New info?

yeah, if he dies, i wouldnt mind him being unapologetic (sp?), even similiar to anakin skywalker in epIII as he burned, with an "i hate you"
 
Brock IS going to die and I doubt he'll apologise, especially considering not so long before, he was on his knees, praying for the Almighty Lord to send Pete 6feet under.
 
Before he dies he could spit blood on Peter's face and say: Die, m*********er.
That would extreme...
 
You do realise that, samuel.L. Jackson hasn't been cast to play venom?
 
I think if Brock does die it will be a ressurectable death like Ock's.

Or perhaps even more ambiguous than that......
 
Ditto. What would be the purpose of Eddies death? With Doc Ock, he needed to redeem himself before letting himself turn into a complete 'monster'. Norman needed to pay for his sins.

But with Eddie, the symbiote is in complete control of him. Sure Eddie has the hate and rage for Peter because he got him fired but is that really something that warrants death? Brock is in the wrong place at the wrong time and I just don't feel killing him has much warrant.

Norman and Otto were products of a combination of bad science and their own ruthless ambitions. It led them to do evil things. And they died for that.

Eddie Brock is a liar, cheat, sleaze, and even wishes Peter dead in church. When he becomes Venom, he will kidnap MJ, and try to kill Peter and probably Harry, too.

He deserves death just as much as the others did.
 
I wouldn't mind the symbiote surviving and hiding in the sewers as a setup for a film in a SM 2099 series....
 
I don't like the way you all are throwing around the word DEATH with such ease. Please, use the term PASSED WAY...or...GONE BYE BYE. :)

Thank you.
 
Ditto. What would be the purpose of Eddies death? With Doc Ock, he needed to redeem himself before letting himself turn into a complete 'monster'. Norman needed to pay for his sins.

But with Eddie, the symbiote is in complete control of him. Sure Eddie has the hate and rage for Peter because he got him fired but is that really something that warrants death? Brock is in the wrong place at the wrong time and I just don't feel killing him has much warrant.
brock doctored photos of spidey so that he would win the reward...fair? certainly isn't. brock has to pay for his sins just like the others did, now don't get me wrong I really really WANT brock to survive so that he can become venom again but because all the other villiand paid for their sins...why can't brock? now brock should live and I think sam knows that so he must have created some alt ending or something but even if he didn't I will still be happy because the film will be great.
 
Norman and Otto were products of a combination of bad science and their own ruthless ambitions. It led them to do evil things. And they died for that.

Eddie Brock is a liar, cheat, sleaze, and even wishes Peter dead in church. When he becomes Venom, he will kidnap MJ, and try to kill Peter and probably Harry, too.

He deserves death just as much as the others did.

So being a sleaze, a liar and a cheat leads to deserving death? Regards Eddie saying he wanted Peter to die in the church; his career is in tatters(albeit his own fault) and loses Gwen. He is driven to utter despair and probably suicidal. He's bound to say things that he doesn't neccessarily mean. Also, we don't know the full story yet. Peter, in exposing him as a cheat, probably totally humiliates Eddie and maybe even gets a goodbye beating.Regarding Venom, Eddie is weak. Unlike Ock who ultimately had the will and strength to take control in the end, Brock is totally consumed by the symbiote and can't stop it even if he wanted to.Unfortunately, I think he will die. And in order to make the general audience accept his death they will have him still being bitter and twisted even without the symbiote. Peter will probably say to a dying Brock 'I'm sorry I couldn't save you from it' and Brock will probably say something like 'Go to Hell!'
 
So being a sleaze, a liar and a cheat leads to deserving death? Regards Eddie saying he wanted Peter to die in the church; his career is in tatters(albeit his own fault) and loses Gwen. He is driven to utter despair and probably suicidal. He's bound to say things that he doesn't neccessarily mean.

And Norman was on the verge of losing the company he spent his life building and was being shoved out by the greedy board members, and Otto lost his wife and his life's work.

Their losses are just as valid as Eddie's, in fact they're even more valid and tragic. Eddie loses a job. Norman and Otto had much more at stake. But, it was all their own fault. Just like Eddie.

But they still became something evil. And so will Brock. So, Brock dying is not any less valid than Norman and Otto.

The Venom fans need to get over this.

Peter, in exposing him as a cheat, probably totally humiliates Eddie and maybe even gets a goodbye beating.Regarding Venom, Eddie is weak. Unlike Ock who ultimately had the will and strength to take control in the end, Brock is totally consumed by the symbiote and can't stop it even if he wanted to.

That's Eddie's own fault. That's his own downfall. He doesn't want to resist the symbiote. He LIKES the symbiote. I'll bet he doesn't even try to resist it, unlike Peter. Brock embraces it.

That's why he gets fangs and the tongue.
 
And Norman was on the verge of losing the company he spent his life building and was being shoved out by the greedy board members, and Otto lost his wife and his life's work.

