Transformers New Bay Message 12/20/06

[CFlash]

I think that's exactly it. I mean, Michael Bay owns a whole movie company dedicated to the "Quick Cash-in." They're the ones who have been churning out a whole slew of classic horror remakes like Texas Chainsaw, Amityville Horror, and THE HITCHER (a movie that does NOT in any way whatsoever need to be remade) and now even the original Friday the 13th is in production (I mean, WTF!)

None of those remakes are particularly good (tho whatchable) and none are "big" box office successes.... but they make a profit. And, that's what it's all about. F* the art.

Uh-huh. Bay and Ratner are the types of directors studios love the most. There's no guess work, minimum risk, they know what they're going to get and they can pretty much put the money in the bank without looking at the receipts.

Jackson and others are the ones studios take risks on because the gains will outstrip the risks.....Spielberg used to be in that category during his glory days.

Is it me or has he fallen off somewhat after he went into business with SKG?

I wouldn't say so. Saving Private Ryan is SKG isn't it? And, Munich is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. War of the Worlds, while not perfect, was pretty good and raked in $600 million. I also liked Minority Report. Oh, and A.I. is one of my favorite sci-fi movies of all time. So, no... I wouldn't say Spielberg has fallen off.

 

[Visionary]

Michael Bay talking about REGURGITATION, my God, hell has frozen over. The guy's entire career is a regurgitation.

 

[nosebleed.]

I wouldn't say so. Saving Private Ryan is SKG isn't it? And, Munich is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. War of the Worlds, while not perfect, was pretty good and raked in $600 million. I also liked Minority Report. Oh, and A.I. is one of my favorite sci-fi movies of all time. So, no... I wouldn't say Spielberg has fallen off.

The marketing for AI was amazing. I've never seen such a flood of fake (but working) website, fake (but working) phone numbers and the like for a movie. Hell, I called a phone number on a website one day, left my cell phone and received weird, scary voicemails from some guy stating they know who I am and that I know too much. Didn't mean to banter but when you mentioned AI that's the first thing I thought of. Oh...and Jude Law is so un-hetero.

And I'm with CFlash...Spielberg fall off? Nevah!

 

[deathshead2]

I wouldn't say so. Saving Private Ryan is SKG isn't it? And, Munich is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. War of the Worlds, while not perfect, was pretty good and raked in $600 million. I also liked Minority Report. Oh, and A.I. is one of my favorite sci-fi movies of all time. So, no... I wouldn't say Spielberg has fallen off.

I think spielberg has falled off I haven't liked any of his movies sense JP.

 

[Visionary]

I think spielberg has falled off I haven't liked any of his movies sense JP.

Are you serious, Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List are f---ing brilliant? Steven Spielberg and James Cameron are who Michael Bay wants to be, and fails miserably at it. He lacks the intelligence, integrity and talent to ever be like them. Probably because his motto is..."How much sh:t can I blow up in 60 seconds."

For one thing, Cameron and Spielberg wouldn't go bragging like a punk ass school child, about how great their movie(s) is on the web--while damning another film, they think too highly of the audience and their craft. Not to mention, they know that they're great at filmmaking without even saying a word.

Can't say that about Michael Bay, now can we, what a wet ***** this guy is?

 

[deathshead2]

Yeah im serious I don't like Saving Private Ryan and I forgot about Schindlers list. So everything after that movie. Not that big a fan of Cameron either. Still hate Bays movies though.

 

[nosebleed.]

Yeah im serious I don't like Saving Private Ryan and I forgot about Schindlers list. So everything after that movie. Not that big a fan of Cameron either. Still hate Bays movies though.

What DO you like?

 

[deathshead2]

I can't list them all.

 

[nosebleed.]

Any directors in particular?

 

[YÅ«gi's BM]

When I go to see this movie all I expect is the typical kick-booty film, lots of fun and adventure and action. A very good film. After all, after seeing X3 four times it grew on me, after seeing Superman Returns twice, it grew on me. I'll most likely watch this a few times and really like it.

