Fant4stic Michael B Jordan is "Flame On!" The Human Torch - Part 2

[Paradox1]

That's not exactly the same.The natural assumption was that he had a black wife.Here the speculations will run rampant.Are they step-siblings?(niether look bi-racial)Were their adopted parents black or white or one of each?It needs some form of explanation or it'll come off very awkward.

Whether they are adopted, biracial, or step siblings the bond they have is by far the most important aspect. We all have family or know people with family for whatever reason are family in name alone. These people don't even like each other a little bit and only see each other on holidays if that. We also know people who are not related but when your around them they feel like family.

 

[lordofthenerds]

If someone gets confused over a biracial family, then he or she is either really stupid or ignorant. You would have to live in a little bubble where the idea of biracial families doesn't exist or is completely absurd.

Yep. And everyone who's seen a biracial family knows that Kate Mara doesn't look the least bit biracial.

 

[JP]

Neither does Cameron Diaz.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Cameron Diaz's father is of Spanish ancestry. She's not biracial really.

 

[Picard Sisko]

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin

Okay. So let's say they are stupid. That doesn't change anything.

Is it supposed to change anything? If people are stupid enough to be confused by biracial families, then that's their own problem.

Just a quick question because I'm curious. This is for the posters that say people will understand immediately and it doesn't need to be explained.

How many of you are from the South and/or rural America like I am?

I'm a city person.

 

[Tymminator]

Yep. And everyone who's seen a biracial family knows that Kate Mara doesn't look the least bit biracial.

I have to state for the record I am not in favor of this reboot in any way, but that said, I just want to address that this statement is FALSE.

I am black (although light skinned) and have several other family members who range from much darker to my complexion. In this family, I have several family members who married others of different races. Of this, I have SEVERAL cases where when it was a mixed marriage between black and white, it was not uncommon in my family where I have relatives who straight up look white.

My sister (RIP) married a white man and had two kids, her daughter kind of looks like her, but her son looks EXACTLY like the dad, with blond hair and all.

Basically, I'm just saying that a mixed race kid can often look like "mixed", but it's not by any means impossible to have one that favors one parent over the other. You can have a kid who looks straight up white, and again, I know this personally as I have nephews, nieces, cousins, 2nd cousins that prove this.

 

[JP]

My whole family is mixed. My mom is white as snow, my older sister is the same, my younger brother is as dark as MBJ, and I'm somewhere in between. Because of this, most think my brother is black, my sister is white, and I'm Spanish.


In reality we're all a mixture of the three.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Which has absolutely NOTHING to do with Johnny Storm.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Is it supposed to change anything? If people are stupid enough to be confused by biracial families, then that's their own problem.

It could also translate into being Fox's problem. That's all I'm saying.

I'm a city person.

Thanks for answering. I hoped to get a better response from other posters, but I do appreciate that you took time to answer.

There are some deep cultural differences between different parts of the country, and I am suspicious that it might have something to do with the vastly different opinions on this. I don't know that it is the case, but I am curious whether there is something to those suspicions or not.

So once again, thank you.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It could also translate into being Fox's problem. That's all I'm saying.



Thanks for answering. I hoped to get a better response from other posters, but I do appreciate that you took time to answer.

There are some deep cultural differences between different parts of the country, and I am suspicious that it might have something to do with the vastly different opinions on this. I don't know that it is the case, but I am curious whether there is something to those suspicions or not.

So once again, thank you.

I split my youth between the suburbs of Ohio and NYC. I am not sure if location is the key correlation so much as what era FF you prefer. Kind of like Spidey fans. Fans of the 60s-80s Spider-Man (like me) tend to love Raimi's films and don't like TASM as much. Fans of the USM era of Spidey tend to hate Raimi and love Webb. I think this is the stronger indicator.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I split my youth between the suburbs of Ohio and NYC. I am not sure if location is the key correlation so much as what era FF you prefer. Kind of like Spidey fans. Fans of the 60s-80s Spider-Man (like me) tend to love Raimi's films and don't like TASM as much. Fans of the USM era of Spidey tend to hate Raimi and love Webb. I think this is the stronger indicator.

Sorry. I mean more about the idea of not understanding that to a lot of people interracial siblings are unusual. Heck interracial marriage was still banned by the South Carolina state constitution until 1998! Alabama until 2000!

Yeah for the film in general it definitely seems to be more of generational thing. I also greatly prefer the Raimi Spider-Man films to TASM.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I split my youth between the suburbs of Ohio and NYC. I am not sure if location is the key correlation so much as what era FF you prefer. Kind of like Spidey fans. Fans of the 60s-80s Spider-Man (like me) tend to love Raimi's films and don't like TASM as much. Fans of the USM era of Spidey tend to hate Raimi and love Webb. I think this is the stronger indicator.

I can only speak for myself, but I was born in 1976 and I find I like TAS-M more than SPIDER-MAN 1 by a great margin.

