The Dark Knight MUST be 'R' Rated...

Visionary said:
Great, so now I've never read a Batman comic, based on your asinine conclusion, that's real sporting of you to say. And at the very least, although it was more sarcasm than anything, we could see what was going on during the fight scenes in The Lion King. :o

Okay, you want me to be more specific?

Knight of the Magical Light said:
An R-rated Batman movie is logical because of the "ADULT" content/situations that's in his comics.

Name one Batman comic, by issue #, that contains "adult content."

Here, it's watered-down to its very last compound.

If you mean matching the comics in tone, I agree.

The comic book themselves are more graphic and adult oriented then the movies...

NO, THEY ARE NOT. Again, I challenge you to tell me - no, SCAN FOR ME a page from one of this "graphic, adult-oriented" Batman comics that you go on and on about endlessly.

Look at the piss poor fight scenes in Batman Begins, what the hell was that? I've seen better and more brutal fight scenes in THE LION KING!

Really? I don't remember bone-breaking, head-butting, or flying tackles in The Lion King, but then I only saw it once because a young girl cousin of mine wanted me to watch it with her, long ago.

Now then. If you're through talking bullcrap, put your money where your mouth is, or shut the mouth. One of the two.
 
Whoa, and I thought I was the bad guy in these threads. JK.:woot:
 
Keyser Sushi said:
Okay, you want me to be more specific?



Name one Batman comic, by issue #, that contains "adult content."



If you mean matching the comics in tone, I agree.



NO, THEY ARE NOT. Again, I challenge you to tell me - no, SCAN FOR ME a page from one of this "graphic, adult-oriented" Batman comics that you go on and on about endlessly.



Really? I don't remember bone-breaking, head-butting, or flying tackles in The Lion King, but then I only saw it once because a young girl cousin of mine wanted me to watch it with her, long ago.

Now then. If you're through talking bullcrap, put your money where your mouth is, or shut the mouth. One of the two.
Do you really need me to scan pictures, you've must of read The Killing Joke, Hush, The Long Halloween, and the one the damn sequel is named after The Dark Knight Returns? These are all books that lend themselves to an R-rated film, that has adult content in them. I didn't see one damn thing that was as dark and gritty or as adult-oriented as these books in Begins. And I don't see it happening in a PG-13 rated sequel.

Oh, and rent those movies I told you about, so you can truly see what dark and gritty films looks like....not just scenes shot at night.
 
Enough with this thread already. Bale already stated that Chris Nolan can do a dark Batman film without being rated R. Besides the Batman Begins trilogy is not a comic book movie it is a movie BASED on a comic book operative word is BASED. I know we all want a violent bad ass Batman film but it's never going to happened because the BIG DOGS and when I say BIG DOGS I mean the studio and the people who finance the movie is never going to let it happen. THE DARK KNIGHT implies that the next film will be darker and more grittier so let's just wait and see what happeneds and let's see how talented Nolan truly is if he can make a serious dark rated pg-13 movie. I meant to say Darker then Batman Begins because let's face it Batman Begins is pretty dark.
 
Aaaaah yes...THE BIG DOGS...you should have told me this sooner...there would have been no need for these words.:cool:
 
Yea, I think PG-13 now can be close to as gritty as a R movie used to be without gore, horror, and nudity. We don't need nudity or horror and the gore is a little to much of a push.

But to the point if Nolan could/would do a R rated Batman....yeah, I think he'd do it. An R rated Batman on Halloween :batman:, now that would be gore and scary :eek:. JK.
 
On one hand I want a truly terrifying Joker....on the other hand I still want kids to see this movie.

I think what you guys are aguing about above is psychological horror compared to visual gore and violence. Yeah certain comics are quite psychologically graphic. Superhero movies aren't usually too good at doing this, but Nolan probably has something special in mind. I don't know enough about ratings to question whether an 'R' is delivered to what is implied on screen or what is actually shown.

Then again I saw B89 when i was six and that has outright murders shown in it so whatever, I dunno. I mean we don't actually need to see rape, torture or real-life illegal drugs or anything do we?
 
Visionary said:
Do you really need me to scan pictures, you've must of read The Killing Joke, Hush, The Long Halloween, and the one the damn sequel is named after The Dark Knight Returns? These are all books that lend themselves to an R-rated film, that has adult content in them. I didn't see one damn thing that was as dark and gritty or as adult-oriented as these books in Begins. And I don't see it happening in a PG-13 rated sequel.

You're funny. I'm familiar with those stories and there is NOTHING in any of them that could not be done in a PG-13 movie.

Oh, and rent those movies I told you about, so you can truly see what dark and gritty films looks like....not just scenes shot at night.

Yeah. Like I said, I've seen half of those movies you've mentioned.
 
Nepenthes said:
On one hand I want a truly terrifying Joker....on the other hand I still want kids to see this movie.

