformed. Upon what are you basing them? I think you need to start bring some website links to stats from reputable sources if you're going to start breaking down "majorities of blacks do this" and "5% of whites do that". I doubt such "statistics" even exist--at least not to speak for either culture in its entirety.

And without such hard evidence I'm afraid your argument falls flat.

 

[Anubis]

I'd chalk it up to bitterness over his f**ked up childhood. "Cracka Day". Wow.

 

[T'Jai]

lol yeah I'm trying to leave him alone people have a tendency to implode when I start in on them

 

[Anubis]

You see, the thing is, it's not neccesarily a race thing. It's a human thing. The Majority will always take advantage of the minority. Be you the only black guy in an all white neighborhood, or the only white guy in an all black neighborhood, you're gonna get some s**t. People tend to hate things that are different. It's just part of human nature. We're all A-holes. Every single one of us. It's the one thing that we all have in common.

 

[T'Jai]

too true, but it's easier to blame them all ...and it's a learned defense mechanism. The current (popular) hip hop boom and media attitudes don't help any

 

[Varient]

You see, the thing is, it's not neccesarily a race thing. It's a human thing. The Majority will always take advantage of the minority. Be you the only black guy in an all white neighborhood, or the only white guy in an all black neighborhood, you're gonna get some s**t. People tend to hate things that are different. It's just part of human nature. We're all A-holes. Every single one of us. It's the one thing that we all have in common.

Well,....................

I'm the exception,... I won't hate you for being different,.... I'll hate you for treatment because I'm different.

So of course that upgrades me from "A-hole" status to A-nal retentive.

 

[terry78]

How many times have you been the only white guy in an all black/latino/asian environment, except by choice? Granted there are occasions when they're the only kid at an all black school or something, but I think the scenario of being the only minority in an all white setting in society is more prevalent, mostly in school or work.