Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: The Fight of the Century

[ThePhantasm]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

On a meta level, this is kind of true with the way the crowd reacted.

 

[Slushy]

Though I’d argue Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns did more in their fake match to beat each other up than either of these guys did to each other tonight.

Ha!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He's one of the very best defensive technical fighters ever. Maybe the best, at least the best of the ones I've seen (I'm mid 30s). There's noone I've seen in any of his weight classes that I would have any confidence in saying they could beat him. Just has a style that leads to less entertaining fights than some of the other top (even lesser) fighters.

Hagler and SSR. Those would be the two I think could beat him if all things were even.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I caught a russian feed of the fight. I feel bad for the folks who paid for this. Eh, I think a prime Oscar De La Hoya and Mosley would have beaten Floyd, but those two were more than long gone when their fights happen.

 

[Iceman]

Hagler and SSR. Those would be the two I think could beat him if all things were even.

I'd definitely pay to see any of these fights! I've only seen these guys in their big name fights on tape so I don't feel I know them as well as all the boxers I've watched growing up who I've seen in 20+ fights each.

 

[Doc Samson]

Those potshots were hard enough to keep Manny from wanting to run in.

Exactly. It's easy to say you'll be aggressive, but after Floyd hits their ass, they sure as hell aren't busy anymore. He must be a better puncher than they give him credit for.

 

[B]

Yeah Manny's fault he couldn't figure out what to do when an opponent runs, hugs, and pop shots his way to a win.

Good win for Mayweather but from reading other boxing forums and social media, I'm not alone in saying this was a boring weak ass fight.

Hardly the fight of the century, barely qualifies for fight of the week.

Come on man, you are sounding kinda salty regarding the fight. No it wasn't the most epic & exciting fight in history, but the only people saying Mayweather ran are casual fans & Pacquiao fanboys.

The fight I saw, Mayweather stood his ground in the majority of the fight, only moving to dodge punches. In fact that was the reason he won, because he didn't invite Manny to pressure him by constantly moving backwards.

Regardless of what boxing forums you visit are saying, Mayweather outboxed, outclassed & outsmarted Pacquiao completely nullifying him with his far superior defense, movement & punching accuracy. Those are the facts.

 

[Warhammer]

I have too many friends who aren't giving Mayweather his due. What we saw last night was not the most exciting fight, yes. The majority of people wanted to see a slobber knocker. A good chunk of people wanted to see Pacquiao knock Mayweather out. That did not happen and people feel cheated. But honestly, people got what they paid for.

Mayweather does what Mayweather does. He will stand his ground and outbox you. He made Pacquiao play to his tune and made him pay for it. He did not run. He did not fight like a coward. What we saw last night was a defensive masterclass. Mayweather may be a piece of s*** outside of the ring. He may portray himself as the villain. He may make it very easy to hate him. The fact of the matter is he is that damn good.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I think a lot of people forget that Mayweather is also not your typical 38-year old boxer at the tail-end of his career. He's a boxer that's prided himself on his defense and elusiveness, which means he's taken far fewer big shots over his career and doesn't have any deficiencies in his movements.

 

[Doc Samson]

I have too many friends who aren't giving Mayweather his due. What we saw last night was not the most exciting fight, yes. The majority of people wanted to see a slobber knocker. A good chunk of people wanted to see Pacquiao knock Mayweather out. That did not happen and people feel cheated. But honestly, people got what they paid for.

Mayweather does what Mayweather does. He will stand his ground and outbox you. He made Pacquiao play to his tune and made him pay for it. He did not run. He did not fight like a coward. What we saw last night was a defensive masterclass. Mayweather may be a piece of s*** outside of the ring. He may portray himself as the villain. He may make it very easy to hate him. The fact of the matter is he is that damn good.

100% truth. The fact is, it was up to Manny to push the envelope and make it a brawl, because that's his style and that's what he said he was gonna do. Just like everybody else says that. Until they get hit.

All that bouncing Manny does telegraphs his offense too, Floyd waited for him to set his feet and simply moved, forcing Manny to reset too. Little adjustments like that are why he's hard to hit, not because he's literally running, he was in Manny's face plenty...

 

[Iceman]

I think a lot of people forget that Mayweather is also not your typical 38-year old boxer at the tail-end of his career. He's a boxer that's prided himself on his defense and elusiveness, which means he's taken far fewer big shots over his career and doesn't have any deficiencies in his movements.

Good point.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I give Mayweather plenty of credit for being a lot quicker than Pacquiao and a much better strategist. Much more efficient with his punches too. But I'm not a fan of his constant hugging routine. Seems like a cheap way to get out of being hit. He would do it just about every time Pacquiao laid a shot on him. It might be smart but it does seem cowardly.

Manny needs to fire some people in his corner team. If he really believed he was winning in the count (and his behavior in later rounds may indicate that he did), he is delusional. His corner team should've been telling him from the 7th or 8th round on, "You're not going to win on the score card, you need to lower your defenses, open yourself up to attack, and basically charge him." Manny needed to throw caution to the wind in those later rounds and go for the knock out and he never did. That is what baffles me. He fought like someone who believed he was ahead on the score card, which makes not a bit of sense.

