Apocalypse Michael Fassbender is Magneto!

[Krak66]

Does anyone else think it was a huge mistake...

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to give him a family? We knew they were cannon fodder from the second we saw them and as it turns out that was their only purpose.

They should have sent him to Asteroid M

 

[DACrowe]

I think Fassbender was the best part of this movie. He really held it together. Yes his family was obviously doomed, so it is a credit to Fassbender that he was able to sell the pain and humanity there. He really elevated this movie as much as possible and really was on another level from the material.

I also like the end but hope it means we are done with seeing Magneto as a villain. I know that in the comics he always reverts, but we have been down that road a lot in the movies, and this felt like him and Charles finally coming to an understanding.

 

[ciscostudent561]

Does anyone else think it was a huge mistake...

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to give him a family? We knew they were cannon fodder from the second we saw them and as it turns out that was their only purpose.

Yea,
I think more time coulda been spent developing Apocalypse.
With Magneto's notoriety he coulda found him in the same position and promised him power for revolution.
It would be more compelling that after gaining this power, Magneto realizes his mistake and turns on Apoc.
I just think that time would have been better further developing Apocalypse.

All in all, though, if this movie was about one character it was Magneto imo, so i get the backdrop. I just think it was unneccessary and woulda benefited the movie great to flesh out Apocalypse's relationship with the world.

 

[Sithborg]

That said,

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I am glad that they avoided the cliche "Peter reveals that is his son and makes Magneto have a change of heart" route. It would've been too easy to go that way.

 

[Tg11]

To me Fassbender now he is Magneto not McKellen

 

[The Guard]

He was just fantastic. Some very powerful emotional moments played to perfection. I think the

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father/son thing is somewhat ambiguous, in terms of whether Magneto knows.

 

[xrs13]

I was glad they

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didnt do the father/son thing too, but I wonder whether it would have been a better idea to actually have Mystique say it when Quicksilver was stopped by Apocalypse and was almost about to die.

That way it would have made Magneto act against apoc.

 

[ImOctavius]

I just want to say that the new outfit is awesome.

 

[Xrated48]

Fassbender again steals the show as Magneto.

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when his wife and daughter were kiled I couldn't help but shed a tear

 

[The Caped Knight]

I felt bad for Erik, he tried to live an ordinary life and even went as far to save a man from getting killed by molten and in the end he gets in trouble and his family suffers for it!

 

[LostSon88]

Man I felt for Erik. I mean, He tried man, he really tried to go the straight route and in the end he got boned for saving a mans life? For actually doing the right thing?

I loved that piece of dialogue when Charles was in his head and he straight told him that he legitimately tried his way and in end it cost him everything.

You totally understood why he turned against humanity again.

 

[CB Fan]

Some great stuff from Magneto but then again he always has great stuff. He is overused and needs to be absent for at least a couple of films. The X-Men have a pretty great rogues gallery yet six X-movies in we are still dealing with Magneto. I did like seeing the force field they've been wanting to do that since the DoFP storyboards.

 

[Loki882]

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I feel like the family thing worked. Yeah they were obviously cannon fodder from second #1, but I think that it gives him a better reason to join with Apocalypse. The idea that "he tried to go legit, he tried to live a normal life, he tried to do it Xavier's way, and he even saves a man. And, it costs him everything." It gives him a much more interesting and emotional reason to join forces with Apocalypse rather than just "I still hate humans, give me power." And it also makes his change of heart at the end far more believable as well.

 

[StormC]

It's an amazing stroke of luck that Magneto has had two pitch perfect portrayals in both Sir Ian and Fassbender - and they're both portraying the same version of the character!

 

[Retroman]

Fassbender was fantastic from start to finish. I loved his entire arc especially those moments in Poland.

Like others, i wouldn't mind having him sit out one or two movies. Seeing another major X-Men villain introduced to mix things up a little would be nice. When Magneto returns i would love to see him on Genosha (with white hair!). That seems like the most logical step forward for the character.

