New Avengers lineup

[CaptainWagner]

I doubt Dr. Strange would be left out. He already interacted with Thor, Hulk, Spider-Man and Iron Man for starters and he's headlining his own films which already makes his spot for the Avengers a no brainer.

From a business standpoint, yes, but I don't think it makes sense for his character to join the team. He should only show up in extreme situations like Thanos coming for the Time Gem. And at this point, I think Marvel is at a point that they can stay true to their characters instead of just shoving everyone together on a team.

 

[psylockolussus]

To me, he is kinda an Avenger just showing up in Infinity War. But I was mostly pointing out that he would appear in the Avengers movies, maybe not as "Avenger" but a big ally.

 

[Tg11]

To me, he is kinda an Avenger just showing up in Infinity War. But I was mostly pointing out that he would appear in the Avengers movies, maybe not as "Avenger" but a big ally.

And that is what Strange should be in future Avengers films

 

[SumT]

I preffer She-hulk and Spiderwoman over Valkirie, Maria Hill or any other supporting character from the solo movies.

 

[Tg11]

She Hulk well Jennifer she could join the team to otherwise fill the void left by her cousin Bruce by saying that she knows them all well she knows all The Avengers despite never meeting any of them but she would have an instant connection to them through Bruce Banner

 

[CaptainWagner]

I preffer She-hulk and Spiderwoman over Valkirie, Maria Hill or any other supporting character from the solo movies.

They really haven't given any signs of being interested in either of those characters. Valkyrie is a fan favorite played by a star. I'd be shocked if she doesn't join the team.

 

[Flash525]

For Avengers 5, I'm predicting the following...

Actual Avengers:

• Captain Marvel (to replace Steve Rogers as the team lead)
• Black Panther (to replace Stark as the tech suit with the gadgets and gizmos)
• Spider-Man (to also replace Stark with the tech suit with his gadgets and gizmos)
  
• Ant-Man
• Wasp
  
• Shang Chi (to replace both Natasha and Clint)

I don't think the likes of Doctor Strange will ever be an actual Avenger as far as the MCU is concerned. He's not the kind of character that'll conform to signing accords and the like. He'll step in if the Earth is under grand mystical threat, but not under other circumstances. I guess a lot of it depends on who the next villain is, and whether they're earthbound, or cosmic. I think the next Avengers film will be a bit more grounded though, with Avengers 6 being the next larger ensemble.

I don't see any of the original six being in the next ensemble film. Neither do I see Valkyrie stepping in on behalf of Thor. If there's a Thor 4, she'll be in that, hopefully with Sif too, but that's somewhat irrelevant here. I don't think Thor will be in Avengers 5 either, but he may return for Avengers 6, whenever that'll be.

Wanda, Vision, Rhodes, Bucky and Sam will soon have their Disney series deals, and I can't help but think they'll all be out for Avengers 5. Some (most likely Wanda & Vision) may return for Avengers 6 again though. I can't realistically see where else they can go with Hulk, especially if Carol is the new powerhouse.

I likewise am not seeing the Guardians make another appearance in an Avengers film. It's been mentioned already, but I think if there's another crossover (of sorts) it'll be with the F4, but that again isn't going to be until Avengers 6 at the earliest. She-Hulk, in my opinion, is simply failed optimism.

 

[2kt09]

For Avengers 5, I'm predicting the following...

Actual Avengers:

• Captain Marvel (to replace Steve Rogers as the team lead)
• Black Panther (to replace Stark as the tech suit with the gadgets and gizmos)
• Spider-Man (to also replace Stark with the tech suit with his gadgets and gizmos)
  
• Ant-Man
• Wasp
  
• Shang Chi (to replace both Natasha and Clint)

I don't think the likes of Doctor Strange will ever be an actual Avenger as far as the MCU is concerned. He's not the kind of character that'll conform to signing accords and the like. He'll step in if the Earth is under grand mystical threat, but not under other circumstances.

Because Strange, at the very least has his hq in NY, he comes across as more available than Captain Stark (I hear she's more like IM than T'Challa). BP would be the team leader whilst someone else actively oversees Wakanda. Scar-Jo & Renner seem like they're here for the longest haul. The question to ask is if they'll establish anything like West Coast, movie vers of Defenders or are the miniseries built around the side characters enough.

