New pics of Toby with the black suit . . . Does this mimic Superman III?

If it weren't for the fact that theses things happend to Peter in the comics, or the fact that it is a logical way to progress the movies, I'd agree the Spider-Man films mimic the Supes films, but the fact is THESE HAPPEND IN THE COMIC!!! Stop with that Spider-Man mimics Superman crap. It is nonsense. Read a Spider-Man comic before making these points.
 
If Spider-Man 3 were like Superman 3

1. Harry would want to take over the world using some sort of super computer.. to get his money back from the Octavius debacle

2. Chris tucker creates the symbiote to prevent Spider-Man from stopping Harry.

3. Sandman is a throw away character... perhaps so much so that he is the equivelent of that weird electric she-monster at the end of Superman 3.

4. Spidey faces off with the symbiote and wins... also don't forget the part where he picks up a hooker while under the influence of the symbiote

5. and I die a little inside
 
Abysstare said:
As for why would Raimi utilize a storyline that didn't work the first time, ala Superman III, probably because he hopes to do it RIGHT. After all, it's not the idea, but the execution of the idea that failed.

So fingers crossed for a kick-ass third issue of this cinematic comic-book. :)

"It's not easy being me" said supes to Lane. I can see already that this movie will rip off of spider-man big time. the personality and feel of the movie will be exactly the same.

I still say Raimi has only ripped off of the spider-man comic book, and he has not ripped off of the superman movies. Spider-Man no more happened in the comic books, so that's why he did it. He even copied that one scene to look identical to the cover of the issue where it happened. The suit in the trash can? That's influenced from the comic book not the supes movie.

In the first movie? spider-man used his powers for greed and self gain. He didn't care about helping people. He cared about making money. that's a spider-man thing.
 
I think Raimi ruined Spideys "greed and self gain" by having justified Peter letting the robber get away.
 
Abaddon said:
I think Raimi ruined Spideys "greed and self gain" by having justified Peter letting the robber get away.

what? how could you say Raimi ruined it? that is exactly what happened in the comic book. that's how it originally was. that was Stan's idea, so how did Raimi ruin it?

IT WAS ALREADY LIKE THAT! :o
 
Abaddon said:
I think Raimi ruined Spideys "greed and self gain" by having justified Peter letting the robber get away.

Ok, that's just dumb. Shut up
 
that's one of the greatest story arcs of spider-man's history. possibly the greatest. that's what made him who he is.
 
Spider-Bite said:
that's one of the greatest story arcs of spider-man's history. possibly the greatest. that's what made him who he is.

I agree. Hell, its THE arc, with out it, there probably is no Spider-Man.
 
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If that's EMO, that's pretty much how 80% of (Teens/young adults) New Yorkers dress.:confused:
 
Emo isn't just a look. It's a state of mind.
 
Duende Verde said:
To all the fan boys, at least get your facts right if you're going to compare it to Superman III.
There was no red kryptonite in the third movie, it was synthetic green kryptonite laced with tar.:P

Thank you, someone actually remembers this detail correctly.

As for the film, it's defintely not pulling from the Superman movies. It's all coming from the source material, just slightly slanted by Sam Raimi and co.
 
Spider-Bite said:
what? how could you say Raimi ruined it? that is exactly what happened in the comic book. that's how it originally was. that was Stan's idea, so how did Raimi ruin it?

IT WAS ALREADY LIKE THAT! :o


Peter didn't need the owner to screw him to over in order to justify letting the robber go.In the comics he was motivated by hubris and not by some lame act of retribution.
 
cmill216 said:
Emo isn't just a look. It's a state of mind.
You mean just like whiny ass comic book fanboyish geeks? Which I happen to think is worst than any EMO I've ever encountered. Just look at this f---ing thread. My favorite superhero comic book film is better than yours, my favorite hero is better than yours, this and that should be more like the comics, blah, blah, blah...:o
 
Abaddon said:
Peter didn't need the owner to screw him to over in order to justify letting the robber go.In the comics he was motivated by hubris and not by some lame act of retribution.

so that just made pete look less evil. It didn't ruin the story. If anything it made it better.
 
Spider-Bite said:
so that just made pete look less evil. It didn't ruin the story. If anything it made it better.


Oh,it didn't ruin the story.Just an aspect of it.It seemed like he was trying hard to make Pete look goody-goody.It wasn't necessary.In the comics Peter's powers made him arrogant.He wasn't evil.
 
Abaddon said:
Oh,it didn't ruin the story.Just an aspect of it.It seemed like he was trying hard to make Pete look goody-goody.It wasn't necessary.In the comics Peter's powers made him arrogant.He wasn't evil.

And the winner by Ko is Abaddon. :)
 
Abaddon said:
I think Raimi ruined Spideys "greed and self gain" by having justified Peter letting the robber get away.

i understand what you're saying but Peter is hero, no matter how badly the manager treated him, he shouldn't have let the robber get away, if not for the manager but for all the other people that might get robbed in the future.
 
Spider-Bite said:
what? how could you say Raimi ruined it? that is exactly what happened in the comic book. that's how it originally was. that was Stan's idea, so how did Raimi ruin it?

IT WAS ALREADY LIKE THAT! :o
exactly abbandon doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
SLYspyder said:
i understand what you're saying but Peter is hero, no matter how badly the manager treated him, he shouldn't have let the robber get away, if not for the manager but for all the other people that might get robbed in the future.


True,but I'm pretty sure the general audience was on Pete's side in letting the robber get away.Anyone would've done the same.


But in any case,it still wasn't necessary to change his motivation(or lack thereof).It's just bothered how Raimi seems bent on making Peter the salt of the earth.
 
the robber even tells him "thanks" llol It's still the same deal to me basically... Peter doesn't do the right thing and pays for it in the end.

that whole thing was actually alright with me. rest of the movie though, not so much.
 
Bah,I always liked that Peter was a bottom-feeding nerd who got powers and then started acting like a big shot.He'd put on the mask and say and do everything he wished he couldve as Peter Parker.:)
 
ultimatefan said:
Which is EXACTLY what he´s doing, Pete giving up on being Spidey is a storyline from the comics and so is the black symbiote... geez...

I know what has happened in the comics but Raimi could use other storylines which is just as intriguing if not more. At the end of the day, the FACT is, the storylines of the movies mirror those of the superman movies, regardless of wether the events happened in the comics or not.
 

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