Completely agree. Pacquiao seemed way too cautious from the very beginning, but especially at the end. He is a long way from his prime at age 36, whereas I think Mayweather looks like a young 38. The difference in their speed was very apparent. Manny had no business being in that ring unless he was going to go 100% for the knockout...but $120m is the greatest payday of his life and he's laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The clinching thing is totally on the ref. That could easily be done away with if Bayless wasn't a complete idiot.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

Manny Pacquiao fan forever.

I thought Manny was going to win considering that he was controlling the fight in almost every round. Mayweather does his usual thing but it didn't look like he was owning the fight unlike his previous fights.

He even hit Manny below the belt.

I'm not referring MayPac fight but to boxing in general. I hope the scoring system should be changed like scores should be revealed every round and "no hugging" policy because it only stops the audience to see a good fight.

I'm not

 

[PacificBoy]

Manny Pacquiao fan forever.

I thought Manny was going to win considering that he was controlling the fight in almost every round. Mayweather does his usual thing but it didn't look like he was owning the fight unlike his previous fights.

He even hit Manny below the belt.

I'm not referring MayPac fight but to boxing in general. I hope the scoring system should be changed like scores should be revealed every round and "no hugging" policy because it only stops the audience to see a good fight.

I'm not

If you say Mayweather was doing his usual thing then how you say at the same time Manny was controlling the fight in almost every round?

 

[RLAAMJR.]

If you say Mayweather was doing his usual thing then how you say at the same time Manny was controlling the fight in almost every round?

Because Mayweather doing his usual thing was not as good as his previous fights.

Also if let's say Mayweather is doing his usual thing while Manny is also doing his usual thing, then why would people say Mayweather was controlling the
fight?

It's like defensive vs offensive and the defensive is controlling the game/fight?

When you're in defensive mode, you're not controlling the game/fight.

I know table tennis and other sports is not boxing but if I play defensive, I can't say I'm controlling the game unless I play offensive.

 

[PacificBoy]

The thing is, Pacquiao didn't do his usual thing, which is his offensive game, because Mayweather was successfully doing his -- playing a defensive game that disrupts his opponent's rhythm and scores points off it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Because Mayweather doing his usual thing was not as good as his previous fights.

Also if let's say Mayweather is doing his usual thing while Manny is also doing his usual thing, then why would people say Mayweather was controlling the
fight?

It's like defensive vs offensive and the defensive is controlling the game/fight?

When you're in defensive mode, you're not controlling the game/fight.

I know table tennis and other sports is not boxing but if I play defensive, I can't say I'm controlling the game unless I play offensive.

When you land twice the punches and basically dictate when the opponent hits you and you hit them, yes you are controlling the fight. You can't win a fight landing 81 punches.

 

[Chesterfield]

I have too many friends who aren't giving Mayweather his due. What we saw last night was not the most exciting fight, yes. The majority of people wanted to see a slobber knocker. A good chunk of people wanted to see Pacquiao knock Mayweather out. That did not happen and people feel cheated. But honestly, people got what they paid for.

Mayweather does what Mayweather does. He will stand his ground and outbox you. He made Pacquiao play to his tune and made him pay for it. He did not run. He did not fight like a coward. What we saw last night was a defensive masterclass. Mayweather may be a piece of s*** outside of the ring. He may portray himself as the villain. He may make it very easy to hate him. The fact of the matter is he is that damn good.

True words. I also instinctively read your last 3 words with Triple H's voice in my head.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

The thing is, Pacquiao didn't do his usual thing, which is his offensive game, because Mayweather was successfully doing his -- playing a defensive game that disrupts his opponent's rhythm and scores points off it.

Mayweather is defensive but he also wants to KO Pacquiao but couldn't as well.

 

[PacificBoy]

Mayweather is defensive but he also wants to KO Pacquiao but couldn't as well.

I'm sure he'd have like to but his usual game doesn't demand it. If it stretches to 12 rounds, Mayweather wins, as simple as that. His record attests to this. By the time the match reached the fourth round, it was Pacquiao who needed to KO Mayweather to win, but he couldn't because of the latter's defensive prowess and ability to score points off his defense and counters.

 

[Iceman]

Manny Pacquiao fan forever.

I thought Manny was going to win considering that he was controlling the fight in almost every round. Mayweather does his usual thing but it didn't look like he was owning the fight unlike his previous fights.

He even hit Manny below the belt.

I'm not referring MayPac fight but to boxing in general. I hope the scoring system should be changed like scores should be revealed every round and "no hugging" policy because it only stops the audience to see a good fight.

I'm not

If scores were revealed every round it would make things much more interesting.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't want a fighter changing their style based on the actual score cards. That would lead to a lot more legit running.

 

[herakles]

IS it me or was the referee allowing Mayweather to hold all night long?!