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Action-Adventure Mortal Kombat 2

Hot take: the Mortal Kombat franchise is at its best when it’s full on camp, has fun and doesn’t take itself too seriously. The more dramatic, edgy, excessively gory and “deep” it tries to make everything, the less interested I become. The stories of the last few games have shown that the more it tries to move away from what made it what it is and attempts to aim for higher and more lofty narrative aspirations and writing, it just ends up falling flat for me. It wants to be Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones, but in actuality, it’s just Big Trouble in Little China with more fantasy and gore.

Now, am I saying that the characters, story and world shouldn’t receive proper flashing out and development? Absolutely not. But pretending that this series is some sacred and serious holy work of fiction that deserves to be honored, never strayed from and that any change in adaptation is sacrilegious is frankly absurd. People didn’t come to the franchise because of it’s deep lore, story and character backstories. They came to it because they like seeing memorable and colorful characters fighting and beating the crap out of each other in various ridiculous ways in a tournament in a bunch of crazy environments.

That’s why when the new trailer for MKII was released and people online started complaining, it had me perplexed. I mean, it has Johnny Cage being Johnny Cage, Shao Khan being Shao Khan by being cheap and wrecking fools, Kitana, Jade, Baraka, Jax, Sonya Blade, over-the-top and bloody fatalities, unique and crazy environments/stages, Scorpion fighting Noob Saibot, Scorpion shouting “Get over here!”, etc. All of the trademarks of the franchise are there. Not exactly the same as in the games, but they’re there.

It looks like big, dumb gory fun, which is what the franchise is at its core. If you’re a longtime fan and it’s not meeting your expectations, I sympathize. Those being fans of this franchise for so long and not seeing it adapted on screen at least close to the way that you envisioned it sucks (like the whole Cole Young debacle, which I totally agree was dumb). I can relate on some level (see Michael Bay’s Transformers films). However, even I’m open to different takes on that franchise as long as they get what it’s supposed to be about. I don’t always like all of them, but because they miss the point and are just badly written, not because they tried something different. And that’s okay.

As someone who has only a casual and passing interest in this property, I just don’t see what the problem is and I’d like to understand why.

I feel the same. I think the MK lore is so inherently ridiculous and over the top that it just doesn't work when it's done too seriously. Just an example like that you have a serious ninja that can do ice magic, and he actually calls himself Sub Zero. That's just funny. That's why I feel like Johnny Cage becomes the least ridiculous character because he's at least played as intentionally ridiculous, so he just works.

I remember being quite bored when playing the story of MK11 because it was mostly just serious and I don't think the material supports that (I also miss getting to just pick my own character instead of being forced to play all of them, although I do get how it makes storytelling easier). It's fine that parts are serious as you can use the straight parts to heighten the fun parts, and I think they at least got that better in MK1. There I at least had characters like Johnny Cage and the overly cheesy Shang Tsung just continuously make it fun.
 
I enjoyed the more serious take that the last movie was. We'll see how this one goes; Johnny Cage isn't actually my favorite Mortal Kombat character.
 
The first three, four games could've been great fodder for an HBO TV show. Fantasy, colorful and interesting characters, action, gore and violence, with sex appeal. Game Of Thrones had a lot of the same ingredients when it was very successful.
The difference is that Game of Thrones is a highly acclaimed, high concept, well written fantasy series. Mortal Kombat, at best, is dumb, fun and gory B-movie level schlock with some memorable and colorful characters, some passable clever writing and great action, and at worst poorly conceived, dark and edgy fanfiction a teenage boy came up.

Also, “lore”? They’ve rebooted the franchise 2 times within the past nearly 15 years, 3 if what I think will happen with the next game comes to pass after the reception to the last game’s story. MK9 reset the board and ended with the promise of a new and fresh direction. MKX decides to go in that new direction by introducing a new and younger supporting cast of characters and have Raiden go evil by the end. But the fans don’t like that, and instead of sticking to their guns, and following through, they completely erase evil Raiden from existence by literally writing him out of the game’s story through time travel shenanigans in an effort to go back to basics, and by the end reboot the franchise again with the promise of “No, really, we’re really doing something new this time”. At the beginning of MK1, everything seems promising, but, of course, they just can’t help themselves and have Elder God Liu Kang make some of the most dumb and contrived decisions which lead to certain things going back to some semblance of the old status quo and the introduction of the old multiverse gimmick by the end of the game, which is not the same as doing the timeline stuff again but actually is, so they can have their cake and eat it too.

Ed Boon and co. can’t even keep their own lore straight, be consistent and just stick with something and just go with it. They re-introduce old characters, get rid of them or kill them off, bring them back, kill them off again, and reset things to give us new versions of the character characters but a bit different until they revert to becoming like their original incarnations. And, I’m sure with the next game, whenever that comes out, they’ll just reset everything again for a fresh start which they’ll probably also reboot as well at some point because they can’t stick to their guns. They can’t decide whether they want to stick with what they originally had or try new things, and it’s just made things so needlessly and ridiculously convoluted.

