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[Billy the Poet]

Actually, the whole "Gwen knowing" thing, might have a better chance of working, rather than not.

According to Emma, Gwen's story is that she's always been "Daddy's little girl" and when she meets Peter, she finds that she wants to leave her Dad's grasp, with Peter as the new man in her life. If Gwen knows, but her father doesn't...that would add to Gwen's "breaking away." I think it could work. Plus, Batman Begins and TDK both worked with the love interest knowing the heroes identity.

She did state that? This gives away a lot about her character in this film, then. I actually dig the whole concept. Despite her background and stable relationship with parents, she still wants and dares to be with Peter, an outsider. But, once her father dies, she feels both blame on her for disobedience and blame on Peter for his powers that didn't stop the death. Besides, she may even believe Peter was biased in saving Connors over George, because:

1) Geroge Stacy may appear to disapprove Peter as a person
2) He is the one to lead police against Spider-Man

These give enough reasons for Gwen to initially believe that Peter is indirectly responsible for the outcome.

 

[TheSlag]

Gwen knowing Peter's identity will likely mean they're avoiding the damsel in distress route (aside from when Goblin comes into play).

And if you think the death of Gwen Stacy is widely known among audience members, you need to think a little bit more about the GA. I'm willing to bet 75% of people who see this movie won't even know who Gwen Stacy is, never mind that she was killed by the Green Goblin.

You could be right, I may be giving the GA more credit than they deserve. I was just thinking people might be googling Gwen Stacy since there is no MJ in ASM so far, and since Spider-Man IMO is a popular movie franchise. And as such, googling, a lot of times the Night Gwen Stacy Died would probably come up in those searches.

But again, prob the majority of the GA will not google.. will just go and see the movie period. Hopefully.

 

[TheSlag]

I see your point, but it all depends on what role they will give Gwen. Will she be a jealous and selfish kind of girlfriend that is always to be saved from something like MJ? Or will she be a caring and supporting girlfriend like what we've rarely seen on the screen?

I believe that the facts that she knows Peter is Spider-Man and that her death is yet to come barely have any adverse effect on how their relationship will progress. Besides, even if Gwen still knows Peter's secret, it shouldn't stop her from blaming him to, despite all his powers, save her father from dying. I mean Peter and Gwen obviously come from different backgrounds. Gwen was raised in a complete and stable family in a good looking house. They can imply that she is a good daughter that really depends (emotionally especially) on her parents. Whereas, Peter became an orphan, who never had anotehr chance to see his parents and who was raised in a lower-middle class family with caring uncle and aunt. In this film he resembles more sort of a rebelious type of an outsider, which only marks his destinction from Gwen. Yet, this shouldn't stop them from emotionally connecting with each other.

That definitely could be interesting... Gwen still blaming Peter/Spider-Man for her father's death. But I always kind of liked the ying and yang of Loving Peter while despising Spider-Man.

But, I can see potential both ways. Gonna be interesting to see which way it plays out. It's a great time to be a Spider-Man fan.

 

[TheSlag]

Actually, the whole "Gwen knowing" thing, might have a better chance of working, rather than not.

According to Emma, Gwen's story is that she's always been "Daddy's little girl" and when she meets Peter, she finds that she wants to leave her Dad's grasp, with Peter as the new man in her life. If Gwen knows, but her father doesn't...that would add to Gwen's "breaking away." I think it could work. Plus, Batman Begins and TDK both worked with the love interest knowing the heroes identity.

Do you have a link for this? Not saying I do not believe you, I would just love to read the entire article (assuming there is more to it that is). That is an interesting approach, and one I kinda like as I see it playing more to blaming Spider-Man (and possibly Peter assuming she knows his identity) for the death of her beloved father.

And man, I hope Gwen has lost her mother already too... plays out better to me IF Capt Stacy is her only living parent.

 

[Mr : Parker]

when the goblin kills gwen , i remember it was in the early days of spidey , when he dont know how al his powers work , the goblin throws gwen off the bridge , spidey tries to save her , and with his web he catch her , just to snap her neck , so actualy he kills gwen


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it was something like that , if i do remember corectly

sorry for the bad english

grts yves

 

[Billy the Poet]

That definitely could be interesting... Gwen still blaming Peter/Spider-Man for her father's death. But I always kind of liked the ying and yang of Loving Peter while despising Spider-Man.

But, I can see potential both ways. Gonna be interesting to see which way it plays out. It's a great time to be a Spider-Man fan.

Here's the hope they will handle it right.

Indeed it is

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Actually, the whole "Gwen knowing" thing, might have a better chance of working, rather than not.

According to Emma, Gwen's story is that she's always been "Daddy's little girl" and when she meets Peter, she finds that she wants to leave her Dad's grasp, with Peter as the new man in her life. If Gwen knows, but her father doesn't...that would add to Gwen's "breaking away." I think it could work. Plus, Batman Begins and TDK both worked with the love interest knowing the heroes identity.

Well, in the comics, Gwen still held her father as one of the closest people she could go ot. Obviously, that's oen of the reasons she despised Spider-Man after her father died. I jst hoep some of this is incorporated into the film.

 

[Billy the Poet]

I'm really looking forward to seeing how it all goes with the developing conflict between Peter, Gwen and George.

It is also a pretty faithful approach, considering that in the original comics Peter and Stacy didn't get along so well and even had fight, after which Gwen's relationships with both took a different turn.

Correct me if I'm wrong, SMH12

 

[socool]

Do you have a link for this? Not saying I do not believe you, I would just love to read the entire article (assuming there is more to it that is). That is an interesting approach, and one I kinda like as I see it playing more to blaming Spider-Man (and possibly Peter assuming she knows his identity) for the death of her beloved father.

