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World Mutant power levels

Majik1387 said:
He's a healer who has gold skin.

He was confirmed an Omega by Beast.
While rushing Josh, who was attacked accidentally by Rhane after healing her from her absence of mutant powers, Beast says "Proffessor Xavier's never told anyone this because he didn't want things to be more difficult for the boy...but Josh is an Omega-class mutant, capable of manipulating the body's functions at a genetic level."

Wow, that's actually quite an interesting power. Not one I'd like to have, but still interesting. :p
 
He had normal skin before but after the attack, Surge, under Beast supervision, gave him a shock to wake him from his coma-like state. He woke up but was still out of it, and Laurie placed his hand on his chest so he could heal himself and his skin became gold.
 
Majik1387 said:
He had normal skin before but after the attack, Surge, under Beast supervision, gave him a shock to wake him from his coma-like state. He woke up but was still out of it, and Laurie placed his hand on his chest so he could heal himself and his skin became gold.

Wow... very interesting. :up:
 
Yeah, I was a little late to start getting the comics but that scene kind of got me more interested in it. Beast thinks the goldness is a secondary muatation.
 
Is Endsong considered regular continuity? Because if it was, then that would solve the alpha/omega Storm debate.
 
Batman the 6th said:
I'm not positive, but I think these are the level of power for some of the mutants:
Jean is Level 5
Prof. X is Level 4
Magneto is Level 4
Pyro is level 4
Iceman is level 4
Juggernaut is level 4
Rogue level 4
Storm is level 4
Colossus is level 3
I think I have it right
Others I don't know or are not sure about.

Scott, Beast, Nightcrawler, Multiple Man, Kitty,
Mystique, Toad, Sabretooth, Lady Deathstrike, Angel, Callisto, Shockwave, Gambit,Jubilee,Boom Boom,Avalanche,Quicksilver,
Scarlet Witch,Wolfsbane, Blob, Logan, and Havok.
I can't think of any other right now
Can anyone confirm this?

Hello Batman, not sure if this is what you were looking for, but from the "X-Men:Marvel Encyclopedia v2" publication date:1st publication 2003 isbn 0-7851-1199-9, the following character stats are available: THIS IS LONG! PLEASE BE KIND< REWIND ^.^

Scott - intell-3, str-2, speed-2, durability-2, energy proj.-5, fight skills-4
beast-int-5, str-5, spd-2, dur-4,ep-1, fs-3
nightcrawler-int-3, str-2, spd-3, dur-2, ep-1, fs-3
multipleman-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-2, fs-3
kitty-int-4, str-2, spd-2, dur-3, ep-1, fs-5
mystique-int-3, str-2, spd-2, dur-4, ep-1, fs-4
toad-int-2, str-4, spd-3, dur-4, ep-1, fs-5
sabretooth-int-2, str-4, spd-2, dur-4, ep-1, fs-6
lady deathstrike-int-3, str-4, spd-3, dur-3, ep-1, fs-6
angel [girl]-int-2, str-2, spd-3, dur-2, ep-3, fs-2
angel [archangel, warren] int-2, str-3, spd-4, dur-4, ep-1, fs-3
callisto-int-4, str-3, spd-2, dur-3, ep-1, fs4
gambit-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-2, fs-3
jubilee-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-4, fs-2
boomboom-see meltdown [weapon x project, she changed her name when running with cable in the underground]-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-4, fs3
avalanche-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-4, fs-3
quicksilver-int-2, str-2, spd-5, dur-3, ep-1, fs-3
scarlet witch [human, magick]-int-3, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-5, fs-3
wolfsbane-int-2, str-3, spd-3, dur-3, ep-1, fs-3
blob-int-2, str-5, spd-1, dur-6, ep-1, fs-2
logan [pain in the MU[see all over the place:) ]]int-2, str-4, spd-2, dur-4, ep-1, fs-7
havok-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-3, ep-5, fs-2

Power Ratings:

strength:ability to lift weight
1-weak-cannt even move self
2-normal-can move self
3-peak human-able to lift twice own weight
4-superhuman- lift 800lbs-25tons
5-superhuman- lift 25-75 tons
6-superhuman- lift 75-100 tons
7-incalculable- lift in excess of 100 tons

intelligence:ability to think and process information
1-slow\impaired
2-normal
3-learned
4-gifted
5-genius
6-super genius
7-omniscient [godlike]

energy projection: ability to discharge energy
1-none
2-ability to discharge on contact [gambit charging his cards, ect.]
3-short range, short duration, single energy type [havok, boomboom, ect]
4-medium range, medium duration, single energy type [see havok ect.]
5-long range, long duration, single energy type [pheonix, boomboom, ect.]
6-able to discharge multiple forms of energy [boomboom, jubilee, ect.]
7-virtually unlimited command of all forms of energy [the watcher, ect.]

