MCU X-Men

[Chance Jackson]

I am very much looking forward to Dark Phoenix, but it's always fun to imagine the way you would want things done if there were no baggage (and the MCU might be offering a baggage-free opportunity soon, before it makes their own baggage lol).

I think the challenge the MCU will have is depicting a large and vibrant mutant community while not wasting or under-developing the characters that appear.

This is the team of adult X-men I'd like to see:

Forge: I'd make him the genius tech guy instead of Beast. He would be responsible for the comic-booky tech elements like the jet and suits. They should explore the story where Forge invents a device that removes mutant powers and have it used on Storm accidentally without her knowing it was Forge's invention. He could nurse her through the trauma of losing her powers and fall in love, only for Storm to tragically find out it was his fault. This gives Forge and Storm a personal arc that carries through several films.

Do not want Storm depowered, and this is too similar to the Chris Pratt & Jennifer Lawrence (Travelers?) movie

 

[Chris B]

I would handle the introduction of mutants in the MCU similar to how the X-Men: Evolution cartoon did back in the early 00's: mutants have been around the whole time and have largely managed to remain hidden, but now due to a public incident of some sort, have been revealed and the public is freaking out. I don't think it is a stretch to say that the X-Men have been around in some form, but as they were trying to keep mutants hidden, have stayed out of the public eye.

My ideal team line-up would be the original five plus Wolverine, Storm, Nightcrawler, and Colossus. Granted, I'm not sure if that would be too big of a line-up for the first film. In which case, I would probably remove Angel and Colossus for the sake of condensing.

I also wouldn't include Magneto, the Brotherhood, or Mystique, but would reserve them for sequels. I like the idea of starting off with Mr. Sinister. He would lend himself to providing exposition on the history of mutants, I could see him being responsible for the incident that exposes mutants to the world, and his dynamic with the Summers would help put the spotlight on Cyclops.

 

[Iceman]

Eh... I think we can look at the previous Marvel outings and see where this is going and... I don't think a mere live action, highly influenced by the 90's toon adaptation is what is in store.

Marvel is in it for the long haul. Why race to Jubilee and Rogue before establishing Scott, Jean, Hank, Bobby and Warren?

They are definitely in it for the long haul and will have planned the long game thoroughly before we get anything, but I don't know if they will necessarily want to duplicate the exact founding members for their first film. They didn't do it for Avengers so I don't think they would feel obligated to. They will likely do whatever they feel works best and if that happens to be original 5 so be it.

 

[TheVileOne]

I would handle the introduction of mutants in the MCU similar to how the X-Men: Evolution cartoon did back in the early 00's: mutants have been around the whole time and have largely managed to remain hidden, but now due to a public incident of some sort, have been revealed and the public is freaking out. I don't think it is a stretch to say that the X-Men have been around in some form, but as they were trying to keep mutants hidden, have stayed out of the public eye.

My ideal team line-up would be the original five plus Wolverine, Storm, Nightcrawler, and Colossus. Granted, I'm not sure if that would be too big of a line-up for the first film. In which case, I would probably remove Angel and Colossus for the sake of condensing.

I also wouldn't include Magneto, the Brotherhood, or Mystique, but would reserve them for sequels. I like the idea of starting off with Mr. Sinister. He would lend himself to providing exposition on the history of mutants, I could see him being responsible for the incident that exposes mutants to the world, and his dynamic with the Summers would help put the spotlight on Cyclops.

I think this would definitely be an interesting idea. I think there are multiple ways they could approach it, and this would be an option.

 

[TheVileOne]

Eh... I think we can look at the previous Marvel outings and see where this is going and... I don't think a mere live action, highly influenced by the 90's toon adaptation is what is in store.

Marvel is in it for the long haul. Why race to Jubilee and Rogue before establishing Scott, Jean, Hank, Bobby and Warren?

Marvel will use whatever characters they want to use think work best for the story. The Avengers movie while it did use Loki as the original villain was not the original team lineup. Cap was not part of the original lineup, plus no Ant-Man/Giant-Man or Wasp, subbed for Hawkeye and Black Widow.

 

[Rorschach2012]

We’ll get a proper rivalry between Sabretooth and Wolverine now!

 

[Iceman]

We’ll get a proper rivalry between Sabretooth and Wolverine now!

I would like for Sabretooth to have history eventually with other X-Men too as per the comics. Some will really fear him and others he will have info on their backgrounds.