OMG, OMG, OMG. I just realized. [BLACKOUT]They gave him the forcefield!!!!![/BLACKOUT]

Yeah, that was great!

BTW i thought that [BLACKOUT] first scene with Nina and the animals was adorable and very....Disney[/BLACKOUT].lol

 

[Mutant 77]

It's VERY believable that in this new timeline Charles respects Erik and also wants to find a way to redeem him. He's not a villain like he was in the 2 Timeline Primes.

First Class: he was an X-Man.
DOFP: he was sealed in a prison because he had been framed. Then, he just tried to kill the President and wipe out the whole Sentinels program.
Apocalypse: he had lost his family (murdered). He was under the influence of Apocalypse; Oscar Isaac confirmed it was the power of persuasion in play, because En Sabah Nur gets this power.
In the end, Magneto turns into an X-Man again and helps the guys to kill Apocalypse.
What's the problem?

 

[henzINNIT]

Fassbender continues to add great intensity to the franchise here. It's not hard to see why he is many people's favourite thing about this generation.

... I just wished I liked his story more.

Like Lawrence's Mystique, it feels like Singer is struggling to contrive reasons to bring everyone together again. There's not a lot left to learn from putting Erik and Charles together, so it feels a lot like the film just moves them about on the board to make the same story feel new again. He starts out good here, then goes bad, then goes good again, so that's different, cause normally he's bad, then good, then bad. Meh. I've heard complaints about repetition before, but it was only here when it started to crumble to me.

Unlike Mystique though (who is back and still freeing captive mutants) this Magneto story doesn't even seem like a logical progression from DOFP. It's like a film is missing in the middle, that would presumably explain how he went from rallying mutant forces to settling down with a wife and kid. It's quite a jarring leap on its own, however it is ultimately sunk by the fact that you know from the first shot that this perfect family are canon fodder.

So he gets a new villain origin story of sorts, which is less interesting than the first and doesn't add any new layers to his character. It solely exists to justify his decision to side with Apocalypse, who will exploit his sadness and nothing else. This is already a waste, as it glosses over Erik's own world view. He isn't acting for a reason. He is grieving. Erik then overwhelms the other horsemen who could have had stories of their own.

A strong performance can only carry things so far. I think Magneto is a huge problem with this film, and it may have fared better without him.

It's VERY believable that in this new timeline Charles respects Erik and also wants to find a way to redeem him. He's not a villain like he was in the 2 Timeline Primes.

First Class: he was an X-Man.
DOFP: he was sealed in a prison because he had been framed. Then, he just tried to kill the President and wipe out the whole Sentinels program.
Apocalypse: he had lost his family (murdered). He was under the influence of Apocalypse; Oscar Isaac confirmed it was the power of persuasion in play, because En Sabah Nur gets this power.
In the end, Magneto turns into an X-Man again and helps the guys to kill Apocalypse.
What's the problem?

The problem is that he is a mass murderer. He's not the villain presented in the OT, you're right. He's killed many more people this time around.

-FIRST CLASS-
He was an X-Man in First Class until he decided to kill the villain and persue his mission for mutant dominance. At this point, Charles saw that the two do not want the same thing.

-DOFP-
"Just" tried to kill the president? How is that a "just"? Charles reluctantly teams with Erik here only to be imediately betrayed again when Erik turns to murdering Mystique to save the day. Erik then attempts to assassinate the president in a public display of mutant supremecy.

-APOCALYPSE-
A tragic incident does not excuse global genocide. Charles might always try to tap into the good side of Erik, but it is just bonkers to think that the pair bid farewell on good terms after Erik nearly destroyed the world out of grief and Apocalypse cool-aid. Charles handed Erik over to authorities in X1 for much less, for good reason.

 

[superweirdo87]

I don't think it was a mistake to give Magneto a family. I think after DOFP, it was plausible for Erik to settle down because he had his helmet taken from him, so Charles could stop him.