Speed: ability to move over land by running or flight
1-below normal
2- normal
3-superhuman - peak range 700mph
4-speed of sound [ flash, quicksilver]
5-supersonic - mach 2 through orbital velocity [quicksilver, flash]
6-speed of light: 186,000 mps[miles per second] [silver surfer]
7-warp speed! [sh'iarr battle cruiser]

Durability: ability to resist or recover from bodily injury
1- below normal
2-normal
3-enhanced [faster than normal, but not healing factor fast]
4-regenerative [healing factor]
5-bulletproof [quicksilver when running or superman standing still]
6-superhuman [superman]
7-vurtually inddestructable [apocolypse or superman]

Fighting Ability: proficiency in hand to hand combat [able to defend self]
1-poor [most of everyone :) ]
2-normal [the rest of us who can hit back :) ]
3-some training [street wise]
4-experienced fighter [street fighter, or purple and higher martial arts belt color]
5-master of a single form of combat [blackbelt]
6-master of several forms of combat [studied more than one form of fighting style]
7- master of all forms of combat [you spent your life becomming grasshopper]


could not find shockwave, this mutant may be in the newer version which I have yet to purchase. As with all things, other than hoping that this helps, please take peanut gallery comments with a grain of salt. ^.^
 
triplefive said:
Is Endsong considered regular continuity? Because if it was, then that would solve the alpha/omega Storm debate.
Yes it think it is continuity. I never thought of that! It's so true.
 
Since when did X-Men become the new Dragon Ball Z? Power level arguments? And I don't think End Song would solve much. If you are going to point out that Storm can't be Omega, because she couldn't stop Jean, then i'll just call bull**** right there. In End Song, Storm is battling a cosmic entity designed to end existence itself. Nothing should feasibly be able to defeat the Phoenix, unless the Phoenix falls victim to the weakness of the host entity (i.e. greed/lust or emotional break down etc etc). It isn't like Storm has never defeated Jean in the past. To my knowledge, Jean, without the Phoenix, is considered Omega. If that is the case, then I say that you need look no further than Uncanny X-Men #270, where Storm beats Jean fair and square in a danger room session. Storm is a very able fighter and a very powerful mutant. Even Uncanny X-Men 474, ends with a rouge group of mutant hunters with power scouters, noting that Storm has a considerably large mutant power source.
 
Chill.

It's not because she couldn't stop Jean. It's because the Shi-Ar were focused on stopping Kid Omega from nearing the scene because HE was an omega level mutant and therefore what they considered to be a possible host for the Phoenix. Storm was fighting them the whole time and they never made a single mention of her.

I don't have my comics handy, otherwise I'd quote it for you.
 
Yeah I dont know what that guy is *****ing about. What you said Triplefive is completely valid
 
triplefive said:
Chill.

It's not because she couldn't stop Jean. It's because the Shi-Ar were focused on stopping Kid Omega from nearing the scene because HE was an omega level mutant and therefore what they considered to be a possible host for the Phoenix. Storm was fighting them the whole time and they never made a single mention of her.

I don't have my comics handy, otherwise I'd quote it for you.
I thought they were only looking for omega psychics. I could have sworn they said that the phoenix could only take a psychic host who was omega. They wern't looking for Iceman either, yet we know he is omega.
 
My mistake, though it looks like this perosns interjection proved to be more valid than either sides statements.
 