 

[Herofan]

I predict the lineup:
Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Colossus and Beast, maybe Iceman.

Wolverine and Jubilee and maybe Angel in sequels.

 

[Iceman]

I wonder how often they would plan to make main X-Team films. 2 years apart maybe? 3 years seems a long time to wait.

 

[Weather Witch]

I predict the lineup:
Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Colossus and Beast, maybe Iceman.

That's pretty much the max amount of characters they could do in one movie. Heck, even then the screentime would be hard to balance. I think there might be a bit of a wake-up call in there somewhere.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Marvel will use whatever characters they want to use think work best for the story. The Avengers movie while it did use Loki as the original villain was not the original team lineup. Cap was not part of the original lineup, plus no Ant-Man/Giant-Man or Wasp, subbed for Hawkeye and Black Widow.

Didn't Whedon's original story include Janet and Hank and only was changed because the Ant-Man film was taking to long due to Edgar dragging his feet (along with creative differences with Marvel)?

Sure they have shown that lots of times they have no problem deviating from canonical versions, these are adaptations after all.

That said look at the films we have gotten. Outside of TIH and S:HC we have usually in the MCU started with these characters at the start of their heroic stories. So that goes towards a from the begging, original five approach. Second, the Fox films already did the "en media res" thing, with the team already formed, simply adding Logan to the mix. Why replicate that? Isn't the point to do something different we this property than what was being done with them at Fox? Third, I thought Marvel, for any changes (some rather large even) that they have included in their films, was praised for its fealty to the source material? Like it or not... The 90's toon is not "the source material". The 90's show is itself an adaptation. So... An adaptation of an adaptation? Doesn't sound like what Marvel has done up until now.


Finally... I get wanting to see favorites other than the original five but the mythology even until this day is based off of that history, and lots of fans want to see that in the MCU, and that buys a lot of online goodwill which like it or not plays into these considerations in my opinion.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I predict the lineup:
Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Colossus and Beast, maybe Iceman.

Wolverine and Jubilee and maybe Angel in sequels.

I highly doubt Wolverine will be absent in the first movie


Cyclops, Wolverine, Jean, Storm, I think those 4 are guarantees. I’d throw Rogue, Beast and Gambit in there too. Jubilee was the worst character in X-Men TAS, I’d leave her out, and just adapt that team

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I highly doubt Wolverine will be absent in the first movie


Cyclops, Wolverine, Jean, Storm, I think those 4 are guarantees. I’d throw Rogue, Beast and Gambit in there too. Jubilee was the worst character in X-Men TAS, I’d leave her out, and just adapt that team

Were it me... He wouldn't be on the team for awhile...


But I wouldn't leave the audience hanging. Solution?



WOLVERINE VS. HULK: SLASH AND SMASH.

Intro Logan, use the fan favorite Hulk without it being a solo film... Then print money. Plus the new Wolverine gets eSTABlished (heh) and developed before joining the team, making for less work overall in the team film's story. Just drop him in a sequel.

I would do same for Storm. Have here in the BP sequel and then have her join the team after. Don't hook BP and her up but establish a connection that can come to fruition later on.

 

[Iceman]

Didn't Whedon's original story include Janet and Hank and only was changed because the Ant-Man film was taking to long due to Edgar dragging his feet (along with creative differences with Marvel)?

Sure they have shown that lots of times they have no problem deviating from canonical versions, these are adaptations after all.

That said look at the films we have gotten. Outside of TIH and S:HC we have usually in the MCU started with these characters at the start of their heroic stories. So that goes towards a from the begging, original five approach. Second, the Fox films already did the "en media res" thing, with the team already formed, simply adding Logan to the mix. Why replicate that? Isn't the point to do something different we this property than what was being done with them at Fox? Third, I thought Marvel, for any changes (some rather large even) that they have included in their films, was praised for its fealty to the source material? Like it or not... The 90's toon is not "the source material". The 90's show is itself an adaptation. So... An adaptation of an adaptation? Doesn't sound like what Marvel has done up until now.


Finally... I get wanting to see favorites other than the original five but the mythology even until this day is based off of that history, and lots of fans want to see that in the MCU, and that buys a lot of online goodwill which like it or not plays into these considerations in my opinion.