Their losses are just as valid as Eddie's, in fact they're even more valid and tragic. Eddie loses a job. Norman and Otto had much more at stake. But, it was all their own fault. Just like Eddie.

But they still became something evil. And so will Brock. So, Brock dying is not any less valid than Norman and Otto.

The Venom fans need to get over this.



That's Eddie's own fault. That's his own downfall. He doesn't want to resist the symbiote. He LIKES the symbiote. I'll bet he doesn't even try to resist it, unlike Peter. Brock embraces it.

That's why he gets fangs and the tongue.

Maybe Eddie doesn't see any other way out. He doesn't have any way out. He can't start again in the Career he lovers. He can look forward to a lonely future probably doing ****tty jobs. But then he can feel this thing's great power as it consumes him. He under-estimates what it will turn him into but if he wanted to change his mind it's too late, the symbiote has already taken complete control. You may be right about the fangs and teeth but he doesn't necessarily have to be happy about embracing it. Like I said, he has No Way Out.

With Ock and Norman, I think they went insane in the films before they became 'evil'. Norman was driven over the edge by the boards betrayal and Ock must be unhinged when the containment field begins to fail and he is willing to risk everyone's lives for his own greed. Eddie shouldn't become insane until the Symbiote takes complete control.
 
Maybe Eddie doesn't see any other way out. He doesn't have any way out. He can't start again in the Career he lovers. He can look forward to a lonely future probably doing ****tty jobs. But then he can feel this thing's great power as it consumes him. He under-estimates what it will turn him into but if he wanted to change his mind it's too late, the symbiote has already taken complete control. You may be right about the fangs and teeth but he doesn't necessarily have to be happy about embracing it. Like I said, he has No Way Out.

With Ock and Norman, I think they went insane in the films before they became 'evil'. Norman was driven over the edge by the boards betrayal and Ock must be unhinged when the containment field begins to fail and he is willing to risk everyone's lives for his own greed. Eddie shouldn't become insane until the Symbiote takes complete control.
Norman wasn't crazy befor he became evil.....he was obssesed with his work and once he took the serum gas he became sick and twisted creating a split personality. brock wants the symbiote, he feels he can over power spidey (which he could) and be able to defeat him. the anger eddie had and the anger the symbiote had combined to make a sadistic monster that actually makes brock feel good.
 
Maybe Eddie doesn't see any other way out. He doesn't have any way out. He can't start again in the Career he lovers. He can look forward to a lonely future probably doing ****tty jobs. But then he can feel this thing's great power as it consumes him. He under-estimates what it will turn him into but if he wanted to change his mind it's too late, the symbiote has already taken complete control. You may be right about the fangs and teeth but he doesn't necessarily have to be happy about embracing it. Like I said, he has No Way Out.

That's his own choice. He could easily move away where his reputation won't follow him, and get a photography job elsewhere.

But he chooses to stay and wallow in his own self inflicted misery. Even wishing death on the one he blames for his own misfortune.

With Ock and Norman, I think they went insane in the films before they became 'evil'. Norman was driven over the edge by the boards betrayal and Ock must be unhinged when the containment field begins to fail and he is willing to risk everyone's lives for his own greed.

That's not evil. That's desperation. Ruthless ambition. Fear of accepting failure.

Norman's entire future was riding on his performance enhancers having a successful human trial. He took a desperate gamble on himself, despite the fact that lab studies had shown they have dangerous side effects.

Otto had spent his life working on his fusion theories. He refused to believe he had miscalculated when it went haywire. He thought it was a minor glitch that would stabilize. And it cost him his wife.

That's not evil or insanity. Just desperate men doing desperate things for the greater good.

Eddie shouldn't become insane until the Symbiote takes complete control.

Let's put it this way. Who were the nicer people before they became villains?? Did Norman or Otto do anything dishonest, nasty, underhanded, or unpleasant to anyone pre super villainy? No.

But Brock will.
 
Ditto. What would be the purpose of Eddies death? With Doc Ock, he needed to redeem himself before letting himself turn into a complete 'monster'. Norman needed to pay for his sins.

But with Eddie, the symbiote is in complete control of him. Sure Eddie has the hate and rage for Peter because he got him fired but is that really something that warrants death? Brock is in the wrong place at the wrong time and I just don't feel killing him has much warrant.

I think it fits perfectly. The whole movie depicts Eddie Brock's spiral downward and death is as low as it gets. I wouldn't see the sense in having the guy arrested. How funny would that look, seeing Brock completely naked after the symbiote leaves him? Then, the cops pull up, handcuff him as he struggles to tell Pete "I'll get you next time Spider-Man! And your little dog, too!".
 
Just let him die... how long can you drag a lame ass villain like Venom anyways... the fact that he is in the movie should get us fuming... they shouldve saved Venom for 4.... but w/e...
 
