Far From Home MCU Spider-Man is very, very inaccurate

[Arachnerd]

MCU Spider-Man is the best... on three simple notions.

Heart, humility, and fun.

None of Raimi’s could pull of all three, and Webb never got close to anything on that aspect.

You might not want to word this as absolute fact in case some folks take it the wrong way.

 

[antsman41]

Um, this is a forum... this thread's name is more "abrasive" to MCU Spidey fans than my whole post towards Raimi/Webb fans.

But, whatever.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Um, this is a forum... this thread's name is more "abrasive" to MCU Spidey fans than my whole post towards Raimi/Webb fans.

But, whatever.

The title is a complaint about the film version, not fans of it.

 

[Mandon Knight]

I can see everyone's Spidey-sense going off ironically....

 

[Spidey_62]

I can see everyone's Spidey-sense going off ironically....

Must resist low hanging fruit joke about MCU Spidey's spider sense.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Must resist low hanging fruit joke about MCU Spidey's spider sense.

I don't get it.

 

[Spidey_62]

I don't get it.

People say he doesn't have a spider sense at all lol.

I don't understand when that story was making the rounds when Homecoming was out and such, I felt like it was pretty subtly shown there in Civil War.

 

[Schlosser85]

It’s made pretty blatantly obvious in his literal very first second of screen time in Infinity War.

 

[ragingdemon155]

The spider sense thing is inconsistent in the MCU. In the Avengers movies he has several little moments when it clearly shows that he has it .

Then in his homecoming movie there isn’t a single sign of it and it’s definitely missing in that movie....plus you add in the fact that the director and producer are a little uncertain about it as well...and it’s easy to see why people are confused about it in Homecoming.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Its probably because you can get away with less if Peter can just sense danger.

 

[ragingdemon155]

Its probably because you can get away with less if Peter can just sense danger.

I agree in a sense and I understand what you’re saying.

But don’t intentionally avoid it for the convenience of scenes which is what I felt happened in Homecoming. That seems lazy to me on their end. Instead work with the ability, explore it and come up with some creative ways to utilize it.

At times I feel like people think the Spider-sense is this overpowering ability....

theres just so much potential for some cool moments or visuals with the power and they’re missing out by not being more consistent on where they stand with it.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Roger Moore's Bond is different to Sean Connery's, who is different to Pierce Brosnan's and Daniel Craig's. Michael Keaton's Batman is different to Adam West's, and Christian Bale's. And it's the same with Spider-Man.

The fact that there are different interpretations of these iconic characters is a good thing, not a bad one.

 

[Arachnerd]

True, but different doesn't always equal good, and I say this as someone who likes MCU Spidey bar some major issues.

 

[MaceB]

I'm in the camp pro MCU Spiderman. I think most of their changes have been improvements... with the exception of Flash; that's horrible.

I think that Holland is the best representation of the character so far... humble, but boyish, hungry to do good. Yeah.. they've added a degree of nerdishness to him, but I think that's a good thing honestly.

Vulpture was done perfectly, IMO. Great take on the character.

The thing that stands out really is his supporting cast, which is different... no way to deny it. And I can appreciate why some don't like it, but I think Ned and all that adds a fun new element to a formula that has gotten kinda tired. It's time for some new blood.

Obviously, MJ is the biggest representation of the difference. And in that area, I'm cautiously optimistic. They seem to have made a MJ replacement that more closely resembles Peter frankly - nerdy, sort of awkward. I think that too is a good thing. MJ was a cool character, but I think this new rendition can achieve all the same things that the original did, while also allowing for some genuine chemistry to happen on screen. I think it's a good change.

The next step... in the coming movies... will be to see how they handle the Bugle situation. The writers have already stated that they are working on it, which I am happy to hear. The reality is that Peter's job... doesn't really exist anymore, and they're gonna have to make some revisions there to make that work.

 

[OroroGambitFan]

Yeah I'm also in the camp that prefers MCU spidey to almost any other iteration of the character. I love the new cast, the decision not show his orogins, and most of the other decisions theyve made that differ from other versions. Not sure why, but it all just really works for me....but to each his or her own!

 

[Nathan]

While I enjoy Tom Holland in the role, I'm not a big fan of all the changes they made to everything surrounding him. The thing I dislike the most, is that he isn't really self-reliant anymore. He seems way too dependent on Stark tech and feels sometimes more like Ironman Jr, than Spider-Man.

I agree with those that say that the PS4 version might be the best depiction of the character yet.

 

[Lilbaz]

While I enjoy Tom Holland in the role, I'm not a big fan of all the changes they made to everything surrounding him. The thing I dislike the most, is that he isn't really self-reliant anymore. He seems way too dependent on Stark tech and feels sometimes more like Ironman Jr, than Spider-Man.

I agree with those that say that the PS4 version might be the best depiction of the character yet.