The X-Men are slightly different to most other long running characters or groups of characters in comics, as their rebirth is as much of a starting point to many long time comic fans as the actual origin (with the history prior to that almost like a LotR appendix). Otherwise you would see the case being made for O5 much more frequently. The X-Men is about a world of mutants while other superteams are defined purely by their historic members, so any one lineup isn't all that relevant when you have so many that have participated to varying extents from being a pupil at the school to a fully fledged main team X-Man to being a character on one of the multiple spin off teams to just being a mutant in the universe.

 

[Iceman]

Were it me... He wouldn't be on the team for awhile...


But I wouldn't leave the audience hanging. Solution?



WOLVERINE VS. HULK: SLASH AND SMASH.

Intro Logan, use the fan favorite Hulk without it being a solo film... Then print money. Plus the new Wolverine gets eSTABlished (heh) and developed before joining the team, making for less work overall in the team film's story. Just drop him in a sequel.

I would do same for Storm. Have here in the BP sequel and then have her join the team after. Don't hook BP and her up but establish a connection that can come to fruition later on.

I'm quite up for some of the X-Men and F4 solo members being introduced on their own in other MCU films ahead of a team film. Some of these interactions would be great.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The X-Men are slightly different to most other long running characters or groups of characters in comics, as their rebirth is as much of a starting point to many long time comic fans as the actual origin (with the history prior to that almost like a LotR appendix). Otherwise you would see the case being made for O5 much more frequently. The X-Men is about a world of mutants while other superteams are defined purely by their historic members, so any one lineup isn't all that relevant when you have so many that have participated to varying extents from being a pupil at the school to a fully fledged main team X-Man to being a character on one of the multiple spin off teams to just being a mutant in the universe.

Yeah, but even the Claremont rebirth is based off of what came before. It's big leads are two of the original members in Scott and Jean. Also, starting the team off with the original five as younger people (not Peter Parker aged but post American High School) simplifies the question of "Where has this group been?" The answer is... Training. The first film is their public debut.

 

[Power Cosmic]

I would handle the introduction of mutants in the MCU similar to how the X-Men: Evolution cartoon did back in the early 00's: mutants have been around the whole time and have largely managed to remain hidden, but now due to a public incident of some sort, have been revealed and the public is freaking out. I don't think it is a stretch to say that the X-Men have been around in some form, but as they were trying to keep mutants hidden, have stayed out of the public eye.

My ideal team line-up would be the original five plus Wolverine, Storm, Nightcrawler, and Colossus. Granted, I'm not sure if that would be too big of a line-up for the first film. In which case, I would probably remove Angel and Colossus for the sake of condensing.

I also wouldn't include Magneto, the Brotherhood, or Mystique, but would reserve them for sequels. I like the idea of starting off with Mr. Sinister. He would lend himself to providing exposition on the history of mutants, I could see him being responsible for the incident that exposes mutants to the world, and his dynamic with the Summers would help put the spotlight on Cyclops.

That would be my dream line up.

 

[Iceman]

Yeah, but even the Claremont rebirth is based off of what came before. It's big leads are two of the original members in Scott and Jean. Also, starting the team off with the original five as younger people (not Peter Parker aged but post American High School) simplifies the question of "Where has this group been?" The answer is... Training. The first film is their public debut.

Yes but what that means is that the members who start don't have to mirror exactly the O5 even if they are very close. If any were to miss the cut I would guess Angel and it might mean a couple of others being introduced throughout the film rather than near the beginning. Recruitment of new vulnerable (and not so vulnerable) mutants should be a continuing process.

I would like for the group chosen to be training in the Danger Room more and more ferociously over a number of years and we then see some footage on TV of what is happening during one of the Avengers films and the Prof saying you aren't ready yet. I hope they really go to town on the Danger Room scenes.

 

[Mad Ones]

Do not want Storm depowered, and this is too similar to the Chris Pratt & Jennifer Lawrence (Travelers?) movie

Except it would be handled completely differently than that movie. Storm could have that arc a couple movies down the line in a similar way to Cap losing his shield and Mjolnir getting destroyed. Fox uses Storm as a special effect. This would be the perfect way to showcase the badassery of Storm's character with or without powers and her iconic leather and mohawk outfit (again, they should do this way down the line after they nailed default Storm, and have it only be temporary).