Storm had the Phoenix in a What If story. I know thats not in continuity but it all what ifs are possible aren't they? They're all alternate timelines viewed by the Watcher or someone like that
 
ningi said:
Hello Batman, not sure if this is what you were looking for, but from the "X-Men:Marvel Encyclopedia v2" publication date:1st publication 2003 isbn 0-7851-1199-9, the following character stats are available: THIS IS LONG! PLEASE BE KIND< REWIND ^.^

Scott - intell-3, str-2, speed-2, durability-2, energy proj.-5, fight skills-4
beast-int-5, str-5, spd-2, dur-4,ep-1, fs-3
nightcrawler-int-3, str-2, spd-3, dur-2, ep-1, fs-3
multipleman-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-2, fs-3
kitty-int-4, str-2, spd-2, dur-3, ep-1, fs-5
mystique-int-3, str-2, spd-2, dur-4, ep-1, fs-4
toad-int-2, str-4, spd-3, dur-4, ep-1, fs-5
sabretooth-int-2, str-4, spd-2, dur-4, ep-1, fs-6
lady deathstrike-int-3, str-4, spd-3, dur-3, ep-1, fs-6
angel [girl]-int-2, str-2, spd-3, dur-2, ep-3, fs-2
angel [archangel, warren] int-2, str-3, spd-4, dur-4, ep-1, fs-3
callisto-int-4, str-3, spd-2, dur-3, ep-1, fs4
gambit-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-2, fs-3
jubilee-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-4, fs-2
boomboom-see meltdown [weapon x project, she changed her name when running with cable in the underground]-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-4, fs3
avalanche-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-4, fs-3
quicksilver-int-2, str-2, spd-5, dur-3, ep-1, fs-3
scarlet witch [human, magick]-int-3, str-2, spd-2, dur-2, ep-5, fs-3
wolfsbane-int-2, str-3, spd-3, dur-3, ep-1, fs-3
blob-int-2, str-5, spd-1, dur-6, ep-1, fs-2
logan [pain in the MU[see all over the place:) ]]int-2, str-4, spd-2, dur-4, ep-1, fs-7
havok-int-2, str-2, spd-2, dur-3, ep-5, fs-2

Power Ratings:

strength:ability to lift weight
1-weak-cannt even move self
2-normal-can move self
3-peak human-able to lift twice own weight
4-superhuman- lift 800lbs-25tons
5-superhuman- lift 25-75 tons
6-superhuman- lift 75-100 tons
7-incalculable- lift in excess of 100 tons

intelligence:ability to think and process information
1-slow\impaired
2-normal
3-learned
4-gifted
5-genius
6-super genius
7-omniscient [godlike]

energy projection: ability to discharge energy
1-none
2-ability to discharge on contact [gambit charging his cards, ect.]
3-short range, short duration, single energy type [havok, boomboom, ect]
4-medium range, medium duration, single energy type [see havok ect.]
5-long range, long duration, single energy type [pheonix, boomboom, ect.]
6-able to discharge multiple forms of energy [boomboom, jubilee, ect.]
7-virtually unlimited command of all forms of energy [the watcher, ect.]

Speed: ability to move over land by running or flight
1-below normal
2- normal
3-superhuman - peak range 700mph
4-speed of sound [ flash, quicksilver]
5-supersonic - mach 2 through orbital velocity [quicksilver, flash]
6-speed of light: 186,000 mps[miles per second] [silver surfer]
7-warp speed! [sh'iarr battle cruiser]

Durability: ability to resist or recover from bodily injury
1- below normal
2-normal
3-enhanced [faster than normal, but not healing factor fast]
4-regenerative [healing factor]
5-bulletproof [quicksilver when running or superman standing still]
6-superhuman [superman]
7-vurtually inddestructable [apocolypse or superman]

Fighting Ability: proficiency in hand to hand combat [able to defend self]
1-poor [most of everyone :) ]
2-normal [the rest of us who can hit back :) ]
3-some training [street wise]
4-experienced fighter [street fighter, or purple and higher martial arts belt color]
5-master of a single form of combat [blackbelt]
6-master of several forms of combat [studied more than one form of fighting style]
7- master of all forms of combat [you spent your life becomming grasshopper]


could not find shockwave, this mutant may be in the newer version which I have yet to purchase. As with all things, other than hoping that this helps, please take peanut gallery comments with a grain of salt. ^.^

I wouldn't rank wolverine and sabertooth as being able to lift tons! They probably cant even lift 2 or even 1 ton. They arent that strong. Wolverine is just heavy, but sabertooth might be able to lift 1 ton if he tries. Unless you have superstrength like rogue or hulk, they probably cant lift much at all...plus one time beast was holding down a metal door that was closing from the top, wolverine tried to help him but the two of them couldn't keep it open, until rogue comes along and says, "i got it beast!", and just pulls that door back up like it was nothing, while beast and wolverine run through..it was on the shi'aar ship too.
 
aidol said:
I wouldn't rank wolverine and sabertooth as being able to lift tons! They probably cant even lift 2 or even 1 ton. They arent that strong. Wolverine is just heavy, but sabertooth might be able to lift 1 ton if he tries. Unless you have superstrength like rogue or hulk, they probably cant lift much at all...plus one time beast was holding down a metal door that was closing from the top, wolverine tried to help him but the two of them couldn't keep it open, until rogue comes along and says, "i got it beast!", and just pulls that door back up like it was nothing, while beast and wolverine run through..it was on the shi'aar ship too.


