MCU X-Men

[DrCosmic]

Mutant X.

A powerful mutant with reality warping abilities who needs to hop from body to body in order to stay alive, is held in a secret mutant containment facility on Muir Island, cared for by his mother Moira MacTaggert (a geneticist who is studying the mutant X-gene, research which is funded by Charles Xavier). He is Kevin MacTaggert. He resents his mother and wants to be free. He breaks out and goes on a killing spree, hopping from body to body to stay alive and regain his strength. As he gets stronger he starts to warp the reality around him.

Charlies Xavier recruits Wolverine, Storm, Colossus and Nightcrawler to reform the X-Men, a secret team of mutants who ten years prior kept the world safe from mutants and helped kept the existence of mutants a secret from the world. Scott Summers and Jean Grey are the two remaining original students of Xavier's School of the Gifted that stayed on, and are put in charge of the new team. Kitty Pryde is the last new recruit, 18 years old, bridging the gap between the old X-Men (teens) and the new (experienced adults). Their mission is to stop Mutant X from his killing spree before the Government and superhero teams like The Avengers step in. By the end of the story, Mutant X is killed and the world finds out about mutants. The MCU is now forever changed, as the problem with super powered individuals now goes far beyond the Avengers and the Sokovia Accords.

Interesting thoughts. I think Proteus is a fine descriptive thematic name, no need to bring back the name Mutant X. I like your team lineup. I think ten years is too long and the questions that time frame creates detracts from the story and adds nothing to it. A year or two is fine, and that shortens the gap much better for the audience who was not there for the X-Men's formative adventures than Shadowcat possibly could. I think though, based on what we know, that the Sokovia Accords applies to mutants pretty clearly. I mean, it applies to Black Widow and James Rhodes, y'know? So mutants wouldn't go beyond it at all. If anything, it puts the MCU in a very interesting position where Tony Stark is playing the role of Bolivar Trask.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

If Marvel/Disney really wants to please the fans then they should give us the 90s TAS team. That’s when the X-Men were in their hay day and a lot of people reference that particular cartoon. I don’t think they should put everyone in during the first film but definitely build towards it by film 3: Cyclops Jean Beast (who should be CGI ala Hulk) Storm Gambit Rogue Wolverine, Marvel definitely wants to recast Logan and it’s safe to say he will be in their first X-Men movie let’s face it he’s a box office draw.

Psylocke Jubilee Iceman Colossus Nightcrawler Angel could either be cameos minor/guest characters if they want to film out the school and possibly get upgraded to X-Men. I definitely wouldn’t mind seeing the Blue team and Gold team.

I like the original team but I think a movie with them five will never sell however if their is scene ft them in a flashback then that’ll make us fan boys and girls happy.

 

[Val_Zod]

If Marvel/Disney really wants to please the fans then they should give us the 90s TAS team. That’s when the X-Men were in their hay day and a lot of people reference that particular cartoon. I don’t think they should put everyone in during the first film but definitely build towards it by film 3: Cyclops Jean Beast (who should be CGI ala Hulk) Storm Gambit Rogue Wolverine, Marvel definitely wants to recast Logan and it’s safe to say he will be in their first X-Men movie let’s face it he’s a box office draw.

Psylocke Jubilee Iceman Colossus Nightcrawler Angel could either be cameos minor/guest characters if they want to film out the school and possibly get upgraded to X-Men. I definitely wouldn’t mind seeing the Blue team and Gold team.

I like the original team but I think a movie with them five will never sell however if their is scene ft them in a flashback then that’ll make us fan boys and girls happy.

I still think Second Genesis team is really the way to go for the first team. I certainly prefer Nightcrawler and/or Colossus on the team over Gambit in the first film.

 

[Endeavor]

Where were the sorcerers before we first saw them in Dr. Strange? They've been around for millennium! Where were Stark and Rhodey in TWS? Etc...etc...etc... These questions will always be there. But in this case, it's easy to explain. The mutants were in hiding.

Exactly.

It's so simple.

I don't understand why people are making such a big deal out of it.
A reasonable and plausible explanation for their absence up until now can be easily included. I personally don't need one beyond "they were unknown by most".

 

[Jh7058622]

I think the biggest things are the logistics of characters being hated and feared for having special abilities and in the same universe having people with special abilities praised and highly regarded.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

I still think Second Genesis team is really the way to go for the first team. I certainly prefer Nightcrawler and/or Colossus on the team over Gambit in the first film.