People really could not handle Jeff Goldblum having a black daughter in JP II? But... The totally fictional islands with free range genetically engineered dinosaurs was peachy keen? That a dude like Ian Malcom would get freaky deeky with a chocolate lady is MORE distracting too the narrative and LESS believable to some than living and breathing dinosaurs?

Zod help us all...

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I can only speak for myself, but I was born in 1976 and I find I like TAS-M more than SPIDER-MAN 1 by a great margin.

People really could not handle Jeff Goldblum having a black daughter in JP II? But... The totally fictional islands with free range genetically engineered dinosaurs was peachy keen? That a dude like Ian Malcom would get freaky deeky with a chocolate lady is MORE distracting too the narrative and LESS believable to some than living and breathing dinosaurs?

Zod help us all...

Welcome to America... What else can I say?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I can only speak for myself, but I was born in 1976 and I find I like TAS-M more than SPIDER-MAN 1 by a great margin.

People really could not handle Jeff Goldblum having a black daughter in JP II? But... The totally fictional islands with free range genetically engineered dinosaurs was peachy keen? That a dude like Ian Malcom would get freaky deeky with a chocolate lady is MORE distracting too the narrative and LESS believable to some than living and breathing dinosaurs?

Zod help us all...

You know what the number 1 thing people complained about when they watched Captain America: The First Avenger with me was? "Why does the Red Skull's bombs have cities written in English on them? Aren't they German?"

Everything else, they're cool with. THIS is what they notice. Something mundane and minor.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I didn't even notice that. I was too distracted by all the Nazis/Hydra Agents talking to each other in English for most of the movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I didn't even notice that. I was too distracted by all the Nazis/Hydra Agents talking to each other in English for most of the movie.

Oh yeah, well...shut up!!!

 

[Picard Sisko]

Thanks for answering. I hoped to get a better response from other posters, but I do appreciate that you took time to answer.

There are some deep cultural differences between different parts of the country, and I am suspicious that it might have something to do with the vastly different opinions on this. I don't know that it is the case, but I am curious whether there is something to those suspicions or not.

So once again, thank you.

No problem. New York is more liberal than many rural areas in the country, especially in the South. I wonder if it is a regional thing?

 

[Poetic Chaos]

A majority of the most popular superheroes were created in a time when there was no diversity in the media. They're not white because their stories dictated it but because their audience did. It says a lot that people are okay with minorities playing supporting roles (Perry White, Alicia Masters, Heimdall) but the leads HAVE to adhere to "canon." I'm not playing the race card, I'm just saying we're living in different times than when these characters were created and it's okay for them to reflect that.

 

[Picard Sisko]

A majority of the most popular superheroes were created in a time when there was no diversity in the media. They're not white because their stories dictated it but because their audience did. It says a lot that people are okay with minorities playing supporting roles (Perry White, Alicia Masters, Heimdall) but the leads HAVE to adhere to "canon." I'm not playing the race card, I'm just saying we're living in different times than when these characters were created and it's okay for them to reflect that.

Thank you. I'm sure if a lot of these characters were created today, they wouldn't all be white. A lot has changed since the 1960s...

 

[Kelly]

You know what the number 1 thing people complained about when they watched Captain America: The First Avenger with me was? "Why does the Red Skull's bombs have cities written in English on them? Aren't they German?"

Everything else, they're cool with. THIS is what they notice. Something mundane and minor.

I would have totally noticed that.....that kind of thing drives me crazy, and it is sloppy direction in my opinion.

 

[Picard Sisko]

You just have to suspend your belief. It's like whenever foreigners in another are speaking English in a movie, I see it as they are actually speaking their own language, but we hear it as English so we can understand it.

 

[The Guard]

What bothered me more was that the Red Skull put labels on the bombs, like "Here's my plan, stop me!"

It'd be one thing if there were just bombs, but if he hadn't labeled them, Cap probably wouldn't have figured out the exact nature of his plans quite so easily.

He probably still would have been foiled though. Being The Red Skull and all.

 

[BestGirl]

It could also translate into being Fox's problem. That's all I'm saying.



Thanks for answering. I hoped to get a better response from other posters, but I do appreciate that you took time to answer.

There are some deep cultural differences between different parts of the country, and I am suspicious that it might have something to do with the vastly different opinions on this. I don't know that it is the case, but I am curious whether there is something to those suspicions or not.

So once again, thank you.

I'm neither from the South nor from the countryside. To me, though, where an audience member is from is not the issue. One does not need to have personally met biracial families to be aware that they exist. Knowing that a child from one race can be adopted by a family of a different race is just common sense.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I would have totally noticed that.....that kind of thing drives me crazy, and it is sloppy direction in my opinion.

I see why it was done though. The primary audience for the movie is in America. Most of us here don't speak German, or would recognize the German names of cities on a bomb. So, they made it easier for us. No Cap awkwardly talking to himself, no subtitle to understand what it says, etc. It was purely for our conveniance.

 

[Figs]

I can't believe people are complaining about the names of American cities on German bombs. So how exactly do you say Chicago or Florida in German?