New Daredevil Arc Any Good?

[Rellings]

This is the Devil In Cell-Block D.

 

[GNR]

Yuppers.

 

[Darthphere]

Excellent, easily one of the top 5 books out right now.

 

[Elijya]

Daredevil has been an amazing title for 8 years straight, it's worth getting all 80 odd issues of it

I just held a poll to see what everyones favorite Marvel Titles were here, and DD was tied for #1 and a good ways ahead of every other book

so yes: this story arc= Good. Everything before this story arc also = good, so you might want to go back a ways and catch up

 

[MyPokerShirt]

who else was at #1?

 

[Elijya]

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9322779#post9322779

 

[MyPokerShirt]

ASM at 9

Dear God that book needs sortin
just replace it with FNSM and there would be no problems..

 

[Rellings]

Daredevil has been an amazing title for 8 years straight, it's worth getting all 80 odd issues of it

I just held a poll to see what everyones favorite Marvel Titles were here, and DD was tied for #1 and a good ways ahead of every other book

so yes: this story arc= Good. Everything before this story arc also = good, so you might want to go back a ways and catch up

Are the issues just one through eighty, or are there branches I should know about?

 

[Elijya]

ok, Kevin Smith wrote #1-8. He relaunched the book, and got people interested in it again. It's a decent arc called "Guardian Devil"

#9-15 were by David Mack and were pretty cool, and arc called "Parts of a Hole" which introduced a new love interest for DD named Echo (both Smith and Mack's run are collected in Daredevil Hardcover vol 1)


#16-19 were a brilliant arc written by Bendis with art by Mack called "Wake up"

20-25 were fill ins, but ok

#26 is where things really start going. This began a saga written by Bendis which was drawn by Alex Maleev (extremely dark and moody tone to his work) that lasted until #81 (with a small 6 issue break in the middle by Mack again). This saga dealt with the fact that DD's identity was leaked to a newspaper who put it on their front page. DD counters this by public calling the allegation false. But in the meantime his life is a living hell. Everybody knows it's probably true, but if he admits it he'll go to jail.

This has just been one incredible crime saga, one of the best Marvel has ever produced without a doubt. It's worth owning all of these in Hardcover (cheaper, actually, too).

#26-81 are Collected in Daredevil Hardcover vol 2-5

 

[Rellings]

Thanks for your help.

 

[Elijya]

no prob

 

[Elijya]

and here's some of the gorgeous art from Maleev's run:

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[Rellings]

Ya, the art is what really got me to inquire about it. Looks like I will be going to pick up the first few issues at my local comic store tomorrow.

 

[Rellings]

Just stopped by a little comic shop in town that just opened looking for the first couple Daredevil issues, and I was shocked by the pricing. Volume 2 back-issues that started in '98 are priced at five to over six dollars, more then what the comic even say's on it. Guess the shops can sell at whatever price they want with the past issues. I guess the big books with the full arc are they way to go, although those are priced at about $25 Canadian. Im gunna try a couple citys over where there are bigger stores. Also online might be good if I don't get murdered by shipping. Any Canadians specifically that live in Ontario, have any advice on where to shop? Also anyone order online where shipping is not muder?

 

[Elijya]

oh, so you're new to back issues, eh? yeah, when books are a couple years old (hell, even a couple of months old) and they're really good and highly sought after, their prices go up.

Books from about 1980-1996 are cheap, because so many were being produced. Comics were selling well, stores were making money, and collectors were buying multiple copies because they thought the books would be worth alot some day. Then the market collapsed and sales plummeted. Many stores went out of business, and many collectors unloaded their books.

So today there's something in the region of 250,000 regular comic collectors. But books from 1980-1996 were produced in extremely high numbers, 250,000 copies each, easily. Some books have millions. But how many of the current 250K people are interested in any one of those books now? maybe 50k? so there's enough for everyone who wants one to have 5 copies of a book. Therefore, the supply far excedes the demand, and those books are worth next to nothing.

Following that, in order to make money, everyone had to play things close to the belt, and only about as many copies of the book were to be sold could be produced. A book like Daredevil 1998 sold maybe 50,000 copies, let's say, but then word of mouth spread about how good it was and maybe 60 or 70,000 people wanted to own them. Now there's more demand then supply, so prices go up.