I really want to see Gambit x Rogue together because their relationship is the anti version of what Jean x Scott have. It’s a very interesting dynamic and seeing how Rogue goes from avoiding him turning him down to eventually falling for him it’s something a lot of people can relate too. Honestly that Iceman x Rogue pairing in the Singer films was such a bore and it wasn’t true to who Rogue is.

But I do love Colossus x Nightcrawler also I just want Marvel come up with an interesting way to include them in future installments perhaps in Russia protecting his family from anti mutant protesters or Kurt in a Monastery in Germany

 

[zachthegeek]

I think the biggest things are the logistics of characters being hated and feared for having special abilities and in the same universe having people with special abilities praised and highly regarded.

I think something they need to focus on is the idea of “homo superior.” People would fear mutants because they don’t want to be replaced, and think that mutants all have the same agenda as a radicalist like Magneto.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

I think something they need to focus on is the idea of “homo superior.” People would fear mutants because they don’t want to be replaced, and think that mutants all have the same agenda as a radicalist like Magneto.

I agree! I really want to see Mutants being mistreated by humans i.e racist signs, mutant kids being bullied, humans refusing customer service to mutants. The Friends of Humanity, Graydon Creed, Henry Gyrich should be included as the antagonist to mutants, the x-men and brotherhood.

 

[Dark Raven]

If they're going to use Gyrich, they should have him be a thorn in the side to both the X-Men and Avengers. He was the one in the comics who forced the Avengers to have only a 6-member limit. Before that they were way too big with dozens of members, and the government couldn't keep track of them. It was almost a Civil War movie type government oversight.

Gyrich also forced Falcon upon the Avengers for racial diversity.

If he doesn't do that with the Avengers, they could adapt that storyline to the X-Men. It might be more of a sticking point for them anyway, because they have larger memberships with all the mutants from the school, whereas the Avengers in the movies only have about 6 anyway (unless you count both sides in CA Civil War).

 

[DrCosmic]

I think the biggest things are the logistics of characters being hated and feared for having special abilities and in the same universe having people with special abilities praised and highly regarded.

I think the Sokovia Accords are a wonderful tool to resolve that. Basically, you want to position the world to see mutants as Iron Man sees Bucky. Let some people actually die from out of control teenagers with super powers, as they should, and Xavier to see the treatment of mutants under, say, Henry Peter Gyrich as Cap sees Tony's treatment of Wanda. Imagine, basically, if Cap had never saved the world, but instead, had only killed people, as far as the public knew. What would the stance of the populace be on his resistance to registration?

 

[Iceman]

I think the Sokovia Accords are a wonderful tool to resolve that. Basically, you want to position the world to see mutants as Iron Man sees Bucky. Let some people actually die from out of control teenagers with super powers, as they should, and Xavier to see the treatment of mutants under, say, Henry Peter Gyrich as Cap sees Tony's treatment of Wanda. Imagine, basically, if Cap had never saved the world, but instead, had only killed people, as far as the public knew. What would the stance of the populace be on his resistance to registration?

I think something like that could work.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Interesting thoughts. I think Proteus is a fine descriptive thematic name, no need to bring back the name Mutant X. I like your team lineup. I think ten years is too long and the questions that time frame creates detracts from the story and adds nothing to it. A year or two is fine, and that shortens the gap much better for the audience who was not there for the X-Men's formative adventures than Shadowcat possibly could.

The reason for the ten year time frame is that it allows members of the original team to leave, join regular society, and get new lives (as closeted mutants). Thus explaining why Xavier can't just reassemble the old team, and has to recruit new people and build a new team.

You can play around with the time gap a bit, but I don't know if a year or two is a long enough time between the old team and the new. You want the original team to have a bit of a history and legacy behind it.

I think though, based on what we know, that the Sokovia Accords applies to mutants pretty clearly. I mean, it applies to Black Widow and James Rhodes, y'know? So mutants wouldn't go beyond it at all. If anything, it puts the MCU in a very interesting position where Tony Stark is playing the role of Bolivar Trask.

The great thing about Civil War is that it established a political climate where world governments are cracking down on super powered beings because of all the collateral damage of the movies that came before it. Now throw mutants into that world. If that world is getting sick of the Avengers antics you think mutants are going to be welcomed with open arms? No way.

 

[Iceman]

The great thing about Civil War is that it established a political climate where world governments are cracking down on super powered beings because of all the collateral damage of the movies that came before it. Now throw mutants into that world. If that world is getting sick of the Avengers antics you think mutants are going to be welcomed with open arms? No way.