 

[DrCosmic]

IF they go with the Original 5, they'll need to solve the problems that got the O5 cancelled to make the O5 an interesting team in their own right. It wasn't just 'write better', it's that they were conceptually uninteresting. Comics have solved this by relying on nostaglia for the First Class comics and ANAD, in addition to tons of broader universe crossovers and a time-lost storyline. An O5 movie would have to create a brand new solution to prop them up.

Me, I would alter the O5 characters to capture the essence of the iconic/popular X-Men lineups, without overlapping with any of them.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

IF they go with the Original 5, they'll need to solve the problems that got the O5 cancelled to make the O5 an interesting team in their own right. It wasn't just 'write better', it's that they were conceptually uninteresting. Comics have solved this by relying on nostaglia for the First Class comics and ANAD, in addition to tons of broader universe crossovers and a time-lost storyline. An O5 movie would have to create a brand new solution to prop them up.

Me, I would alter the O5 to more resemble a more appealing X-Men lineup, without overlapping with any of them.

Eh... Think of the development that happened in the comics with those characters. You make damned sure that in "writing better" those aspects shine through as harbingers of what's to come. Hank has his self loathing and search for a "cure". Bobby can be a young man dealing with both mutancy and his blossoming recognition of his own sexuality. Scott, as opposed to the Singer films, can actually get some development as a person burdened with the mantle of leadership. And on and on. And people are acting like changes in the roster aren't part and parcel of starting with the original five. Other characters can be worked into the second and third installments. No one is posting an all original five trilogy or the like.

Honestly, a lot of this antipathy for the original X-Men getting spotlight in the MCU feels like it's based on nostalgia for the 90's toon more than anything.

 

[Mad Ones]

I agree that the 05 have a lot of nostalgia, both in the world of the comics and in the world of the readers. But it's nostalgia about the building blocks of greatness, they themselves were never great. I just can't see a good enough reason why the MCU would adapt the same original characters when those characters don't bring the drama or iconic status people love about the X-men.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I agree that the 05 have a lot of nostalgia, both in the world of the comics and in the world of the readers. But it's nostalgia about the building blocks of greatness, they themselves were never great. I just can't see a good enough reason why the MCU would adapt the same original characters when those characters don't bring the drama or iconic status people love about the X-men.

Stock Marvel Cinematic Universe Answer #001:

Ahem...

If they can turn characters that were pop culture nobodies like THE GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY with a talking raccoon and a tree alien who only says one word into stars of blockbuster movies then they can do anything.




That is the party line, correct? So... How does this not apply to the Uncanny X-Men?

 

[Iceman]

Eh... Think of the development that happened in the comics with those characters. You make damned sure that in "writing better" those aspects shine through as harbingers of what's to come. Hank has his self loathing and search for a "cure". Bobby can be a young man dealing with both mutancy and his blossoming recognition of his own sexuality. Scott, as opposed to the Singer films, can actually get some development as a person burdened with the mantle of leadership. And on and on. And people are acting like changes in the roster aren't part and parcel of starting with the original five. Other characters can be worked into the second and third installments. No one is posting an all original five trilogy or the like.

Honestly, a lot of this antipathy for the original X-Men getting spotlight in the MCU feels like it's based on nostalgia for the 90's toon more than anything.

It's not antipathy for the original X-Men. It's flexibility to not be obligated to to do them first and just for Marvel to do whatever they deem best. I don't think most people dislike that lineup. I certainly won't be complaining if they go with that.

 

[Mad Ones]

Stock Marvel Cinematic Universe Answer #001:

Ahem...

If they can turn characters that were pop culture nobodies like THE GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY with a talking raccoon and a tree alien who only says one word into stars of blockbuster movies then they can do anything.




That is the party line, correct? So... How does this not apply to the Uncanny X-Men?

It's not about making those characters popular. The 05 are not Groot. Your point is that Marvel can do anything and have it turn out great. Well... more reason for them to not have to start with 05 to build a strong foundation for the X-men in the MCU. The fans who were guardians fans got to see a more popular version of the team, without the MCU starting with the original guardians. Your guardians comparison actually gives more reason for Marvel to not strictly follow comic histories and lineups.

It's not antipathy for the original X-Men. It's flexibility to not be obligated to to do them first and just for Marvel to do whatever they deem best. I don't think most people dislike that lineup. I certainly won't be complaining if they go with that.

Exactly. The MCU should have the flexibility to create a foundation that isn't built by four white men and one white woman, especially when telling stories about discrimination. Marvel did interesting things with Homecoming and I expect that creativity with the X-men.