Again, I say, what established “lore” and “characters“? There have been different and multiple iterations and takes on these beloved characters and the story that I don’t see how doing things a bit differently is such a bad thing. If the people who are making the games had done exactly the same kind of story and treated the characters (minus Cole Young) the same way that they’re doing in this movie, I guarantee you everyone would’ve ate it up and loved it.
 
I will agree that Liu Kang should have been the lead, and I think that had Johnny Cage not been our fish-out-of-water for this sequel, I think that this probably could've been Liu Kang's time to shine.

More so considering both Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn are alive, and if we're finally getting a tournament, then Liu Kang needs to best one or both of them.

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Liu Kang beat Goro and Shang Tsung in MK1
He beat Kintaro and Shao Kahn in MK2
He beat again Kahn in MK3
He beat Shinnok in MK4

and in 1st reboot, he just fought Kabal with hardness


I wish Kintaro would make an appearance in this sequel
Nitara and some others characters in first one were not revealed until the movie release and hadnt their own individual poster
 
It was supposed to come out in October. It seemed like a good release date IMO.
Less about the release date and more to do with WB not having a lot next year after having a great year this year. Really sucks because I was hyped. Blah.
 
Like isn't the movie basically finished? Does WB REALLY think delaying it 7 months gunna make it mo money?
 
Less about the release date and more to do with WB not having a lot next year after having a great year this year. Really sucks because I was hyped. Blah.

Which makes no sense to me. A week before Mando? Yeah, I'm not expecting a $200 mil opening, but come on. There is no way MK will succeed there. Yeah, I think Black Phone 2 will cause some issues with MK 2, but not to the extent that May will cause.

I expect to hear about reshoots in the coming weeks.
 
Which makes no sense to me. A week before Mando? Yeah, I'm not expecting a $200 mil opening, but come on. There is no way MK will succeed there. Yeah, I think Black Phone 2 will cause some issues with MK 2, but not to the extent that May will cause.

I expect to hear about reshoots in the coming weeks.
Why would the Mando scare anyone?
 
I think a movie that opened to $23 mil, only made $43 mil, would be a bit more hesitant about big blockbusters. Even with the pandemic asterik.
Pandemic asterisk? It came out in April 2021 day and date on Max. That's not an asterisk, that's the whole sentence.

Why do you think the Mando is a big blockbuster?
 
It's clear that Warner Bros. wants one more summer blockbuster for 2026 and MKII is the best bet for that.

Minecraft/Superman worked out for them, they're betting on MKII/Supergirl.

And yeah, the first movie's box office performance shouldn't really be taken into account. We were in the midst of COVID and it was released during AT&T's Project Popcorn blunder.
 
Like isn't the movie basically finished? Does WB REALLY think delaying it 7 months gunna make it mo money?

It is finished, the MPA rating is on the revised poster and website.

I honestly expected it to move, either up to the first weekend in October or counter programming for the November or December 2025 tentpoles. (I think considering how big the trailer blew up on social media, it would’ve done fine against Avatar 3.)

But mid May? Really? If I was going to move it to 2026, it wouldn’t be a week before Memorial Day. I would’ve moved it to mid February or early March.
 
Pandemic asterisk? It came out in April 2021 day and date on Max. That's not an asterisk, that's the whole sentence.

Why do you think the Mando is a big blockbuster?

I was just thinking at how it did worse than The Suicide Squad...

And it may not completely die against Mando, which granted, I doubt is going to be huge, but I still see it being solid on numbers. And even if SW is a bit weak internationally, MK is even weaker. Sort of hard to build a fanbase if your game is banned.

And I dunno. Pushing your movie back nearly half a year 2 months before release does not feel like a move of confidence.
 
lool so there releasing this while GTA6 drops that month aswell. Morons
 
What does this mean? It means the movie is good and they want to give it a better spot? Or the movie is bad and it needs more time?
 
What does this mean? It means the movie is good and they want to give it a better spot? Or the movie is bad and it needs more time?
I dont think you release a trailer with a release date if you think a film is bad and needs more time only to push it back out of nowhere.

Just WB being messy
 
What does this mean? It means the movie is good and they want to give it a better spot? Or the movie is bad and it needs more time?

It absolutely is not in a better spot. Had 2 weeks before Predator, and now 1 week before Mando. And while I am quite low on box office expectations for Mando, I am confident it will be bigger than Predator.

Keep in mind, filming has been done since Jan 2024. So, them releasing a trailer a month before changing the date does not necessarily mean they are confident. Frankly, such a long delay suggests that they are waiting for a good time for reshoots where Urban can shave for them.
 

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