The whole ending of homecoming was him realising that he didn't need the suit or stark. He did it on his own and showed stark he was ready to be an avenger. Which he turned down.

 

[JOE]

You can't have a version of Tobey's Spider-Man in the MCU, it wouldn't have worked. If you prefer that version there's 3 films of him for you to love and watch over and over again.

 

[Schlosser85]

The whole ending of homecoming was him realising that he didn't need the suit or stark. He did it on his own and showed stark he was ready to be an avenger. Which he turned down.

Yea but now Far From Home seems to be leaning hard into the "Iron Man Jr." vibe. Happy even flat out says the world needs a new Iron Man, and we see Peter playing with Tony's tech.

 

[Lilbaz]

Yea but now Far From Home seems to be leaning hard into the "Iron Man Jr." vibe. Happy even flat out says the world needs a new Iron Man, and we see Peter playing with Tony's tech.

We also see him leaving it and going on a school trip. Only for his aunt to put his old suit in his suit case.
Wait until you see the film before deciding he is just iron man junior.

 

[TripleR]

Am I the only one who loves the new spidey, but just thinks the supporting cast seems off?

My biggest pet peeve is Flash Thompson. He's supposed to be the bully who abuses Peter Parker but loves Spiderman, but I just don't see that in this series. Flash isn't supposed to be a fellow nerd who just gets shown up by Peter. He's the jock who bullied him and treats him like **** and harasses him and is popular and can take his girl and stuff. Having Flash be another whimpy nerd on the academic team who's clearly less smart than Peter completely changes him. I want Flash to be his bully who eventually idolizes Spidey and then joins the military, loses his legs, and gets the symbiote follow in his heroes footsteps. Not just another nerd who has no physical presence and is jealous of Peter for being smarter or whatever. Flash should be a real bully who comes around because he loves spidey, but always bullied Peter. Making him just another scrawny nerd competing in the same academic contest completely changes the character.

 

[TripleR]

Basically Flash should be the guy I hated in high school who eventually becomes a friend... not the snooty puss who I always got better grades than who's a whiney ***** the whole time who's as big of a loser as me

 

[ironwez20]

Peter without spider powers could kick this flash’s ass

 

[Neno_Kos]

I personally dislike everything about MCU Spider-Man. So that's why I didnt write a single post here since Homecoming was released. Because despite movie as movie being solid, it didnt feel as good Spider-Man movie. Dont want to be hater, but I simply have no need to push agenda on people who like it.

You can enjoy it, but it's not my Spider-Man, it's not my Mary Jane it's not my Flash. And something I would enjoy discussing here. It's simply not Spider-Man I used to read or watch. Some will say this borrows Ultimate material, but again I never liked Ultimate Spider-Man that much also. It had few interesting ideas but at the end that's it.

Different strokes for different folks. Ill be back when we get Spider-Man reboot.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I personally dislike everything about MCU Spider-Man. So that's why I didnt write a single post here since Homecoming was released. Because despite movie as movie being solid, it didnt feel as good Spider-Man movie. Dont want to be hater, but I simply have no need to push agenda on people who like it.

You can enjoy it, but it's not my Spider-Man, it's not my Mary Jane it's not my Flash. And something I would enjoy discussing here. It's simply not Spider-Man I used to read or watch. Some will say this borrows Ultimate material, but again I never liked Ultimate Spider-Man that much also. It had few interesting ideas but at the end that's it.

Different strokes for different folks. Ill be back when we get Spider-Man reboot.

Pretty much how I feel about the Raimi films.

Which is why I feel this film changes about as much as all the other films have. None of them have been perfect adaptations. I personally prefer homecoming because the biggest changes I feel the MCU Spidey made was to smaller supporting characters. Whereas Raimi messed up main characters. Mary Jane was horribly handled in the Raimi films, the writing for her was horrible. Spider-man didn’t have a personality, and Peter continued to act like the shy high school age Peter throughout all the films.

With the MCU, yeah they’ve changed the supporting cast a lot, but honestly, I don’t care all that much about D-list characters like Ned Leeds. Yeah, Ned isn’t like Ned in the comics, but let’s be real, the most memorable thing Ned did in the comics was get killed in Berlin. Change him as much as you want. Flash is definitely different, and I prefer a more comic take, but he’s still a bully who seemed to idolize Spider-man in this film, so they get part of him down.

“MJ” is a weird one for me because of this strange middle ground they’ve hit where she’s not really but kinda Mary Jane, but not, but kinda...it’s annoying. I would prefer they either fully commit to her being a new character, or Mary Jane, not this odd half measure they went with. That said, I vastly prefer her character to the dumpster fire that was the writing for Mary Jane in the Raimi films, so if I’m not getting an accurate Mary Jane, I’m taking MCU’s version every day.

At the end of the day, MCU has nailed the character dynamic between Spidey and Peter, something none of the other films could do, and that’s the most important part to me.