Neo Noir approaches for the rogues gallery

[BMW 224]

Bane face shouldn't wear a mask.

Instead to make it more realistic and fit this Joker look his face should be a black and white skull.

 

[Frodo]

I'm not suggesting that you can't use him per se. Of course, as a filmmaker you can reimagine/retool virtually any character to your liking so long as it's done in a way that makes sense within the overarching narrative. It's just that, for me, Bane represents the ultimate challenge to a more seasoned Batman in an almost intrinsic way. It's something that I'll always associate with that character.

Having said that, I'm more open to a variety of other changes as relates to Bane. For instance, I couldn't care less if he comes from the fictional Santa Prisca or not. I also needn't see him portrayed as some towering behemoth, as is generally the case in the comics, cartoons, etc. But I always want him to remain the villain who tests a fully-formed Batman to his absolute limits.

I can understand your preference for Bane to go up against a fully formed Batman.

If they did Bane again, I would actually prefer they don't just go the route of waiting for Batman to have gone against all his rouges and to be an older guy .

I've seen that for decades.

I'd want to see something different if they did Bane again.
But that's even if the character is on the table.

Though, to be fair ,the definition of a fully formed Batman for this version may be different from what we may assume it is.

I doubt he's going to be making Pattinson Batman films for decades, and we don't know the timespan of this version of the character will be in terms of a trilogy.

Reeves hasn't really layed out publicly at least, his specific plans for films going forward , so it's always possible he'll become "fully formed" in film 2 or 3 ,and fully formed to Reeves, may not mean a 40 something year old Bruce with a Batfamily.

It may mean his version of a fully formed Batman is fully formed by his early 30s .

It depends on what Reeves vision for the trilogy is, and to be fair, that's always subject to change.

 

[WatchProtect]

If they did Bane again you'd pretty much have to avoid the Knightfall trend, his story would almost have to be original. I've said it before though with only 3 films (probably) I'd rather they not fill a villain spot with Bane again, as much as I really do like his character.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I can understand your preference for Bane to go up against a fully formed Batman.

If they did Bane again, I would actually prefer they don't just go the route of waiting for Batman to have gone against all his rouges and to be an older guy .

I've seen that for decades.

I'd want to see something different if they did Bane again.
But that's even if the character is on the table.

Though, to be fair ,the definition of a fully formed Batman for this version may be different from what we may assume it is.

I doubt he's going to be making Pattinson Batman films for decades, and we don't know the timespan of this version of the character will be in terms of a trilogy.

Reeves hasn't really layed out publicly at least, his specific plans for films going forward , so it's always possible he'll become "fully formed" in film 2 or 3 ,and fully formed to Reeves, may not mean a 40 something year old Bruce with a Batfamily.

It may mean his version of a fully formed Batman is fully formed by his early 30s .

It depends on what Reeves vision for the trilogy is, and to be fair, that's always subject to change.

I understand where you're coming from and even share some of your sentiment. Just to be clear, though, when I say 'prefer', I mean it in the softest way possible, as I was never a huge Bane fan to begin with. So, it's not that I have any real desire to see him portrayed with those traditional character motivations, it's just that I've come to associate them with him, as informed by early comics, cartoons, and the aforementioned Nolan trilogy. Where we diverge is that you seem a bit more open to revisiting the character again so long as it isn't more of the same; I, on the other hand, feel that it's better that he remain untouched for at least another 10 years or so. By then, enough time would've passed for the "ultimate nemesis" portrayal to feel new to audiences again.

Now, if Reeves does indeed opt to use Bane in the very near future, I share your view that he take a fresh or unconventional approach to him. But at the same time, I'm not chomping at the bit to see this happen. That's not because I'm opposed to the idea of reimagining him this way, mind you, it's mostly because there isn't anything in the source material that's ever endeared me to his story in the first place. And if it ever starts to feel like you're putting the cart before the horse, then I figure: why bother? That's not to say that there isn't any good Bane-related material for Reeves to draw from. I'm sure there are a number of stories where he's written with more depth and dimension, I just haven't read that many of them. But again, should Reeves consider him as a potential antagonist for the new Batman, he'll no doubt have to do a deep dive in search of the very best representations of the character. Anything in particular that you'd care to recommend?

 

[Frodo]

I understand where you're coming from and even share some of your sentiment. Just to be clear, though, when I say 'prefer', I mean it in the softest way possible, as I was never a huge Bane fan to begin with. So, it's not that I have any real desire to see him portrayed with those traditional character motivations, it's just that I've come to associate them with him, as informed by early comics, cartoons, and the aforementioned Nolan trilogy. Where we diverge is that you seem a bit more open to revisiting the character again so long as it isn't more of the same; I, on the other hand, feel that it's better that he remain untouched for at least another 10 years or so. By then, enough time would've passed for the "ultimate nemesis" portrayal to feel new to audiences again.

Now, if Reeves does indeed opt to use Bane in the very near future, I share your view that he take a fresh or unconventional approach to him. But at the same time, I'm not chomping at the bit to see this happen. That's not because I'm opposed to the idea of reimagining him this way, mind you, it's mostly because there isn't anything in the source material that's ever endeared me to his story in the first place. And if it ever starts to feel like you're putting the cart before the horse, then I figure: why bother? That's not to say that there isn't any good Bane-related material for Reeves to draw from. I'm sure there are a number of stories where he's written with more depth and dimension, I just haven't read that many of them. But again, should Reeves consider him as a potential antagonist for the new Batman, he'll no doubt have to do a deep dive in search of the very best representations of the character. Anything in particular that you'd care to recommend?

To be clear, I'm open to several characters returning not just Bane.
I'd say the same for Two Face , Ras, Talia, Scarecrow etc.

At the same time, you're correct, I don't want more of the same, but that's how I feel with the rest of Batman's rogues and characters , so Bane isn't unique in that respect.

My point is that these characters don't have to appear at a certain point in time or be portrayed in one way, since ,that presumes Reeves is following the comics and not telling the story his own way, but you appreciate that point.

I really don't have a strong belief of what should happen ,in what order in Reeves version of the early years of his Batman.
I know what's happened in other versions , but those are other versions
So that's why I'd be open to seeing Bane in a 3rd or 4th film if that's what Reeves wanted.

While i'd prefer the character not show up in the second film, at the end of the day, it's Reeves's ball game, and if he wants to tell a story about an early Batman meeting his Physical equal in Reeves-verse version of Bane, i'll keep an open mind.

 

[TheVileOne]

You know who has never made a live-action big screen appearance before? The Court of Owls.