MCU X-Men

[KRYPTON INC.]

Yeah but movie villains aren't constant thorns, they're one and done. Loki is the exception, but that requires development, which, as you said, can't work with the brotherhood. So you have this group of villains designed to be constant thorns that aren't. We don't learn enough about any of them to care if they win or lose. All the while we'd much more appreciate one or two lines about supporting/jr x-men , but we're busy pretending people care about avalanche. I suggest cutting the bhood and finding a more efficient counterpoint.

In your opinion do you think that it's possible to do a compelling film about, maybe, recruitment? Follow both sides as they complete their rosters and leave the big confrontation for a follow up film?

 

[DrCosmic]

In your opinion do you think that it's possible to do a compelling film about, maybe, recruitment? Follow both sides as they complete their rosters and leave the big confrontation for a follow up film?

That certainly would be possible. I think Phoenix_Flare is right about the kind of film we get for origin films in the MCU. I'm looking from Iron Monger to Caiceleous (sp?) and they are all very much reflections. Even GotG, a team film was up against a team, Ronan, Nebula and Korath. I certainly would be interested in the Brotherhood having an arc that covered 2-3 films, and having the one-off villain be a third force, again, looking to GotG, like Yondu and his Ravagers. But it isn't likely to be what the MCU does, and even looking at GotG, the bad guys are filled with future team members.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't want another recruitment film. First Class was a lot about that. It would feel like something we've already seen before. I'm also tired of seeing comic stories where they're always setting up for the future instead of anything much happening now.

 

[psylockolussus]

The X-Men are already established for quite some time and they are already divided into two to three squads. That's what I want to see.

 

[DrCosmic]

The X-Men are already established for quite some time and they are already divided into two to three squads. That's what I want to see.

^I want to see that too, but only if all the characters are well developed. No more disposable X-Men for me, tyvm.

 

[psylockolussus]

I don't think its impossible to feature 8 main X-Men and develop them well in a single film, while some could cameo to tease the second film. And the more I think about it, maybe its time for a 3 hour Marvel film.

1st film - 1st squad
2nd film - 2nd squad
3rd film - 1st/2nd squad all in 1 movie
4th film - mix up the squads

 

[Frankeh]

The Animated Series introduced an already formed team and still managed to develop them. I think that's what needs to be done. No more waiting an entire movie to get the X-Men.

 

[Endeavor]

He was much better than X1 Sabretooth at least.

A cardboard cutout would have been better than X1 Sabes

BTW, for those of you who are Marvel gamers, Sabretooth is coming to McoC in a few months.

 

[Dark Raven]

The Animated Series introduced an already formed team and still managed to develop them. I think that's what needs to be done. No more waiting an entire movie to get the X-Men.

Instead of one movie, they could wait an entirely trilogy. One X-Man recruited per movie. The whole movie could be about the search for a new X-Man. By the third movie they will only have three fifths of the team and still two more members to go. Cyclops, Jean Grey and Beast by movie three.

Or they could have the first film about Professor X's unsuccessful attempts to recruit anyone, and at the end of the movie he's sitting alone trying to re-evaluate his recruiting techniques because it can't just be him in his wheelchair fighting off threats.

 

[Endeavor]

Mutants are thousands of people throughout the Earth and are mostly ordinary people who didn't choose to get mutant abilities, unlike sorcerers who usually work in the shadows.

It doesn't matter. The premise that there are super powered people that have existed all along and "normal" humans either don't know of them or dismiss their existence as just legends and rumors can be applied to mutants as well. Especially if you factor in that certain factions have been helping to keep the mutants a secret, such as shadow organizations or even powerful individuals like Prof X or even the various sorcerers themselves.
The same goes for Inhumans. They also literally existed for thousands of years and were unknown to the general population.
Only after Daisy's mom did the fish contamination thing did it get out of hand and people begin to know of their existence.

 

[Iceman]

Even if people were aware of the mutants that existed it can still be put down to them being regular superpowered people like the other various heroes that were known about. You can't think of someone as a mutant until you know that mutancy exists in the first place. And then how do you tell if someone with superpowers acquired those powers from an accident or from their genetics?

 

[Iceman]

A cardboard cutout would have been better than X1 Sabes

BTW, for those of you who are Marvel gamers, Sabretooth is coming to McoC in a few months.

I was pretty surprised by him when I saw X1.