I think what you guys are aguing about above is psychological horror compared to visual gore and violence. Yeah certain comics are quite psychologically graphic. Superhero movies aren't usually too good at doing this, but Nolan probably has something special in mind. I don't know enough about ratings to question whether an 'R' is delivered to what is implied on screen or what is actually shown.

Then again I saw B89 when i was six and that has outright murders shown in it so whatever, I dunno. I mean we don't actually need to see rape, torture or real-life illegal drugs or anything do we?

Exactly. :up:

Besides, you never actually SEE rape or drugs or torture in the comics. NEVER.
 
*yawn* I grow weary of this thread. It's just a bunch of pointless agrueing. As everyone and their Grandma has said, there will never be an "R" rated Batman film. If you don't like it, don't go to the movie. Nuff' said.
 
Visionary said:
Kids watch R-rated movie every day on Cable and in theaters, it's nothing new for them. What kid do you know who hasn't seen The Matrix, The Passion Of The Christ or Terminator 2? The kids today are a different breed, from when you and I were young. Hell, they have threesomes, watch porn and don't have a curfew.

There would be nothing in an R-rated Batman film, that kids can't see on TV or Cable or the internet anytime they want. And they would all flock to see an R-rated Batman flick, faster than they would a PG-13 film--they'll just get someone older to take them. I see this all the time in the theaters...with sex and violence running rampid on screen.

SAW III was the biggest opening of its three films this weekend, you wanna know who helped that take place...KIDS?! I saw a bunch of them in theaters at every showing I went to.

there is nothing that requires an "R" rating in a batman movie.

nothing.

they could make it alot more violent and still get a "pg-13" (spiderman 1 and 2 and even hulk were much more violent than begins) but i dont think batman requires more violence. go read or watch sin city if you want explicit sex and violence.

killing joke, long halloween, and even dkr are easily pg or pg-13 material. the only possible exception would be the babs gordan boob shot in killing joke. sure you could really push some of the situations into "R" territory but you would have to push. the adult situations are touched on but not in an explicit manner. like keyser said please show us a panel (just one) that would push a batman movie clearly into "R" rated territory.

batman is just not an "R" rated character.
 
Visionary said:
Kids watch R-rated movie every day on Cable and in theaters, it's nothing new for them. What kid do you know who hasn't seen The Matrix, The Passion Of The Christ or Terminator 2? The kids today are a different breed, from when you and I were young. Hell, they have threesomes, watch porn and don't have a curfew.

There would be nothing in an R-rated Batman film, that kids can't see on TV or Cable or the internet anytime they want. And they would all flock to see an R-rated Batman flick, faster than they would a PG-13 film--they'll just get someone older to take them. I see this all the time in the theaters...with sex and violence running rampid on screen.

SAW III was the biggest opening of its three films this weekend, you wanna know who helped that take place...KIDS?! I saw a bunch of them in theaters at every showing I went to.

how many times did you see saw 3? that alone should disqualify you from having an opinion.

oh and my son is nine and has been nowhere near any of those films you have mentioned. i almost didnt let him see hulk because it was so violent.
 
'Batman Begins' is the greatest Batman movie ever made which means its the greatest movie ever made and it's PG-13! :woot:

There's no need for a R rated Batman.

Besides PG-13 is just an R rated movie 15 years ago anyway. :cwink:
 
Darknightnomis said:
'Batman Begins' is the greatest Batman movie ever made which means its the greatest movie ever made and it's PG-13! :woot:

There's no need for a R rated Batman.

Besides PG-13 is just an R rated movie 15 years ago anyway. :cwink:


lol i don't know about greatest movie ever made, best batman movie though, untill 08 yes
 
deathfromabove said:
like keyser said please show us a panel (just one) that would push a batman movie clearly into "R" rated territory.

I'm on this bandwagon. I want images to support this "R" rated agrument. Not words or rants, I want hard proof.

Put your money where your mouth is.
 
That's like the people that claimed they wanted an R rated Spider-Man pic a while ago in the Spidey forums. Who would want that? Sans a criminally insane individual? As serious and dark as Spidey gets, he's always been an all ages character.
 
I love Spidey, he's my boy, but nobody's cooler than Batman.

:D
 
explode7 said:
^And cooler than batman too.

Someone seems to have forgotten who's the man of this house.
inside-batman-review.jpg


Now get in the kitchen, b****, and make him some pie.
 
Rynan said:
I'm on this bandwagon. I want images to support this "R" rated agrument. Not words or rants, I want hard proof.

Put your money where your mouth is.

i remember readin a comic where bat man used the "c" word a lot. i forget wh at issue it was tho...
 
num1batfan said:
i remember readin a comic where bat man used the "c" word a lot. i forget wh at issue it was tho...

cornbread? :whatever:

:)
 
Rynan said:
Someone seems to have forgotten who's the man of this house.
inside-batman-review.jpg


Now get in the kitchen, b****, and make him some pie.

LOL!!!!! :D
 

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