Me and Earl and the Dying Lounge

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the hell with that, stay up and sleep on the flight. flights are boring as ****
 
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Turns out Spock isn't the only secret cartoon Devil worshiper out there.
 
So I've started catching some of the Start Trek Next Generation episodes, and I've read online that a lot of fans didn't like Wesley on the show. Is there a real reason for that? I don't get it, seems like an ambitious character and I think he adds a lot to the episodes I've seen so far. :confused:
 
So I've started catching some of the Start Trek Next Generation episodes, and I've read online that a lot of fans didn't like Wesley on the show. Is there a real reason for that? I don't get it, seems like an ambitious character and I think he adds a lot to the episodes I've seen so far. :confused:

I never had anything against Wesley. Gene came up with Wesley as a mirror to his own adolescence. That said... Wesley does start out in the mold of the stock 80's character of "the genius whiz kid" and I can see how that could grate after a while. Of course for me, TNG is richer and bigger than any one character, sans perhaps Picard.
 
Now was TNG intended as a prequel of sorts to the original ST, or am I thinking of a different series?
 
Now was TNG intended as a prequel of sorts to the original ST, or am I thinking of a different series?

Oh, Vic... Oh... Oh poor uneducated Vic. :csad: :o


TNG takes place many decades after Kirk and crew were galloping across the cosmos. It's quite amazing to think that they captured lightning in a bottle again, especially when you consider how divisive TNG was among fans at the start. If there had been a functioning Internet in 1987 when TNG first aired... Oh man... the meltdowns that would have been witnessed.
 
we havent had a good meltdown in a while
 
There's almost nothing of interest to talk about with lots of franchises in film right now. But we got STAR WARS, BOND and then BVS coming up and the Fall TV season has just kicked in. But you see that there's a lack of info when it comes to Marvel/DC things right now. It'll pick up soon.
 
I like the Enterprise series the most so far, it's kind of hard for me to get into the other ST shows after being as immersed as I was into those characters. I guess it's weird for me cause I watched it first, where as older Star Trek fans probably saw TNG or the original series first.

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Oh, Vic... Oh... Oh poor uneducated Vic. :csad: :o


TNG takes place many decades after Kirk and crew were galloping across the cosmos. It's quite amazing to think that they captured lightning in a bottle again, especially when you consider how divisive TNG was among fans at the start. If there had been a functioning Internet in 1987 when TNG first aired... Oh man... the meltdowns that would have been witnessed.

Oh there were meltdowns. I read about how an angry Trekkie threw a cup of vomit at someone associated with the show at a con way, way, way back when.

My...ah, my ST experience begins and ends with the Elite Force games.:o

@Reek: There won't be any banners. I had a moment of weakness and fed them to R'hollor. I do have some smores though.
 
Oh there were meltdowns. I read about how an angry Trekkie threw a cup of vomit at someone associated with the show at a con way, way, way back when.

My...ah, my ST experience begins and ends with the Elite Force games.:o

@Reek: There won't be any banners. I had a moment of weakness and fed them to R'hollor. I do have some smores though.

Hey, ST is not for everyone. For myself, TOS was ubiquitous when I was a child and then when I was 11 TNG started. It was amazing how people really did lose their minds. That was the start of my... I don't want to say distancing myself from fan culture, after all I am here posting on the Hype, but... Yeah, there is an uneasiness I have with fan culture. I mean, I grew up loving TOS, and when TNG came along, I was like, "Okay... I'll give it a shot." But man... So many I knew hated it on the general principal... And it was created by the same man that created Trek in the first place! Around this time I also went to the first of about 3 conventions. And... I saw these arguments and the intensity of some that just made me go... "I don't want to be that guy."

It's like, I went to this exhibition of the props and costumes of STAR WARS about ten years back at the Brooklyn Museum of Art. A friend took me cuz he and the wife were members but he needed me as a wing man as his wife had no real interest in it. So, this thing was quite interesting with the actual robes Guiness wore or the original model of the Star Destroyer from a New Hope and on and on... But there were TONS of people walking around in full costumes! And they weren't there as part of the Museum staff or something... These were people coming to the exhibition. And it wasn't one or two... It was a lot. I don't... I just have a problem with that, sorry if that offends anyone. Hell, it's a free country, and there are definitely worse things to do for sure. But... I am just uneasy with that sort of fan stuff. I don't know... I can see how someone would think I am being too judgmental.
 
I've seen a bit of passive aggressiveness in the Magic fandom. Back when they put out novels that tied into the cards, which I enjoyed as a kid, there was all the usual stuff you'd expect from a fandom. You paint a pretty good picture in your story, Kryptin. Anyway, I got out of it for a pretty good while and jumped back in briefly in 2010. I picked up one of the new novels and thoroughly enjoyed it.

The novel told the story of a guy that grew up in the ghettos of a world ruled by sphinxes where humans were obsessed with replacing their flesh with various types of metal. Certain metals were precious commodities, and this guy was determined to claw his way to the top of this futuristic, scientific yet barbaric society. Anyway, what I really appreciated is that the book was written like the protagonist actually came from a low income neighborhood.

I go back into my old stomping grounds to discuss the book and find that the majority's offended that a character who grew up in the slums, in the rough part of town...spoke and acted like someone from that sort of neighborhood. Actually, a lot of the characters were written in a way that I took to show what kind of upbringing and background they had (as opposed to paragraphs telling me this). I enjoyed it, but it apparently upset their sheltered sensibilities.

So that's my crazy fandom story.
 
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