The Official Costume Thread - - - - - - - - Part 17

[Gamma_Powered_God]

The other Superman contender. Have you seen this guy. They prob couldn't use him cus he wouldn't fit in the suit!, they'd have to paint it on like Mystique.

Yeah Joe Manganiello is a beast- 6'4, 240 pounds and ripped. I think Joe would have done great as Supes as well if he had gotten the part.

 

[Asgard]

I liked him for the role too.

I think he may have been too old. That and/or they wanted someone who looked more like Superman from the comics.

 

[Gamma_Powered_God]

I liked him for the role too.

I think he may have been too old. That and/or they wanted someone who looked more like Superman from the comics.

Joe says that it was a scheduling conflict with True Blood, and he never got to screen test. There was a huge online movement for him to get the part at the time. I would have dropped playing Alcide Herveuax on True Blood for Superman in a heartbeat.

 

[Elayis]

I only meant that the Cavill pic looks like he is parading the curl around and that it did look fake in that pic. he obviously has curls, I just don't think that was one of his.

Someone told me those street pics of him with the curl were at Comicon and was just for PR.

I'd have to disagree with you on that one. I don't personally feel that it looked fake, nor as forced and horrid as Routh's.

Minor quibbles aside, I can assure you that that shot of Cavill at Comic-Con was entirely accidental. His hair is just naturally curly, and the wind somehow managed to blow one of his hair strands down on his forehead. I can say this with full confidence now that we've seen him on set, and Snyder and Co. have definitely moved away from the s-curl.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

As requested:

--dk7

I like it...it's takes some getting used to but hey...it's still Superman

 

[Logan's Lady]

Well, Cavil is listed at 6'1" and Adams 5'4" that's a 7" difference between Superman and Lois.
Routh is 6'2" and Bosworth 5'5" which is also a 7" difference.
With Reeve at 6'4" and Kidder at 5'6" that's a 10" difference.

Was there a lot of talk about Routh's height for the SR movie? (I honestly don't remember).
I guess if Routh/Bosworth worked on film with the heights than there's going to be no issues with Cavill and Adams.

 

[moviedoors]

I guess if Routh/Bosworth worked on film with the heights than there's going to be no issues with Cavill and Adams.

I think it's a safe bet the height difference between Cavill and Adams won't be an issue. Like at all.

 

[Caboose]

The more I look and think about it, the more I think the suit has very little padding. I think that's pretty much just him under there (except for the abs area). I mean, check out Jeremy Renner's arms. With the routine Cavill was using, he could get his arms and shoulders just as big or bigger than that.

Sorry, but no. There is no way in hell that suit isn't padded like crazy. You don't honestly think that's really Cavill's vein popping out of his right arm, do you? The abs are padded too, as well as the chest. He'd need to be bodybuilder size to have his pecs show through the suit like that. Cavill's in the best shape of his life, but wearing a suit like that makes you lose a lot of definition. Trust me on this one.

 

[B]

Right I've really warmed up to the new suit design & I was actually trying to think of things that I personally didn't like about it & I think I've found something.

I don't like the gauntlet like things on the end of his arms. I can't help but think if it was just the fabric from the rest of the suit that it would look better..

 

[TerryMcGinnis]

Sorry, but no. There is no way in hell that suit isn't padded like crazy. You don't honestly think that's really Cavill's vein popping out of his right arm, do you? The abs are padded too, as well as the chest. He'd need to be bodybuilder size to have his pecs show through the suit like that. Cavill's in the best shape of his life, but wearing a suit like that makes you lose a lot of definition. Trust me on this one.

Yep, but people take this stuff very lightly. I'm all about done explaining how getting big AND lean, specifically in the shoulder girdle and chest is serious business, takes a lot of time, even with all the stars aligning + certain 'chemical aid' - when you put on a thick suit you'll still look smooth and flat and, for the most part, smaller.

 

[sf2]

so what the padding if it looks good. as long as he doesn't look like he is wearing one.

 

[ElDuderino]

Sorry, but no. There is no way in hell that suit isn't padded like crazy. You don't honestly think that's really Cavill's vein popping out of his right arm, do you? The abs are padded too, as well as the chest. He'd need to be bodybuilder size to have his pecs show through the suit like that. Cavill's in the best shape of his life, but wearing a suit like that makes you lose a lot of definition. Trust me on this one.

Is that padding creating Renner's vein? Cavill's suit could have a fake vein, but no padding.

And I said in the post you quoted that the abs are clearly padded/molded. I wonder how they got the rest of the suit's padding so naturally but faile on the abs.

 

[souperman]

I'd have to disagree with you on that one. I don't personally feel that it looked fake, nor as forced and horrid as Routh's.

Minor quibbles aside, I can assure you that that shot of Cavill at Comic-Con was entirely accidental. His hair is just naturally curly, and the wind somehow managed to blow one of his hair strands down on his forehead. I can say this with full confidence now that we've seen him on set, and Snyder and Co. have definitely moved away from the s-curl.

Routh's was pretty bad no doubt.

ok, I'll buy that argument...for now. But I'll be watching that curl.

It may show up somewhere...

 

[Caboose]

Is that padding creating Renner's vein? Cavill's suit could have a fake vein, but no padding.

And I said in the post you quoted that the abs are clearly padded/molded. I wonder how they got the rest of the suit's padding so naturally but faile on the abs.

