Oh yes a true crime, sir. How many people love the Nolan Batman films? A lot. Avengers was a fun movie that kids can enjoy. DC tried to make a lighter superhero film with Green Lantern but it didn't work. Kids are getting top notch movies like Wreck-It Ralph and ParaNorman. They have had stuff like Avengers: EMH, Batman: TBATB, Adventure Time, Ben 10, the Power Rangers reboot, the new TMNT toon and other cool stuff on TV. I don't buy the whole kids are left out in the cold crap because some stuff goes over their heads in a Nolan Batman film. There's plenty of entertaining stuff for kids out there.
I find it funny that you like the CGI film considering that there were quite a bit of slow dialogue heavy scenes there. That's not exactly catnip for the kids.
I'm not sure what you're getting at, sir.
I'll start with Green Lantern. Yes please do make your point by citing a poorly executed film and then simply blame it on the "light" tone. That's kinda off base, that would be like me saying the reason the Punisher films failed(twice) is because they were dark, when in reality there is alot more arguments to be made on the matter.
I noticed in the same breath you mentioned Avengers...using your logic, avengers making that much more than nolan's Batman means light films are better right...
When did I say, there isn't "plenty of entertaining stuff out there" for kids?
I was talking about Kids and Batman. You can draw out a 5 page list of kids programming for all the good it would do you.
Lot's of people "love" nolans films, apparently even more people "love" the Transformers films, that doesn't say all to much about what's right or wrong though.
The issue that fans boys love to beat over the head is that of their precious childhood being taken advantaged of. They act like there is a crime being committed and it's at the cost/sake of their 8 year old selves. They also think that just because they are grown now that the material needs to evolve to still satisfy their now "grown" minds. The equivalent would be demanding Hasbro make a Barbie movie in the tone of Sex & the City, cause that's what grown up girls like. This is folly. The property was geared towards 8 year olds in it's conception and for arguments sake, for 8 year olds it should stay. That's my point.
So when we talk of "crime" I point to the 8 year old with the batman toy in the audience watching this big nolan movie and instead of enjoying a film made for him he's watching a studio make money on a film called batman but instead it's Serpico and 1 third of self important set up in that law and order vain. Makes no difference to me, I love that stuff, but then again I'm not shouting a word about my childhood being raped.
As far as this discussion is concerned, I think TMNT 2007 is fine. A kid can walk into that movie with his action figures in hand and not be made to feel stupid. I love that you think otherwise though.
Long story short. I have just as much ground to hold up a picket sigh that reads, "Chris Nolan raped my childhood" as these fan boys have to do the same for Bay and his ilk. On the grounds that these properties used to be explicitly for kids(at least, that's where they found their initial success and money), and now some honor that and some simply don't.