The Amazing Spider-Man maybe

©KAW;21219363 said:
So, fans will be pissed off, I'm a master of that. But it doesn't mean Green Goblin will be in this trilogy because we're pissed off.

Then how strong is Curt Conners being Peter's teacher in two movies and no Lizard. Is that a strong enough connection for you?

I'm not saying I don't want Norman Osborn, Green Goblin or The Death of Gwen Stacy in ASMIII, because I do. I'm just saying there's also a chance that you won't get it in this trilogy.

There's no argument that you're a master of pissing people off.

What I'm saying is, after the backlash the studios and the director, etc, got after making poor decisions such as that in the previous trilogy, why would they make the same mistake/s all over again?
 
I'm not saying the Green Goblin will DEFO be in Webb's Spider-Man, but certain signs are leaning towards the fact that he will, eventually.
 
And don't you guys forget that in the movie there will be that proto goblin guy, if he transforms or not his character is a foreshadowing of the goblin
 
There's no argument that you're a master of pissing people off.
Ooh...sensitive.
What I'm saying is, after the backlash the studios and the director, etc, got after making poor decisions such as that in the previous trilogy, why would they make the same mistake/s all over again?
They won't view it as a mistake, if the director and writers had no intention of using Green Goblin in the first place or doing the Death of Gwen Stacy story. Assuming that the director just wanted to use Oscorp and maybe even Norman Osborn, still, with no intention of changing him into the Green Goblin.

This is all speculation of course, and may not be true, but it's entirely possible. The problem is, we have already written the story in our minds, and are now hell bent on the franchise going our way.
 
©KAW;21219645 said:
Ooh...sensitive.
They won't view it as a mistake, if the director and writers had no intention of using Green Goblin in the first place or doing the Death of Gwen Stacy story. Assuming that the director just wanted to use Oscorp and maybe even Norman Osborn, still, with no intention of changing him into the Green Goblin.

This is all speculation of course, and may not be true, but it's entirely possible. The problem is, we have already written the story in our minds, and are now hell bent on the franchise going our way.

Sensitive? I'm pretty sure it's a scientific fact. :o

I'm not hell bent on anything. Nor am I going to become a "hater" just because Webb doesn't introduce the Goblin. I'm pleased with everything that I've seen so far, and finding out that the Goblin eventually will be in this franchice will make that better, it would seem like a lost opportunity to not do what the previous franchise couldn't, develop Norman over the course of a movie, then have him take away Peter's first love in a later sequel. Rather than just shoe-horning in everything because the studio wants different villains in every movie to sell more toys. lol.
 
I think everyone here thinks that, but then again, everyone here was thinking we were eventually going to get The Lizard down the line, after Curt Connors was introduced in SM2.
 
I know that. It would be a lost opportunity to not have the Green Goblin at some point.
 
Perhaps, but the studio may be thinking we've already did Green Goblin (somewhat twice) and want all new villains in this trilogy. And the director may feel the same way.
 
Or the studio could be wanting to do a more darker comics-adapted Green Goblin, whether it be 616 or Ultimate.
 
©KAW;21221047 said:
Perhaps, but the studio may be thinking we've already did Green Goblin (somewhat twice) and want all new villains in this trilogy. And the director may feel the same way.

They've already done the origin, but that's not stopping them from doing it again.
 


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is this the future ?

Possibly.

I know that. It would be a lost opportunity to not have the Green Goblin at some point.

Agreed. Spider-Man without Green Goblin is like Batman without Joker.

Or the studio could be wanting to do a more darker comics-adapted Green Goblin, whether it be 616 or Ultimate.

I hope so. Willem Defoe's Green Goblin was far too campy for me. I would love to see a Green Goblin on the screen that could compete with Nolan's Joker.
 