And man, I hope Gwen has lost her mother already too... plays out better to me IF Capt Stacy is her only living parent.

Well, this isn't the same article. But it states most of it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/29/emma-stone-on-gwen-stacy-amazing-spider-man_n_913055.html

I can keep looking

 

[ITheSymbioteI]

I hope it does happen. But I'm also hoping this series isn't going to be the cliche trilogy only thing.

She could die in the 3rd movie, ending with a dark and somber tone, and the 4th movie could be Peter finally dealing with moving on and the ending could be more hopeful.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I'm not so sure we are going to get the "Gwen blames Peter for the death of her father". I think she will eventually dislike how Peter put people in harms way when battling villains, but she know Peter has good intentions, and that will stick with him when Gwen dies, and maybe the reason he, for a while, never tells MJ his secret.

 

[Troy_Parker]

I want this franchise to last at least 4 movies.

Without ending on a sad note like S-M 3. :\

 

[TheSlag]

when the goblin kills gwen , i remember it was in the early days of spidey , when he dont know how al his powers work , the goblin throws gwen off the bridge , spidey tries to save her , and with his web he catch her , just to snap her neck , so actualy he kills gwen


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it was something like that , if i do remember corectly

sorry for the bad english

grts yves

Yes but the premise is whether Gwen was already dead before the Snap.

It's such an interesting story, not only for the impact of her death at the hands of the Goblin, but with the snap it calls into question if Spidey could of actually killed her. And what options he had given the circumstances.

Obviously she would of died from the fall... could he of reacted quicker allowing him time to more "gently" catch her?

I like that they leave it open myself.

 

[TheSlag]

Well, this isn't the same article. But it states most of it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/29/emma-stone-on-gwen-stacy-amazing-spider-man_n_913055.html

I can keep looking

Thanks! I always figured they would play off the stable home/father that Gwen has vs. the less than stable environment Pete had. I still hope there is NO Mama Stacy... makes the Captain's death that much more tragic to Gwen.

And I DEFINITELY hope that Gwen's holds Spidey responsible.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yes but the premise is whether Gwen was already dead before the Snap.

It's such an interesting story, not only for the impact of her death at the hands of the Goblin, but with the snap it calls into question if Spidey could of actually killed her. And what options he had given the circumstances.

Obviously she would of died from the fall... could he of reacted quicker allowing him time to more "gently" catch her?

I like that they leave it open myself.

Finally something we can agree on.

 

[©KAW]

That fall will NOT work on film. By the force of gravity alone the webline would have smashed her into the side of the bridge or the G-force would have ripped off her damn leg (either way a blood mess she would be). Iconic, but it's simply too comic booky in its execution. It's gonna need some reworking that's for damn sure.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ That's not true. Look at what Bungie jumpers do.

 

[socool]

That fall will NOT work on film. By the force of gravity alone the webline would have smashed her into the side of the bridge or the G-force would have ripped off her damn leg (either way a blood mess she would be). Iconic, but it's simply too comic booky in its execution. It's gonna need some reworking that's for damn sure.

You party pooper. Look at bungie jumpers.

EDIT: SMH12 beat me to it.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I just don't see how it isn't possible.

 

[©KAW]

True, but look at the scene carefully, it's not the part of the bridge where a bungie jumper would leap. There's a wall there, if she doesn't loose a leg (depending on the web's elasticity) she would be smashed on the side of that wall. Just imagine looking at her when Spidey finally brings her to the top.

 

[socool]

True, but look at the scene carefully, it's not the part of the bridge where a bungie jumper would leap. There's a wall there, if she doesn't loose a leg (depending on the web's elasticity) she would be smashed on the side of that wall. Just imagine looking at her when Spidey finally brings her to the top.

No, I realize what you're saying. If they really are worried about this scene, couldn't they just drop her off in the center of the bridge, where there is no wall? It's not too difficult of a problem to overcome. It's not really a problem at all. Does it really matter if they keep it the same? Will it really kill the movie?

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Agreed.

 

[Spider-Who?]

True, but look at the scene carefully, it's not the part of the bridge where a bungie jumper would leap. There's a wall there, if she doesn't loose a leg (depending on the web's elasticity) she would be smashed on the side of that wall. Just imagine looking at her when Spidey finally brings her to the top.

i see what youre saying, but its not that cut and dry. It all depends on the angle of the arc of her fall, as well as the angle Spidey shoots his webs and how he reacts to counter any swinging. Yes, depending on these things, she COULD swing and smack right into the wall, but she could also swing parallel to it as well. Also, as others have said, look at bungee jumpers. If Gwen’s trajectory is similar to that of a bungee jump (a more shallow arc that evens out quickly – which the drawing suggests), and the web catches her after her fall becomes more acute, then its safe to assume that the “bounce” would be more vertical than horizontal (like a bungee) as well. Of course, there is going to be some amount of swinging involved which could cause a face plant, but Spidey “could” lessen that, and/or they could have the location of the fall not take place by a wall. In short, her “face plant” you describe is possible, but avoidable. And really, I find this to be one of the least-worrisome things in terms of suspension of belief.

 

[©KAW]

No, I realize what you're saying. If they really are worried about this scene, couldn't they just drop her off in the center of the bridge, where there is no wall? It's not too difficult of a problem to overcome. It's not really a problem at all. Does it really matter if they keep it the same? Will it really kill the movie?

Problem solved.

My point is with that particular scene, if they're going to do it, it has to look realistic. If it looks cartoony, that entire iconic scene will be a waste.

 

[Spidermatrix53]

I think it would be interesting to have Peter be unsure as to who's fault it is himself. Have a movie or so where he comes to terms with the fact that he may be responsible for her death.