Renner's arms aren't THAT big, really. He's just in good shape, nothing more, which is fine because Hawkeye doesn't need to be huge.
I like the padding actually, it's very well done overall. I think they didn't want the abs to look super real because that would look a little fake, if that makes any sense?

 

[souperman]

Renner's arms aren't THAT big, really. He's just in good shape, nothing more, which is fine because Hawkeye doesn't need to be huge.
I like the padding actually, it's very well done overall. I think they didn't want the abs to look super real because that would look a little fake, if that makes any sense?

that and for contiuity. it would be hard (or imposible) for cavill to maintain an exact phisque during the entire filming and possible sequels. The suit helps maintain the look.

Any idea if they are attempting to film more than one film at a time for a sequel or will we have to waiit til 2018 for MOS 2 ?

 

[souperman]

Tag line for MOS:

You'll believe a man can make you wait 650 days to see a movie!

I could get an audience with the Pope faster... Heck , I could become Pope faster.

 

[not_a_victim]

Renner's arms aren't THAT big, really. He's just in good shape, nothing more, which is fine because Hawkeye doesn't need to be huge.
I like the padding actually, it's very well done overall. I think they didn't want the abs to look super real because that would look a little fake, if that makes any sense?

Absolutely wrong.
According to Marvel, Clint Barton was, at one point, supposed to be the most physically perfect "non-augmented" human in the Marvel universe. They subtlety eschewed this point after the whole Pym particles thing, but the Marvel Encyclopedia cited it forever.
Additionally, the only reason Renner has prominent veins is he has straps around his wrists, which is increasing the blood pressure in the veins. He is in no way big enough or cut enough to have those veins otherwise.
My vote was and always will be Matt Damon +30 pounds for Barton, not Renner. Even when he is lean, Renner has a doughy face, not heroic looking at all.

 

[ElDuderino]

Renner's arms aren't THAT big, really. He's just in good shape, nothing more, which is fine because Hawkeye doesn't need to be huge.
I like the padding actually, it's very well done overall. I think they didn't want the abs to look super real because that would look a little fake, if that makes any sense?

I didn't ask how big you thought his arms are. I can look at them and tell how big they are. I was asking if it was padding that created Renner's vein.

If your sole argument that Cavill's wearing padding (other than in the abs) is that you can see a vein, that's a pretty poor argument.

 

[moviedoors]

I just a/b-ed Cavill with Routh and Reeves. It's not even close. This suit is way, way cooler than either of those.

 

[Caboose]

Absolutely wrong.
According to Marvel, Clint Barton was, at one point, supposed to be the most physically perfect "non-augmented" human in the Marvel universe. They subtlety eschewed this point after the whole Pym particles thing, but the Marvel Encyclopedia cited it forever.
Additionally, the only reason Renner has prominent veins is he has straps around his wrists, which is increasing the blood pressure in the veins. He is in no way big enough or cut enough to have those veins otherwise.
My vote was and always will be Matt Damon +30 pounds for Barton, not Renner. Even when he is lean, Renner has a doughy face, not heroic looking at all.

Yes you're right, but what I meant was that being very muscular is not a defining trait of Hawkeye. When someone asks you what Barton's like, the first thing you're gonna say is not: " he's a really big dude". It's gonna be: " he's a super accurate archer".
Also, I think Renner is an absolutely spot-on choice for Hawkeye. He excels at playing *****y guys.

 

[Caboose]

I didn't ask how big you thought his arms are. I can look at them and tell how big they are. I was asking if it was padding that created Renner's vein.

If your sole argument that Cavill's wearing padding (other than in the abs) is that you can see a vein, that's a pretty poor argument.

No, that's not my sole argument, though I still believe it's a valid one. There's just no way you can get that much definition without padding, unless your muscles are cut like a diamond.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

so what the padding if it looks good. as long as he doesn't look like he is wearing one.

I don't want general audiences to think that HC doesn't have a good physique though just because the suit has some padding in areas. They need to have at least one scene where he's in a t-shirt or something like that -- similar to what Welling would occasionally wear in Smallville.

When you see HC in Immortals, it's obvious that he got pumped up for the role of Theseus.

And in MOS, you want audiences to believe that Superman is in good shape whether he's in the suit or not.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

No, that's not my sole argument, though I still believe it's a valid one. There's just no way you can get that much definition without padding, unless your muscles are cut like a diamond.

What do you think of the Captain America suit being used in Avengers (not the one from First Avenger)? In my opinion, it does a very poor job of emphasizing Evans' physique. What do you make of that suit?

 

[Caboose]

What do you think of the Captain America suit being used in Avengers (not the one from First Avenger)? In my opinion, it does a very poor job of emphasizing Evans' physique. What do you make of that suit?

I'm not a big fan of it. The only padding seems to be in the shoulders and a bit in the chest. I like the basic design of it but it should have been executed better. Plus, that helmet makes his head look too big, which in turn makes the rest of his torso look smaller.
Oh well, let's hope it looks better on film.

 

[ElDuderino]

No, that's not my sole argument, though I still believe it's a valid one.

It's not a valid one, because it does not indicate any padding, it merely indicates that either (1) the suit is thin enough to show veins or (2) there is a fake vein. It provides no evidence whatsoever that there is also padding.

There's just no way you can get that much definition without padding, unless your muscles are cut like a diamond.

There isn't all that much definition really in the muscles except in the abs. Depending on the thickness of the suit itself, definition could certainly show through.

Again, though, it's odd that everywhere on the suit looks natural except for the abs. Why did they screw up the abs so much but get everything else to look so flawless?