What would be amazing is if Gwen wore black boots, a purple skirt, black shirt and a green jacket during her death scene :up:
 
They've already done the origin, but that's not stopping them from doing it again.
They're starting the franchise from scratch, so the origin had to be included, to avoid people from saying that this is a semi-SM4 movie, however, they're not repeating the VILLAIN in ASM.
 
If George Stacy isn't biting the dust this movie, I hope they have Ock in the next movie (kills Stacy like the comics) and then Goblin in the third (kills Gwen like the comics) Some people will flame me for repeating Ock and Goblin, but they are such rich characters.

Plus, Bane and Joker were repeated in the Nolan movies, so....sue me.
 
What would be amazing is if Gwen wore black boots, a purple skirt, black shirt and a green jacket during her death scene :up:

I don't know. It might be a bit too obvious for fans.

If George Stacy isn't biting the dust this movie, I hope they have Ock in the next movie (kills Stacy like the comics) and then Goblin in the third (kills Gwen like the comics) Some people will flame me for repeating Ock and Goblin, but they are such rich characters.

Plus, Bane and Joker were repeated in the Nolan movies, so....sue me.

I think that it would be best to have Gwen die in the second film, so that we get to see Peter dealing with it before the series ends.
 
The Goblin, if they use him, needs to be built up.

But I suppose it wouldn't be the end of the world if they just jumped to the Goblin...I would be slightly sad, but as long as the Goblin is shown, in all his glory, killing Gwen, I'll still squeal like a pig.
 
I meant no build-up to the character, as in no showing of Norman's loss of insanity.
 
©KAW;21219363 said:
So, fans will be pissed off, I'm a master of that. But it doesn't mean Green Goblin will be in this trilogy because we're pissed off.

Didn't you get upset that Lizard was never used? Wouldn't that make you a hypocrite if you wouldn't use Green Goblin but have Norman Osborn in the mix?
 
Green Goblin is a very important figure in Spider-Man's mythology. I see Webb being very faithful to the characters and their story arcs. I have doubts he won't use the Goblin in later films.

However, if he doesn;t, it won't be the end of the days for me. I will have nothing against that as long as I'm satisfied by the way the story is told. After all, it's always same story told differently.

Then again, Webb several times confirms the significance of Oscorp to Peter and even connected his paresnts' past with the company. He also included Van Atter, even though I don't see him turning into Proto-Goblin. There is no guarantee of that, but there good signs it will happen.

I have a good feeling Green Goblin will be in this trilogy, but what actually matters is how he will be handled this time. I would really love to have Ultimate Osborn merged with the 616 Goblin.

I also wonder why Webb linked Peter's parents with Oscorp. And here is what I think:

By connecting them with Oscorp, Webb also creates close relation to Osborn. Thus, we have Parkers connected with Osborns. If so, won't Webb go with the Ultimate route, but in a different way and turn Brocks from comics into Osborns in films. Not characters, but the connection between them. If Osborns appear in the next film (which is very likely to happen), then they'll surely become a part of Peter's life. What's interesting is that they can already be a part of his parents' lives, leading to Peter having a much more complicated conflict with Osborns. From one point he has Harry as his first friend, from another he has Norman, who wa sinvolved in the detah of his parents, even if indirectly. This puts much more stress on the way Peter will try to handle the relationships with both.

So, I can see Webb choosing to have the Goblin's serum as a cure to something that was being developed by Parkers and Osborns (and maybe even Connors, consequently). Osborn, as a businessman, decided to get rid of the couple of scientists who asked for too much and claimed the ownership of the serum. Now, Osborn is trying to finish it on his own, even if unsuccessfully. Because of his mistakes, the cure becomes the serum he takes, leading to his transformation into the Goblin. Meanwhile, Peter and Harry, initially not really getting along so well, grow to become close friends. Osborn, having learnt about that, tries to use Harry to get to Peter, the son of the people who actually created the cure.

This pretty much well combines both 616 and the Ultimate, as well as draws a line between Parkers and Osborns.

But this is just my speculation and it may have flaws, especially in the implementation of it.
 

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