Maybe starting a band.

[Fried Gold]

Bull****. Part of being a good frontman is being able to READ your audience and respond accordingly. You're going to have to do alot of things on the fly ie. change your set list to suit the audience, things of that nature. Your ART is only going to get exposed to people if you have an audience. If you wanna get nowhere real ****ing fast, then by all means, **** the people who are there to see you.

Who said that being in a band is about getting anywhere? It's about hanging out with your friends and having a nice time, not sweating over if the audience will like song a followed by song b. Of course if you're in small roiom with a handful of individuals sat at table drinking wine, then you should play a quieter set, but that's not 'reading the audience'... it's common sense. You may not like it, but that's how we do it, and it's working just fine, thank you. There are alternatives to brown nosing your way to popularity. I'm not saying that you should treat the audience with disdain, as yeah, they have paid some cash to see you, but what I'm saying is that you shouldn't be comrpomising your art based upon the facial expressions of a handful of strangers

 

[guitarsingerguy]

compromise.

See what audiences like and then adapting it to your own style?

Look man, I'm not telling you to completely ignore what you want to do, but Fried Gold is telling you "**** the audience". Not everyone takes music that seriously. Yes, the few people that really get what you're trying to do are very important, but honestly thinking you should ignore the "average" fan is ****ing just stupid. Who do you think there will be more of? The artsy ****s that "get you" or the average people who just enjoy what you do? Average audience members will be 100 to 1 and the more of those you have the more likely you're going to get to more people that do really appreciate what you do. You NEED your audience. Without an audience you have NOTHING. That's why THIS IS A BUSINESS. A bar hires you to bring in people to buy drinks. They don't give a **** about your music. So you bring in a ****load of people to drink and you get hired back. The more you play there, the more fans you get, both people that get you as well as people who just enjoy the scene.

 

[Fried Gold]

Look man, I'm not telling you to completely ignore what you want to do, but Fried Gold is telling you "**** the audience". Not everyone takes music that seriously.

BELM we couldn't take music any less seriously, which is why we're not that arsed about a crowd of thousands piling in to see us because we care about them.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Who said that being in a band is about getting anywhere? It's about hanging out with your friends and having a nice time, not sweating over if the audience will like song a followed by song b. Of course if you're in small roiom with a handful of individuals sat at table drinking wine, then you should play a quieter set, but that's not 'reading the audience'... it's common sense. You may not like it, but that's how we do it, and it's working just fine, thank you. There are alternatives to brown nosing your way to popularity. I'm not saying that you should treat the audience with disdain, as yeah, they have paid some cash to see you, but what I'm saying is that you shouldn't be comrpomising your art based upon the facial expressions of a handful of strangers

Every time you ****ing type, I realize what a tool you really are. It's pretty clear to me that you don't know **** about **** when it comes to this business. You ask any artist in any form if they've ever had to compromise their "art" in any way. It's a fact of life. Grow up and deal with it.

 

[Fried Gold]

That's why THIS IS A BUSINESS.

You are aware that that's BAD though, right?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

BELM we couldn't take music any less seriously, which is why we're not that arsed about a crowd of thousands piling in to see us because we care about them.

HAHAHA. This is the sorta **** that kills me. You preach about art and how you shouldn't compromise your vision, but you're telling me you don't take it seriously? You're nothing but a walking contradiction. Look Tangled, if you want anymore advice, I'll be more then happy to take it to PMs. Reading this guy's bull**** is making my head hurt.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

You are aware that that's BAD though, right?

No it isn't. It seems to be "cool" for the kids that don't have a clue to think so, but no...it sure isn't. It can work in your favor just as much as it can work against you.

 

[Fried Gold]

HAHAHA. This is the sorta **** that kills me. You preach about art and how you shouldn't compromise your vision, but you're telling me you don't take it seriously? You're nothing but a walking contradiction. Look Tangled, if you want anymore advice, I'll be more then happy to take it to PMs. Reading this guy's bull**** is making my head hurt.

Are you actually ******ed? The two aren't muctually exclusive; you can enjoy yourself, create the music you want to hear and perform and appreciate when people may say nice things about you without treating the whole thing like a business, ie. seriously

This guy is trying to start a nice little band to pass time after school, and you're trying to drill the idea into him that it's a massively serious thing that demands 110% ALL THE TIME, and that the audience is the MOST IMPORTANT THING LOLOLOZZ!!.