The big books ARE the way to go. Keep in mind that though they're priced at $25 canadian, you're getting many 12 or so issue that average out to around $2 apeice, so it's far cheaper. Buying the originals is something for collectors, buying the collected editions is for readers. Some of us do both, but right now I think you're probably most interested in READING, right? so yeah, get the collected editions.

 

[Rellings]

I'm new to everything comic related at the moment. Thanks for the history, I just thought It was the shop owners selling at the prices they felt like. So I will probably go get the Daredevil Volume 1: Guardian Devil.

On another note: I just went through the few comics I bought about 8 years ago at a flea market, and found some Avengers/X-Men crossover arc called Bloodties. Oddly I bought the complete 5 issues of it, and I really didn't enjoy it at all. The first page say's something along the lines of Wolverine just having left the X-Men.

EDIT: Also I see that Amazon.ca has Daredevil Volume 1: Guardian Devil for $12 with $3.95 shipping. Looks good to me.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

It's right after Magneto ripped out his adamantium in X-Men #25 & Wolverine #75. He went on the road to find himself after discoverin' he was born with his claws.

 

[Elijya]

I'm new to everything comic related at the moment. Thanks for the history, I just thought It was the shop owners selling at the prices they felt like. So I will probably go get the Daredevil Volume 1: Guardian Devil.

On another note: I just went through the few comics I bought about 8 years ago at a flea market, and found some Avengers/X-Men crossover arc called Bloodties. Oddly I bought the complete 5 issues of it, and I really didn't enjoy it at all. The first page say's something along the lines of Wolverine just having left the X-Men.

EDIT: Also I see that Amazon.ca has Daredevil Volume 1: Guardian Devil for $12 with $3.95 shipping. Looks good to me.

yeah, the quality of comics was not very good in the early 90s, there are few exceptions, and Bloodties was certainly not one of them

no, the prices on the older comics at the shop are determined by price guides which give estimates of what books are selling for. Comic shop owners look for what the books list in the price guides (there are a few different ones - Overstreet, Wizard - they may have preferences for which one they trust) and then they'll grade the books (because defects lower the price) and then they may add a small amount because they think the guide is under priced and they can probably get someone to buy it for a little more, or lower the price a little because they'd rather get the book out of the store sooner which'll happen more easily if the price is lower. It's up to the shops individually, but it is based on a national standard. Yeah, a store could slap a $10 price tag on any book, but if a price guide says it's only worth $3, no one's going to buy it.

 

[J.R.]

This is the best Marvel book on the shelf right now in my opinion.

 

[Ex11B]

Haven't read it..yet.

 

[Dirtfish]

I'm kinda new to Daredevil but I am an avid fan of Kevin Smith. I want to purchase one of Smith's Daredevil novels but dont know which one to buy.

I'd be grateful of any opinions on the two options:

Daredevil: Guardian Devil V1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0785107371/026-0204171-3837208?v=glance&n=266239

or

Daredevil: Man Without Fear
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0785110151/026-0204171-3837208?v=glance&n=266239

Cheers.

 

[Red]

Go with Man Without Fear.

Or better yet get Bendis's run.

 

[Elijya]

Smith didn't write Man Without Fear, Frank Miller did.

In any case, they're both good books and both worth reading. Daredevil is one of Marvels best characters, and lots of creators have done amazing things with him. He's easily the comics chartacter with the largest ratio of quality stories, IMO, even moreso than Batman or Spider-Man.

Here, I'll merge this with another thread where another new reader was asking about DD yesterday

 

[Dirtfish]

You say Kevin Smith didnt write Man Without Fear but Amazon claim Smith did. And when you look at the cover picture it clearly says Smith.

Maybe you are confused?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0785110151/026-0204171-3837208?v=glance&n=266239

 

[Darthphere]

You say Kevin Smith didnt write Man Without Fear but Amazon claim Smith did. And when you look at the cover picture it clearly says Smith.

Maybe you are confused?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0785110151/026-0204171-3837208?v=glance&n=266239

No, hes right. Daredevil's full title is Daredevil:The Man Without Fear, its on every comic, like The Invincible Iron Man. Kevin SMith wrote Guardian Devil, which was an arc on Daredevil:The Man Without Fear.