New planets in solar system.

[Iceman]

I don't like these 'rocks' being considered planets EDIT (to stop me looking like a complete dufus )

With other moons, the center of gravity is within the planet it orbits.

With Pluto and Charon, the center of gravity is inbetween the space between Pluto and Charon.

Instead of Charon orbiting Pluto, like a normal satelite does with it's planet; Pluto orbits Charon and Charon orbits Pluto.

Also Charon is over half the size of Pluto. No satelite is over half the size of the planet they orbit.

Thus Pluto and Charon are a double planet system

Very interesting.

I'd rather Pluto was declassified if it follows a different orbiting system.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I don't like these 'rocks' being considered planets unless they orbit the sun (even if they are huge).

Very interesting.

I'd rather Pluto was declassified if it follows a different orbiting system.

Except Pluto, Charon, Ceres, and 2003 UB313 do orbit the sun. Almost every object in the solar system orbits the sun. Asteroids, comets, planets, etc.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

Oh dear.

 

[Speedball]

AHHH!!!!
I've said the same thing Hippie Hunter said like three times in this thread already.
Pluto + Charon= Binary Planet Orbit.

 

[hippie_hunter]

AHHH!!!!
I've said the same thing Hippie Hunter said like three times in this thread already.
Pluto + Charon= Binary Planet Orbit.

The way I said it was better

 

[Iceman]

Except Pluto, Charon, Ceres, and 2003 UB313 do orbit the sun. Almost every object in the solar system orbits the sun. Asteroids, comets, planets, etc.

LOL I just read my statement back and I admit the stench of stoooopidity is all over it (a lot of it deservedly so).

What I was trying to say (which is different to the crap I actually said) is that I don’t like ‘rocks’ that are considered planets to have other forces strongly affecting their orbit (in the way that Charon affects Pluto) ie they are 'small' enough to have to take the movements of other entities aside from the sun into account.

 

[hippie_hunter]

LOL I just read my statement back and I admit the stench of stoooopidity is all over it (a lot of it deservedly so).

What I was trying to say (which is different to the crap I actually said) is that I don’t like ‘rocks’ that are considered planets to have other forces strongly affecting their orbit (in the way that Charon affects Pluto) ie they are 'small' enough to have to take the movements of other entities aside from the sun into account.

But Pluto and Charon act like a double planet system (simlar to a binary star), and they fit the requirements for the shape and size to be counted as planets under the new proposal.

 

[Iceman]

But Pluto and Charon act like a double planet system (simlar to a binary star), and they fit the requirements for the shape and size to be counted as planets under the new proposal

Is Pluto the only planet (of those currently considered planets) that is subject to this system?

Also do you agree with the new definition and that all the new planets should be included?

 

[darkdaz]

Nah they should stop messing around with Asteroids and go out and find some proper planets. They are just trying to cop out so they don't have to look for Planets in other Star Systems, Plantes which have more of a chance of being M class. Instead of a bunch of freezing cold Asteroids in the Kyper Belt.

And they should Get back to Work on Intergalactic travel. 21st Century and there are no Hover Boards, Anti Grav Cars or Star Ships. Rockets and Shuttles don't count they are outdated and boring.

 

[Iceman]

Nah they should stop messing around with Asteroids and go out and find some proper planets. They are just trying to cop out so they don't have to look for Planets in other Star Systems, Plantes which have more of a chance of being M class. Instead of a bunch of freezing cold Asteroids in the Kyper Belt. And they should Get back to Work on Intergalactic travel. 21st Century and there are no Hover Boards, Anti Grav Cars or Star Ships. Rockets and Shuttles don't count they are outdated and boring.

Yeah I can remember doing some sort of project in school years ago on how things would be in the 00s. We're way behind schedule.

 

[darkdaz]

Yeah and every time i Scientist says they are working on something they always end in it will be around in about 20 to 30 years. Problem is no one wastes enough money on science anymore no one seems to give a damn.

I want to see Intergalactic StarShips before i die that are not Fake CGI movie crap. Work on Warp field Technology. Have to manioulate space since you can't travel faster than Lightspeed.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Is Pluto the only planet (of those currently considered planets) that is subject to this system?