 

[writer0327]

With Black Widow getting her own solo movie, I think she will certainly be a part of the team moving forward. Falcon and Winter Soldier are getting their own MCU TV series, so I don't think they'll be back. I have a feeling the only holdovers from the original team will be Widow and maybe Hawkeye. I also have a feeling Shuri will play a major role in the next lineup as well. They have her as the smartest person in the MCU right now on par with Stark and they will need her brains not just to create weapons.

They will add more to the mix as time goes on, but as far as the next Avengers lineup in the next film, this is how I see it.

Spidey
Strange
BP
CM
Widow
Ant-Man
Wasp
Hawkeye
Shuri

 

[Flash525]

Because Strange, at the very least has his hq in NY, he comes across as more available than Captain Stark (I hear she's more like IM than T'Challa). BP would be the team leader whilst someone else actively oversees Wakanda. Scar-Jo & Renner seem like they're here for the longest haul. The question to ask is if they'll establish anything like West Coast, movie vers of Defenders or are the miniseries built around the side characters enough.

Strange is local, sure, and I'm sure they'll rebuild the sanctums before Avengers 5 comes along, but there were no wizards when Loki invaded, nor were they any when Ultron attempted to destroy the world. I'm sure they wouldn't have let the world go to ruin, but I just can't see them getting involved unless there's an outworld threat.

Wasn't it Wong that said (in the Strange film) that the Avengers defend against the materialistic threats, whilst the wizards protect against the mystical? If there's no mystical threat, would they get involved? Why haven't they previously? I can further see both Scar-Jo and Renner retiring from the scene too; Scar-Jo (may) be killed off, and Renner will likely retire back to his family again; he'll have lost them once, thus becoming Ronin, I wouldn't think he'd want to be away from them again, knowing that pain - assuming he'll ever remember it.

The West Coast idea is ... an idea, but when you've got portals and supersonic flight, and when you've got SHIELD everywhere, I don't think the MCU would really benefit from having different Avengers at different places around the world. Rogers and co were working abroad at the beginning of AoU already.

 

[Iceman]

I'll be glad if any of the originals stay. Any of Hulk, Thor, Widow and Hawkeye.

 

[2kt09]

Strange is local, sure, and I'm sure they'll rebuild the sanctums before Avengers 5 comes along, but there were no wizards when Loki invaded, nor were they any when Ultron attempted to destroy the world. I'm sure they wouldn't have let the world go to ruin, but I just can't see them getting involved unless there's an outworld threat.

Wasn't it Wong that said (in the Strange film) that the Avengers defend against the materialistic threats, whilst the wizards protect against the mystical? If there's no mystical threat, would they get involved? Why haven't they previously? I can further see both Scar-Jo and Renner retiring from the scene too; Scar-Jo (may) be killed off, and Renner will likely retire back to his family again; he'll have lost them once, thus becoming Ronin, I wouldn't think he'd want to be away from them again, knowing that pain - assuming he'll ever remember it.

The West Coast idea is ... an idea, but when you've got portals and supersonic flight, and when you've got SHIELD everywhere, I don't think the MCU would really benefit from having different Avengers at different places around the world. Rogers and co were working abroad at the beginning of AoU already.

There were no other heroes when Loki invaded, nor when Ultron attempted to destroy the world.
Phase 4 is supposedly more cosmic, more outworld.
As a character, Strange was simply better utilized in other people's movies.
The MCU trinity split off into teams.

 

[Flash525]

There were no other heroes when Loki invaded, nor when Ultron attempted to destroy the world. Phase 4 is supposedly more cosmic, more outworld.

Yes there were. Carol had already become at this point, so whilst she wasn't on Earth, Fury could have called her in. The Agents of Shield show established that there were pockets of Inhumans living in isolated areas around the world, and even if you discount those two examples, Wong, the Ancient one, and all the other sorcerers did exist during the events of Avengers 1 & 2, they just didn't get involved.