I hate where they went with Erik's family, using it s a springboard to join Apocalypse. I think in the comics, the power of the story comes from the realization that no matter what Erik does, he winds up in terrible places. It makes him sympathetic. One of the powerful things about First Class and the comics is they leave you understanding Magneto and feeling like he is right.

That was lacking in this movie. I just hate the way they handled it. I think that the Apocalypse storyline was a bad choice for a movie that wanted to conclude a storyline for the First Class crew and introduce Scott, Jean, and Storm.

 

[Legion]

It was really dumb of Xavier to let Magneto go at the end of DoFP.

The fact that Magneto turned to the darkside again in this film made that decision seem even more dumb. And then Xavier just lets him off the hook again. Notice a pattern?

With Apocalypse as the big bad in this it would have been better to just make Magneto a 100% genuine ally in this. That actually would have been refreshing for a change.

 

[GuestStar2004]

It was really dumb of Xavier to let Magneto go at the end of DoFP.

The fact that Magneto turned to the darkside again in this film made that decision seem even more dumb. And then Xavier just lets him off the hook again. Notice a pattern?

As Magneto pointed out at the end of Apocalypse Xavier can make him do whatever he wants but Xavier likely wants to have faith in eric that he will do the right thing by himself

With Apocalypse as the big bad in this it would have been better to just make Magneto a 100% genuine ally in this. That actually would have been refreshing for a change.

How refreshing though? he was an ally in FC for 95% of the movie

if anything him turning against apocalypse and siding with the X-Men is mean't to show redemption

 

[psylockolussus]

I completely agree with you Legion!

 

[henzINNIT]

As Magneto pointed out at the end of Apocalypse Xavier can make him do whatever he wants but Xavier likely wants to have faith in eric that he will do the right thing by himself

Which just comes off as recklessly naive after everything Charles has witnessed.

I don't think it was a mistake to give Magneto a family. I think after DOFP, it was plausible for Erik to settle down because he had his helmet taken from him, so Charles could stop him.

I hate where they went with Erik's family, using it s a springboard to join Apocalypse. I think in the comics, the power of the story comes from the realization that no matter what Erik does, he winds up in terrible places. It makes him sympathetic. One of the powerful things about First Class and the comics is they leave you understanding Magneto and feeling like he is right.

That was lacking in this movie. I just hate the way they handled it. I think that the Apocalypse storyline was a bad choice for a movie that wanted to conclude a storyline for the First Class crew and introduce Scott, Jean, and Storm.

I think Apocalypse was chosen as the next most notable villain in the roster, and for no other reason. None of the interesting character material is really tied to him.

Would it have been more interesting if Erik's new life was created by Charles? At some point in the 10 years since DOFP, Xavier got into Magneto's head and forced him to retreat. It would parallel Moira quite well. The 'second origin' of losing his new family would be even more tragic as well.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

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I feel like the family thing worked. Yeah they were obviously cannon fodder from second #1, but I think that it gives him a better reason to join with Apocalypse. The idea that "he tried to go legit, he tried to live a normal life, he tried to do it Xavier's way, and he even saves a man. And, it costs him everything." It gives him a much more interesting and emotional reason to join forces with Apocalypse rather than just "I still hate humans, give me power." And it also makes his change of heart at the end far more believable as well.

This, he had the best arc in the movie and despite doing terrible things, Fassbender still made you sympathise with him. I loved his turn at the end, it turned the 'Magneto always ends up being the villain' trope on its head is finally something different for the franchise.

Magnetos storyline is also the emotional through line of the movie and Fassy does brilliant selling the whole thing.

 

[dika123]

Is magneto will be new kingpin?
I see spoiler in Old man loga story

https://youtu.be/gwHQbc_PfzY

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

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Never explicitly stated where Erick is in this new timeline. Let alone Raven or the "classic" members we saw happy and alive at the end of Days of Future Past.