I'm not the one who did the rankings, Marvel did, but in Sabretooth:Mary Shelley Overdrive, Sabretooth is seen ripping a 4 ton airconditioning unit out of its moorings on a rooftop and using it to body slam a couple of undead mercs. Plus, most of the writers haven't bothered trying to depict the actual upgrades in strength both Sabretooth and Wolverine underwent as part of both WeaponX projects, but it was hinted that both mutants were already superhumanly strong before the supersoldier serum experiments based on thier healing factors were used.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in "Deadly Genesis", Magneto and Prof. X are now confirmed Omegas.

I thought they were only looking for omega psychics. I could have sworn they said that the phoenix could only take a psychic host who was omega. They wern't looking for Iceman either, yet we know he is omega.

Yup that's right. The Phoenix Force was only looking for omega level psychics. If it weren't, Shi-Ar would've targeted Iceman too.
 
aidol said:
acutally no.....not to destroy planets....because that would make you a cosmic being then.....to be omega means to be able to control molecules and affect them.

Stop it. Omega means to have unlimited potential. The person may not be able to control their power or know fully what their power does but if they are an Omega they will have unlimited potential with their powers. It doesn't mean they are immune to ninja chops, or can't get their ass beat.

Elixir, Jean, Iceman, The Stepford Cuckoos, Kid Omega, Mister M, Vulcan, Franklin Richards are Omega level mutants. I too would agree with Magneto and possibly Professor. Though it has been stated Phoenix is a class above Omega and Jean is Phoenix and Kid Omega has been sought out by Phoenix before. Because he is my favorite character I would like to throw in Synch was considered to be Omnipotent if he mastered his power.
 
tirminyl said:
Stop it. Omega means to have unlimited potential. The person may not be able to control their power or know fully what their power does but if they are an Omega they will have unlimited potential with their powers. It doesn't mean they are immune to ninja chops, or can't get their ass beat.

Elixir, Jean, Iceman, The Stepford Cuckoos, Kid Omega, Mister M, Vulcan, Franklin Richards are Omega level mutants. I too would agree with Magneto and possibly Professor. Though it has been stated Phoenix is a class above Omega and Jean is Phoenix and Kid Omega has been sought out by Phoenix before. Because he is my favorite character I would like to throw in Synch was considered to be Omnipotent if he mastered his power.

no you stop it! Being omega doesn't mean they have unlimited potential....that would make them a cosmic being like silver surfer...wikipedia states that an omega being is able to control matter on the sub-molecular scale.
 
aidol said:
no you stop it! Being omega doesn't mean they have unlimited potential....that would make them a cosmic being like silver surfer...wikipedia states that an omega being is able to control matter on the sub-molecular scale.

And Wikipedia is a user edited encyclopedia. You don't need to control matter to be an Omega. It may seem that way because a majority are TK or reality warpers. There are strictly telepaths that are Omega.
 
tirminyl said:
And Wikipedia is a user edited encyclopedia. You don't need to control matter to be an Omega. It may seem that way because a majority are TK or reality warpers. There are strictly telepaths that are Omega.

they must be able to affect matter...not only tk...plus most telepaths cant do anything beyond the mind unless they are jean or prof. x level. Iceman can affect matter by forcing the atoms to freeze, so it just doesn't matter about how you affect it!
 
It depends on how we define 'matter'...

Matter is something that occupies space and can be perceived by one or more senses; a physical body, a physical substance, or the universe as a whole.

If being Omega means you can effect matter, I don't see why Storm can't be one. 'Matter' itself is way too debatable, I think.
 
not just matter, but molecules. Storm can't affect matter..you don't see her turning wood into gold...the only reason she makes water turn to ice is because she calls upon cold winds to freeze it. Storm has every single weather effect that mother nature can do naturally, its just that she uses them at her disposal.
 

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