 

[nosebleed.]

When I go to see this movie all I expect is the typical kick-booty film, lots of fun and adventure and action. A very good film. After all, after seeing X3 four times it grew on me, after seeing Superman Returns twice, it grew on me. I'll most likely watch this a few times and really like it.

you must like fungi.

 

[YÅ«gi's BM]

you must like fungi.

I'm just trying to be mature about this.

 

[Anti-Moderator]

I'm just trying to be mature about this.

Well you've come to the wrong place.

 

[nosebleed.]

No...he's got a valid point. My hands type faster than my "impolite remark indicator" can catch it. Please don't let our monkey-headed remarks stop you from posting here...maturity is a rare commodity in the Transformer forum.

That being said...my father is so excited about this movie...and he's 61.

 

[KenK]

For one thing, Cameron and Spielberg wouldn't go bragging like a punk ass school child, about how great their movie(s) is on the web--while damning another film, they think too highly of the audience and their craft. Not to mention, they know that they're great at filmmaking without even saying a word.

No, Cameron just puts his mug on the DVD cover to the "most commercially-successful" film of his career:

A film that won most of its Oscars for technical merit. Nothing for acting, nothing for screenwriting. People attack Pearl Harbor for its audacity to focus on a ficticious love story in what's supposed to be a recounting of historical events, how come Titanic doesn't get the same flack? And it's a ridiculously cliched love story at that: Girl from "old money" family has to marry some slimeball with "new money", 'cause the old money has all but run out. Just as she's in the process of getting to know new money guy, she meets "poor guy with heart of gold", and falls in love with him instead. There was nothing groundbreaking about that.

 

[xwolverine2]

No, Cameron just puts his mug on the DVD cover to the "most commercially-successful" film of his career:

A film that won most of its Oscars for technical merit. Nothing for acting, nothing for screenwriting. People attack Pearl Harbor for its audacity to focus on a ficticious love story in what's supposed to be a recounting of historical events, how come Titanic doesn't get the same flack? And it's a ridiculously cliched love story at that: Girl from "old money" family has to marry some slimeball with "new money", 'cause the old money has all but run out. Just as she's in the process of getting to know new money guy, she meets "poor guy with heart of gold", and falls in love with him instead. There was nothing groundbreaking about that.

im so with you on that one

 

[Visionary]

No, Cameron just puts his mug on the DVD cover to the "most commercially-successful" film of his career:

A film that won most of its Oscars for technical merit. Nothing for acting, nothing for screenwriting. People attack Pearl Harbor for its audacity to focus on a ficticious love story in what's supposed to be a recounting of historical events, how come Titanic doesn't get the same flack? And it's a ridiculously cliched love story at that: Girl from "old money" family has to marry some slimeball with "new money", 'cause the old money has all but run out. Just as she's in the process of getting to know new money guy, she meets "poor guy with heart of gold", and falls in love with him instead. There was nothing groundbreaking about that.

You're talking about after the fact that he won multiple Oscars for the film, sheesh. Cameron's face...or 'MUG' as you put it...was on every TV tube on the planet, way before the DVD was released. Cameron had the chance to brag his ass off orally in front of millions, at the many people who doubted him for even making a movie that cost over 200M, those who said it was a mega flop waiting to happen. Did he brag on OSCAR NIGHT, nope, interviewers wanted him to brag and bash the doubters into the ground, but he refused to do it? That's integrity. But he knew that they were all eating crow...lots of it too.

You might as well damn Walt Disney and Alfred Hitchcock who's face was all over every damn thing they did. Two visionaries with talent, who would never brag like school children and down their fellow rivals' work. That's my biggest beef with this guy, let alone he's a below average filmmaker. Unless you think action scenes alone make good/great films.

I hope the hell you're not even remotely trying to compare James Cameron to Michael Bay, that's a big no no with any Sci-Fi loving ****e like myself. That guy couldn't be compared to the dirt under his fingernails. And you don't have a leg to stand on, when looking at their body of work.