 

[2kt09]

Yes there were. Carol had already become at this point, so whilst she wasn't on Earth, Fury could have called her in. The Agents of Shield show established that there were pockets of Inhumans living in isolated areas around the world, and even if you discount those two examples, Wong, the Ancient one, and all the other sorcerers did exist during the events of Avengers 1 & 2, they just didn't get involved.

I mean that precisely as in they weren't in those movies or "get involved". Not the bug heroes. Not the steet heroes. Not the same 5 people that make up SHIELD.

 

[Tg11]

Captain Marvel (co-leader; replaces Cap)
Black Panther (co-leader; replaces Tony)
Widow
Hawkeye
Spider Man
Ant Man
Wasp
She Hulk
Shang Chi

 

[SumT]

They really haven't given any signs of being interested in either of those characters. Valkyrie is a fan favorite played by a star. I'd be shocked if she doesn't join the team.

Spiderwoman and Shehulk can also be played by stars and become fan favorites.

and if we're real honest, Tessa isnt exactly "a star". She's known? I guess so, in USA. but she's not Angelina Jolie or Charlize Theron, that everyone on earth know.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Spiderwoman and Shehulk can also be played by stars and become fan favorites.

and if we're real honest, Tessa isnt exactly "a star". She's known? I guess so, in USA. but she's not Angelina Jolie or Charlize Theron, that everyone on earth know.

She's landed leading roles in three major franchises. I can't really speak towards how well she's known internationally, but is Charlize Theron really that well known? And even with Jolie, she's well-known, but its been ages since she had a really good role.

And sure, they could make any hero a star, but I just don't see them creating new ones when they already have popular ones. And when it comes to bringing in new heroes, I just don't think those two are high priorities. They'll kind of inevitably be seen as derivative.

 

[psylockolussus]

She isn't that well known. Thor, Avengers and the MIB are established franchises. Her name isn't really a big selling point or a big draw to the gp especially in international markets.

We obviously haven't seen Spider-Woman and She Hulk bcos of Sony/Universal but the audience would view them as the female counterpart of those two, and they aren't close (that we know of) to retiring Peter and Bruce. Maybe one day.

I don't really see Valkyrie joining the Avengers unless she moves to Earth and even if she does, she'd be like Falcon and War Machine, a secondary Avenger, and I think the upcoming films don't need more than two of that and I would just give that spot to Black Knight and Swordsman instead of Valkyrie.

 

[Shuri]

They really haven't given any signs of being interested in either of those characters. Valkyrie is a fan favorite played by a star. I'd be shocked if she doesn't join the team.

Yea, Valkyrie is not going anywhere.

 

[Tg11]

Captain Marvel
Black Panther
Spider Man
Widow (since her own film is set to come out)
Hawkeye
War Machine
Shang Chi
Ant Man
Wasp
She Hulk

 

[TheVileOne]

What about Ms. Marvel and Ironheart?

 

[psylockolussus]

Not a fan of legacy characters especially the ones created in the 2000s/2010s. I'd rather see Swordsman/Black Knight/Hercules.

 

[Shoppy]

If there's going to be a new 6-man line-up at the end of Endgame like we saw at the end of Age Of Ultron i definitely expect Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Ant-Man and Wasp to be in there.

Spider-Man and Doctor Strange I'm not too sure about though there is definitely more precedent in the 21st century comics for them being part of an Avengers team than in the first 40 years of Marvel so I wouldn't rule it out.

All the other former Avengers seem to be accounted for with TV series, prequels etc
except the big four, from whom I expect Thor and Hulk to be around on and off and either Stark or Rogers to take over as Director of SHIELD with the other either deceased or believed so.

Mantis could be one option for another member to add to the roster as she has been a member in the comics, and I'd expect the eventual inclusion of at least one from Starfox, Black Knight and Wonder-Man though not so soon so even if Mantis was added that still leaves one more slot on the team, so I'm going for Strange over Spidey there.

Black Panther
Ant-Man
Doctor Strange
Captain Marvel
Wasp
Mantis

 

[Tg11]

I would go Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Black Widow, Ant Man, Wasp and Spider Man

 

[Yowza]

I think a Young Avengers will is 1 avenue that could be explored at 1 point. West Coast style.