Whatever happened to hanging out with friends and having a nice time?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Are you actually ******ed? The two aren't muctually exclusive; you can enjoy yourself, create the music you want to hear and perform and appreciate when people may say nice things about you without treating the whole thing like a business, ie. seriously

If you play birthday party house shows until you're blue in the face, then I guess you're right.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Are you actually ******ed? The two aren't muctually exclusive; you can enjoy yourself, create the music you want to hear and perform and appreciate when people may say nice things about you without treating the whole thing like a business, ie. seriously

This guy is trying to start a nice little band to pass time after school, and you're trying to drill the idea into him that it's a massively serious thing that demands 110% ALL THE TIME, and that the audience is the MOST IMPORTANT THING LOLOLOZZ!!.

Whatever happened to hanging out with friends and having a nice time?

When did he ****ing say that? Point that out to me because I believe that's an assumption on your part. If you want the truth, you're naive. Sadly, you seem to think that an audience doesn't mean ****. That's just some ******ed ass school of thought.

 

[Fried Gold]

When did he ****ing say that? Point that out to me because I believe that's an assumption on your part.

Here. Unlucky.

2. Just a side thing what with school. I'll see where it takes us after.

Sadly, you seem to think that an audience doesn't mean ****. That's just some ******ed ass school of thought.

Why is it? We like playing and recording the music that we want to hear. That's how WE do it, and it works. If we wanted to be a soulless machine who yearn to be adored by as many businessmen as possible, we'd, oh I don't know, form a covers band.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Here.

Fair enough. It still doesn't change the fact that you're completely naive about the situation. Tangled, as I said, if you'd like any more "real world" advise on the situation, then just let me know, but DO NOT let anyone convince you that your audience is unimportant. They aren't more important then what you're trying to do with your art, but they sure as hell aren't less important either. If you offer a good product, then they'll come hand in hand.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Why is it? We like playing and recording the music that we want to hear. That's how WE do it, and it works. If we wanted to be a soulless machine who yearn to be adored by as many businessmen as possible, we'd, oh I don't know, form a covers band.

You ****ing crack me up man. Are you even reading the same **** that I'm writing or do you have some kind of ****ed up translator? Anyway, we're getting nowhere fast, so let's just leave it be. I concede defeat to you oh dear arteest and I being the "corporate machine" bow to your "art".

 

[Fried Gold]

Fair enough. It still doesn't change the fact that you're completely naive about the situation.

LOL sure man, whatever you say.

 

[Fried Gold]

You ****ing crack me up man. Are you even reading the same **** that I'm writing or do you have some kind of ****ed up translator? Anyway, we're getting nowhere fast, so let's just leave it be. I concede defeat to you oh dear arteest and I being the "corporate machine" bow to your "art".

VICTORY!

 

[guitarsingerguy]

VICTORY!

Awww damn, you edited.

 

[Fried Gold]

Awww damn, you edited.

Heh, I think it would've been too low, even for me.

 

[Tangled Web]

ok ok ok. Back to some technical stuff.

So for you guys who have been in a band, when recording; how much of it is done together and how much of it is recorded seperatley?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

ok ok ok. Back to some technical stuff.

So for you guys who have been in a band, when recording; how much of it is done together and how much of it is recorded seperatley?

I've always done everything seperately.

 

[Tangled Web]

I've always done everything seperately.

Yeah that's been what I'm suggesting we do.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah that's been what I'm suggesting we do.

Has your drummer ever recorded before and are you planning on using a click track?

 

[Asteroid-Man]

how's your little screamo band coming along?

 

[Dwarf lord]

ok ok ok. Back to some technical stuff.

So for you guys who have been in a band, when recording; how much of it is done together and how much of it is recorded seperatley?

It's a preference thing. I always prefer all at once, because I like the frantic live feel. The White Stripes I believe do the same. The only problem is that you need good equipment to clean it up.

Another suggestion is to do the rhythm section seperate first. Then allow the lead guitarist(s) listen to the recording while playing their lead part. Then do each of the other instruments (keyboard, Harmonica, ect) to do their own recording while listening to the recording of all of them put together. Then allow the singer to listen to the full instrumental while singing his or her part.

It's all a preference thing.

 

[punishermax]

Cool band Lumberjack, you guys sound good.

 

[Fried Gold]

ok ok ok. Back to some technical stuff.

So for you guys who have been in a band, when recording; how much of it is done together and how much of it is recorded seperatley?

If you want maximum control when it comes to mixing, then you should record everything seperately. However, we've had fairly successful results recording the drums and the bass at the same time. We've even recorded everything at the same time on a few occassions, which definitely gives the tracks a 'live' feel.