 

[KenK]

You're talking about after the fact that he won multiple Oscars for the film, sheesh.

I wasn't bringing up the Oscar wins as a positive in has favor. I was speaking to the fact for a film the Academy thought highly enough to award as the best film of that year overall, and for direction and all the effects work, no awards were given for the acting in the film, or the story.

Cameron's face...or 'MUG' as you put it...was on every TV tube on the planet, way before the DVD was released. Cameron had the chance to brag his ass off orally in front of millions, at the many people who doubted him for even making a movie that cost over 200M, those who said it was a mega flop waiting to happen. Did he brag on OSCAR NIGHT, nope, interviewers wanted him to brag and bash the doubters into the ground, but he refused to do it? That's integrity. But he knew that they were all eating crow...lots of it too.

Even worse now that it's years after the fact. He's been this humble man of integrity, and now he wants his face on the DVD cover? And it's a bad photo for the purposes of presentation, like, "Oh, here's a random shot of me directing the film". I'd have rather he actually posed for a picture to put on the cover.

I hope the hell you're not even remotely trying to compare James Cameron to Michael Bay, that's a big no no with any Sci-Fi loving ****e like myself. That guy couldn't be compared to the dirt under his fingernails. And you don't have a leg to stand on, when looking at their body of work.

No, I wasn't comparing the two.

 

[Visionary]

I wasn't bringing up the Oscar wins as a positive in has favor. I was speaking to the fact for a film the Academy thought highly enough to award as the best film of that year overall, and for direction and all the effects work, no awards were given for the acting in the film, or the story.

...And?

Are you saying that because of this, that it takes away from what he did win, seriously now, ever heard of...you can't win them all?

Personally, I'm just into the guy's Sci-Fi films.

Even worse now that it's years after the fact. He's been this humble man of integrity, and now he wants his face on the DVD cover? And it's a bad photo for the purposes of presentation, like, "Oh, here's a random shot of me directing the film". I'd have rather he actually posed for a picture to put on the cover.

What the hell is wrong with putting your face on your own work. Is that what you call bragging, when everyone already knows what you've achieved. Some of the most famous painters in the world, paint self-portraits of themselves, are they bragging too?

I think you know what I mean, come on, Bay is bragging his ass off and shooting down his rival with no integrity or class at all.

No, I wasn't comparing the two.

Good boy.

 

[GEDRedemption]

If he is so confident maybe he should put his "Transformers" against Spider-Man 3 or Pirates 3. I wonder who would lose their job over THAT.

Confident, not over confident...that sounds very ignorant what you just said.

 

[xwolverine2]

TITANIC was a chick flick in disguise with great sfx......

i find it nowhere as good as True Lies....

 

[Anti-Moderator]

Confident, not over confident...that sounds very ignorant what you just said.

No, he just knows his film can't hang with the real deals this summer. The comment he made was a dickmove plain and simple. I agree that saying "I wonder who is gonna lose their job after going up against MY movie" is a ignorant comment junior...that's why Bay said it I guess.

 

[GothamProtector]

Didn't Micheal Bay Direct Bad Boys? 1 & 2? Is he bashing his own stuff? That post by him makes no sense. Besides. Look what happeded with Rocky. It came out of nowhere, and was a huge success. Die Hard will do the same. I like both TF and Dh, but I bet they are very close with TF on top, and Dh second with only a couple of million seperating them. I'll see both on opening weekend, though.

 

[GothamProtector]

Oh, and Bad Boys was been there done that stuff when the first one came out in '98. When Die Hard came out, it was original. Nothing like it had come out before. I like a lot of Michel Bay's movies, but comparing Bad Boys to Die Hard is like comparing Eragon to Lord of the Rings. They are incomparable.

 

[xwolverine2]

bad boys 2 had some really cool visuals....
and im not just saying that because i live in miami