I don't so much have a problem Eddie dying, but I would prefer for him to take the symbiote with him. What are all the rumors on how he dies? Does Peter try kill him while the symbiote tries to reattatch itself to Pete? Or does Eddie get knocked out when the symbiote tries to seperate to return to Peter? I know in the comic it did. Or will the symbiote kill brock upon returning to Peter? Someone tell me lol. I'm just hinting around here...
 
Spider-Girl™;11151221 said:
I don't so much have a problem Eddie dying, but I would prefer for him to take the symbiote with him. What are all the rumors on how he dies? Does Peter try kill him while the symbiote tries to reattatch itself to Pete? Or does Eddie get knocked out when the symbiote tries to seperate to return to Peter? I know in the comic it did. Or will the symbiote kill brock upon returning to Peter? Someone tell me lol. I'm just hinting around here...
the only question that has been answered by the script summary is that the symbiote tries to reattatch itself to peter, no confirmation how brock dies, only thing said about brocks death is he gets shanked. he probably dies from an explosion at the construction site or maybe from falling off something....I mean it's a construction site, there are a number of possibilities.
 
Here's a quote from this new info!

When does Venom first rear his ugly head?

The symbiote is hanging around Central Park, but as for Venom, the recognisbale alien face with all the scary, jagged teeth? Believe it or not, Venom first rears his ugly head when Peter and his Russian landlord get into an argument about rent. That poor Russian guy.

End quote!

Something here doesn't add up! It says that the symbiote hangs around central Park after Peter gets rid of it in church... Then how does it end up all alone in central park, when we see in the UNfinished trailer that it falls directly down on Brock??? Or am I misunderstanding something here?
 
Here's a quote from this new info!

When does Venom first rear his ugly head?

The symbiote is hanging around Central Park, but as for Venom, the recognisbale alien face with all the scary, jagged teeth? Believe it or not, Venom first rears his ugly head when Peter and his Russian landlord get into an argument about rent. That poor Russian guy.

End quote!

Something here doesn't add up! It says that the symbiote hangs around central Park after Peter gets rid of it in church... Then how does it end up all alone in central park, when we see in the UNfinished trailer that it falls directly down on Brock??? Or am I misunderstanding something here?
Your misunderstanding something. The symbiote is hanging around central park before it latches itself to Peter, not Brock.
 
Hanging around central park, picking up some girls, having a hot dog and a drink.... ? lol

But no surprise here, Raimi killing off ANOTHER villain! At least sandman is supposed to live, but they can't really put him in prison, and the whole jars thing annoys me. And there's no way I want him becoming good. I think him being beaten up and knocked into the sea to drift out would be best...
 
Something here doesn't add up! It says that the symbiote hangs around central Park after Peter gets rid of it in church... Then how does it end up all alone in central park, when we see in the UNfinished trailer that it falls directly down on Brock??? Or am I misunderstanding something here?

Simple logic- the symbiote hangs around Central Park then latches onto Peter. That's all the quote says. You misread it as "after he takes it off". All it's saying is that it first appears in Central Park and that the first appearance of Venom is later down the road.

Dok Ock said:
That's why he gets fangs and the tongue.

Debateable, if the leak of Peter being 'infected' is true. It would mean that the teeth, tongue and claws are a part of the symbiote fully taking control and not something unique to Brock. We just see him embracing it more than Peter.

the only question that has been answered by the script summary is that the symbiote tries to reattatch itself to peter, no confirmation how brock dies, only thing said about brocks death is he gets shanked. he probably dies from an explosion at the construction site or maybe from falling off something....I mean it's a construction site, there are a number of possibilities.

Harry is covered in bladed weaponry. Venom gets 'shanked'. Some will say differently, but I would just put two and two together.

But with Eddie, the symbiote is in complete control of him. Sure Eddie has the hate and rage for Peter because he got him fired but is that really something that warrants death? Brock is in the wrong place at the wrong time and I just don't feel killing him has much warrant.

That's a technicolor way of looking at it. Brock prays for Peter's death in a church dedicated to God way before he finds out Peter is Spider-Man or has the symbiote drop on him. He then proves how lacking in upright morals he is by fully embracing the 'infection' of his body, not once resisting it. There's no victim in this, just an unholy union between two power-hungry beings.

The point I'm trying to make is this- Brock didn't ask for the alien symbiote nor did it ask for him, and when you really think about it how long would it be if he didn't have the symbiote until he decided to take matters into his own hands? He's a man lacking a conscience, and if this were a normal situation between normal people there's only so much a man like Brock would take until he picked up the nearest six-shooter and tried to shoot Peter right between the eyes. The only difference in this case is that he has an alien symbiote fall from above that offers the power he needs to take out someone like Peter.
 
how do we know that website were the info was found is legit
 
how do we know that website were the info was found is legit

It matches up with the other script leaks and production observations of onlookers, so there are two possibilities: this is a source worth citing, or a coincidence on a grand scale that took multiple sources of info and accurately cites things that will most likely make it to the final product.

I choose the former.
 

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