Pluto and Charon will be the only binary planet system so far. Yet along with 2003 UB313, they will be considered plutons. Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars will be considered terrestrial planets. Ceres will be considered a dwarf planet. Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune will be considered gas planets.

If given planet status, Vesta, Pallas, and Hygeia will be given the status of dwarf planet. However, Hygeia will probally have to be renamed Salus and Pallas would need a name of a Roman god to continue on the Roman naming of planets

If given planet status 2003 EL6, 2005 FY5, 2002 TX300, 2002 AW197, Sedna, Orcus, Quaoar, Ixion and Varuna will become plutons. Sedna, Quaoar, Ixion, and Varuna would need to receive Roman names.

Also do you agree with the new definition and that all the new planets should be included?

Yes, on account that it would finally end the debate about the definition of a planet. And is "somewhat" sensible even though not being perfect.

 

[Iceman]

Yeah and every time i Scientist says they are working on something they always end in it will be around in about 20 to 30 years. Problem is no one wastes enough money on science anymore no one seems to give a damn.

I want to see Intergalactic StarShips before i die that are not Fake CGI movie crap. Work on Warp field Technology. Have to manioulate space since you can't travel faster than Lightspeed.

The speed of developments in space exploration seem to be a lot slower now (not that I keep up with the latest developments) than when I was younger. Shame. I'll never get to travel to any new planets (at least not until they get even more desperate with their planet classifications).

 

[Iceman]

Pluto and Charon will be the only binary planet system so far. Yet along with 2003 UB313, they will be considered plutons. Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars will be considered terrestrial planets. Ceres will be considered a dwarf planet. Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune will be considered gas planets.

If given planet status, Vesta, Pallas, and Hygeia will be given the status of dwarf planet. However, Hygeia will probally have to be renamed Salus and Pallas would need a name of a Roman god to continue on the Roman naming of planets

If given planet status 2003 EL6, 2005 FY5, 2002 TX300, 2002 AW197, Sedna, Orcus, Quaoar, Ixion and Varuna will become plutons. Sedna, Quaoar, Ixion, and Varuna would need to receive Roman names.

Thanks

I'm glad they went with Roman names for planets. It could have been so much worse.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Since Pluto might not be considered a planet anymore,the Solar System should end with Neptune.Is the Solar System going to continue to expand outward,and all the planets in the galaxy going to be a part of the system?

 

[TNC9852002]

-TNC

 

[hippie_hunter]

Since Pluto might not be considered a planet anymore,the Solar System should end with Neptune.Is the Solar System going to continue to expand outward,and all the planets in the galaxy going to be a part of the system?

No, Pluto's planethood status has practically remained secure

 

[hippie_hunter]

Thanks

I'm glad they went with Roman names for planets. It could have been so much worse.

Giving the named objects new Roman names might not happen, but according to the rules, a planet in our solar system has to be named after a Roman diety

 

[Iceman]

Giving the named objects new Roman names might not happen, but according to the rules, a planet in our solar system has to be named after a Roman diety

I'm all for sticking with the rules. I wonder what system they'd use to name planets in a newly discovered solar system.

 

[dmcnx]

Ixion ftw

 

[xii22_loop]

if theres another planet that would totally discredit Sailormoon, i mean, where was the extra sailor senshi? definately not on the mooon.

 

[Sunstar]

Giving the named objects new Roman names might not happen, but according to the rules, a planet in our solar system has to be named after a Roman diety

Thats so unfair, why can't planets in our solar system be named after other deitys(like Hindu, Mayan, Greek etc.)! Whats so special about the Roman Gods! I also like the names some of the potential planets have(like Xena, Sedna and Quaor) so they should keep them!

 

[Rambo, John J]

No, Pluto's planethood status has practically remained secure

Not anymore chum.

 

[Danalys]

they should just forget the word planet. it was a simplification based on little understanding at the time. it was a great system before more was discovered.

just give them names say where they are what they are like and what their orbit is like and have done with it. i mean, it seems like they just want to makes sure that trivia questions about how many planets there are, can remain. or so that when they say they've discovered a new planet they don't have to say "we discovered a universal mass of aproximately *some number* radius, that's spherical and orbits around a star."

 

[maxwell's demon]

i have two planets. in my pants.