Yeah mutants would fit quite well with that. Although maybe superheroes will be popular again after Avengers 4?

 

[DrCosmic]

The reason for the ten year time frame is that it allows members of the original team to leave, join regular society, and get new lives (as closeted mutants). Thus explaining why Xavier can't just reassemble the old team, and has to recruit new people and build a new team.

You can play around with the time gap a bit, but I don't know if a year or two is a long enough time between the old team and the new. You want the original team to have a bit of a history and legacy behind it.

A year is plenty enough to start a new life and gain obligations. Also... "I'm busy being an accountant" is a pretty piss-poor excuse to not help save innocent lives with your special powers and abilities. I don't know if having normal lives explains why a new team is needed.

Why do you want the original team to have a history and legacy? Can't the original team's adventures be unimportant, since, well, they are? I mean, it's not like they're worth making a movie about, right?

The great thing about Civil War is that it established a political climate where world governments are cracking down on super powered beings because of all the collateral damage of the movies that came before it. Now throw mutants into that world. If that world is getting sick of the Avengers antics you think mutants are going to be welcomed with open arms? No way.

Prezactly.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

A year is plenty enough to start a new life and gain obligations. Also... "I'm busy being an accountant" is a pretty piss-poor excuse to not help save innocent lives with your special powers and abilities. I don't know if having normal lives explains why a new team is needed.

Why do you want the original team to have a history and legacy? Can't the original team's adventures be unimportant, since, well, they are? I mean, it's not like they're worth making a movie about, right?

I want the original team to have as much of a history and legacy as it did in the comics. I want to respect the comics history as much as possible, and because I think it would be cool if characters like Iceman, Angel, and Beast were all a little reluctant to get back into the game at the start. Maybe that's why Xavier doesn't call on them?

I also think it would be cool if the original team broke up when most of them turned around 18 or 19 years old, and now they are approaching their late twenties/early thirties and have been out of the game for a long time. It cements the idea that they were the original "teenage X-Men". That's why I'd like there to be a wider gap between the old and new.

 

[Marvel united]

I want the original team to have as much of a history and legacy as it did in the comics. I want to respect the comics history as much as possible, and because I think it would be cool if characters like Iceman, Angel, and Beast were all a little reluctant to get back into the game at the start. Maybe that's why Xavier doesn't call on them?

I also think it would be cool if the original team broke up when most of them turned around 18 or 19 years old, and now they are approaching their late twenties/early thirties and have been out of the game for a long time. It cements the idea that they were the original "teenage X-Men". That's why I'd like there to be a wider gap between the old and new.

Why would they start the X-Men off in the MCU with all of that history? Marvel didn't start Spider-Man off as the head of Parker Industries or even Cap as the icon he became. They all started from the beginning. Steve was the skinnt little selfless guy who wanted to make a difference, Peter was/is the akward 15 year old kid trying to balance both Spidey and Peter. This idea that they should skip everything from the 60s run to get to the version everybody knows doesn't benefit the MCU, it just makes things convulted, we'd get a massive exposition dump

 

[DrCosmic]

I want the original team to have as much of a history and legacy as it did in the comics. I want to respect the comics history as much as possible, and because I think it would be cool if characters like Iceman, Angel, and Beast were all a little reluctant to get back into the game at the start. Maybe that's why Xavier doesn't call on them?

I also think it would be cool if the original team broke up when most of them turned around 18 or 19 years old, and now they are approaching their late twenties/early thirties and have been out of the game for a long time. It cements the idea that they were the original "teenage X-Men". That's why I'd like there to be a wider gap between the old and new.

If you want the original team to have as much history and legacy as in the comics, then why not show those adventures, as they did in the comics? The original comics didn't retcon X-Men in, and if we respect those, then why would we?

Wouldn't them being the teenage X-Men cement the idea that they are the teenage X-Men more than them being 30 year olds who have been 'out of the game' for a while? It's kinda like show don't tell, right?

 

[Marvel united]

If you want the original team to have as much history and legacy as in the comics, then why not show those adventures, as they did in the comics? The original comics didn't retcon X-Men in, and if we respect those, then why would we?

Wouldn't them being the teenage X-Men cement the idea that they are the teenage X-Men more than them being 30 year olds who have been 'out of the game' for a while? It's kinda like show don't tell, right?