 

[Marvel united]

It doesn't matter. The premise that there are super powered people that have existed all along and "normal" humans either don't know of them or dismiss their existence as just legends and rumors can be applied to mutants as well. Especially if you factor in that certain factions have been helping to keep the mutants a secret, such as shadow organizations or even powerful individuals like Prof X or even the various sorcerers themselves.
The same goes for Inhumans. They also literally existed for thousands of years and were unknown to the general population.
Only after Daisy's mom did the fish contamination thing did it get out of hand and people begin to know of their existence.

Inhumans is not really canon to the MCU. None of the AOS stuff is really canon, it's basically ignored in the wider MCU. It would be difficult to explain where the X-Men were during any of the huge events in the MCU if they've existed for nearly 30 years already

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Mutant X.

A powerful mutant with reality warping abilities who needs to hop from body to body in order to stay alive, is held in a secret mutant containment facility on Muir Island, cared for by his mother Moira MacTaggert (a geneticist who is studying the mutant X-gene, research which is funded by Charles Xavier). He is Kevin MacTaggert. He resents his mother and wants to be free. He breaks out and goes on a killing spree, hopping from body to body to stay alive and regain his strength. As he gets stronger he starts to warp the reality around him.

Charlies Xavier recruits Wolverine, Storm, Colossus and Nightcrawler to reform the X-Men, a secret team of mutants who ten years prior kept the world safe from mutants and helped kept the existence of mutants a secret from the world. Scott Summers and Jean Grey are the two remaining original students of Xavier's School of the Gifted that stayed on, and are put in charge of the new team. Kitty Pryde is the last new recruit, 18 years old, bridging the gap between the old X-Men (teens) and the new (experienced adults). Their mission is to stop Mutant X from his killing spree before the Government and superhero teams like The Avengers step in. By the end of the story, Mutant X is killed and the world finds out about mutants. The MCU is now forever changed, as the problem with super powered individuals now goes far beyond the Avengers and the Sokovia Accords.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't think Marvel are going to ever use the name Mutant X again, not after that lawsuit between them and Fox over that name. It would just bring up bad memories and feelings.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Why would that even matter at this point?

 

[Dark Raven]

Why would that even matter at this point?

If they're working together now, why bring up a point of contention that created bad feelings before? It prevented Marvel from using the mutant name and was one of the things which created even more of a rift between them.

 

[LaughterLives]

hahaha! I know right. That's some soft/sensitive stuff that no one should care about.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

That was in the past. Xmen and all related properties are probably free game. And I doubt anyone is still harboring bad feelings about a failed show that they had a dispute over 20 year ago.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

If they're working together now, why bring up a point of contention that created bad feelings before? It prevented Marvel from using the mutant name and was one of the things which created even more of a rift between them.

FOX is not working with Marvel. FOX got sold to Disney. The Marvel properties that FOX had are now going to be under Disney/Marvel's control when the deal is finalized. So that stupid ass show and its lawsuit are irrelevant now.

Is that the only response you got to my pitch?

 

[Iceman]

I don't think its impossible to feature 8 main X-Men and develop them well in a single film, while some could cameo to tease the second film. And the more I think about it, maybe its time for a 3 hour Marvel film.

1st film - 1st squad
2nd film - 2nd squad
3rd film - 1st/2nd squad all in 1 movie
4th film - mix up the squads

It seems too ambitious to get 2 separate squad films but if it can happen that would be the ideal for me, and then when they come together things would go into orbit on the hype scale!

 

[I Am The Knight]

Mutant X? Lol.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Inhumans is not really canon to the MCU. None of the AOS stuff is really canon, it's basically ignored in the wider MCU. It would be difficult to explain where the X-Men were during any of the huge events in the MCU if they've existed for nearly 30 years already

Where were the sorcerers before we first saw them in Dr. Strange? They've been around for millennium! Where were Stark and Rhodey in TWS? Etc...etc...etc... These questions will always be there. But in this case, it's easy to explain. The mutants were in hiding.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Anyway... I think Proteus would be a good villain for the first MCU X-Men movie because...

He hasn't been done yet in the FOX movies.

His reality warping powers would make for awesome visuals on screen.

He's Moira MacTaggert's son so it has personal stakes for Xavier.

He's not a big name X-Men villain so it allows us to have a movie that focuses on the team working together and establishing the MCU version of the X-Men, without having to also do justice to Magneto or Apocalypse (you can save them for later).

 

[CaptainCommando]

Mutants don't really need to be a side effect of Thanos. Just say they've always been here and were just now getting to see this side of the world. Or maybe because of the Avengers and the existence of aliens prompted mutants to show themselves.

I agree. In my post the destruction and chaos left by Thanos during Infinity war would be a catalyst for them to come out of hiding (Magneto and the brotherhood in particular) as the world was still trying to recover.