Just imagine how awesome it would be to have that legacy and history feel EARNED within the MCU. Like we, as the audience, have grown with these characters. That's why I love the approach Marvel is taking with Spider-Man in terms of showing him becoming one of Marvel's Greatest Heroes. I could see the X-Men starting off as kids (17-19 year olds) and by the third or fourth film being closer to the Claremont version everybody recognizes. I would much rather that route then jumping straight into the seasoned, veterans heroes like they did in X-Men 1

 

[TheVileOne]

They kind of just did that from First Class to Dark Phoenix.

We don't need another 1960s First Class remake.

 

[Dark Raven]

They kind of just did that from First Class to Dark Phoenix.

We don't need another 1960s First Class remake.

We need 1960s, 70s and 80s, with a time travel yarn as part 2 and two movies of Professor X with a full head of hair. Then Dark Phoenix for Part 4. All over again.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

i I could see the X-Men starting off as kids (17-19 year olds)

Idk I feel they should be 24-27 years old imo

The younger the X-MEN are the more likely they'd have to job to Avenger's in the inevitable fight imo

 

[Marvel united]

They kind of just did that from First Class to Dark Phoenix.

We don't need another 1960s First Class remake.

Ehh, not really. First Class didn't have any of the key members besides Beast and it didn't set up the X-Men to develop over multiple movies considering most of the members on that team were dead in DOFP.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Why would they start the X-Men off in the MCU with all of that history? Marvel didn't start Spider-Man off as the head of Parker Industries or even Cap as the icon he became. They all started from the beginning. Steve was the skinnt little selfless guy who wanted to make a difference, Peter was/is the akward 15 year old kid trying to balance both Spidey and Peter. This idea that they should skip everything from the 60s run to get to the version everybody knows doesn't benefit the MCU, it just makes things convulted, we'd get a massive exposition dump

The mass audience isn't going to want to wait to see favorites like Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Gambit, etc. Your Spider-Man comparison doesn't work because X-Men is too big and too large of a world to start completely from the beginning. That's why previous X-Men adaptions (like past movies and the TV shows) never did that.

If you want the original team to have as much history and legacy as in the comics, then why not show those adventures, as they did in the comics? The original comics didn't retcon X-Men in, and if we respect those, then why would we?

Wouldn't them being the teenage X-Men cement the idea that they are the teenage X-Men more than them being 30 year olds who have been 'out of the game' for a while? It's kinda like show don't tell, right?

I think its ultimately for the best if the original team's adventures took place in the past. I liked the approach that the Ant-Man movie took with Hank Pym. I think the original five needs to be approached in a similar way, where their original adventures are inferred and we don't know all the details. Its more fun to imagine those adventures ourselves, and get little hints of things that happened in the past, rather than seeing everything in a linear fashion. It feels more "lived in" and richer that way. It makes the world feel "bigger".

I also don't think its practical to have an X-Men movie that stars the original team. Not a diverse enough of a lineup in today's market place, characters like Wolverine and Storm are more popular with the general audience, etc. So its just best to have them be past X-Men, and come into the story after their run.

 

[Marvel united]

The mass audience isn't going to want to wait to see favorites like Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Gambit, etc. Your Spider-Man comparison doesn't work because X-Men is too big and too large of a world to start completely from the beginning. That's why previous X-Men adaptions (like past movies and the TV shows) never did that.



I think its ultimately for the best if the original team's adventures took place in the past. I liked the approach that the Ant-Man movie took with Hank Pym. I think the original five needs to be approached in a similar way, where their original adventures are inferred and we don't know all the details. Its more fun to imagine those adventures ourselves, and get little hints of things that happened in the past, rather than seeing everything in a linear fashion. It feels more "lived in" and richer that way. It makes the world feel "bigger".

I also don't think its practical to have an X-Men movie that stars the original team. Not a diverse enough of a lineup in today's market place, characters like Wolverine and Storm are more popular with the general audience, etc. So its just best to have them be past X-Men, and come into the story after their run.

It is practical under Marvel/Feige, he made fricking Ant-Man work. Why wouldn't he be able to make Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Angel and Iceman household names? Wolverine doesn't need to be in the first movie

 

[AndrewGilkison]

It is practical under Marvel/Feige, he made fricking Ant-Man work. Why wouldn't he be able to make Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Angel and Iceman household names? Wolverine doesn't need to be in the first movie

Ant-Man is a perfect example of what I am talking about. It had Hank Pym's original adventures taking place in the past and Scott Lang as the main protagonist.