LastSunrise1981 said:
I highly doubt the book would belly up, you're just using the typical Logan fanatic mindset that the X-Men saga can't survive without Logan. I don't hate the character at all. I hate how overexposed he is and I hate the teeny bopper fangirl base that Hugh Jackman has.
They know nothing about the comics, care nothing about the comics, and constantly show how lacking they are in terms of comic book knowledge. I'm not saying they're stupid or worthless, but the fact that they try to act like they know so much more than others is pretty hysterical.
Again, I don't hate Wolverine. I hate how overexposed he is. Anything that's overexposed gets old and eventually what's cool in the beginning starts to get hated.
I stand by my opinion that the Wolverine film will flop. I just don't feel the regular audience cares about him as a character, seeing as for people to care they have to be familiar with the character. Wolverine isn't as popular as Spider-Man, Batman, or Superman for that matter, his popularity is modest at best when you think about it.
Logan Babe and Danoyse talk about how popular Logan is. Yes, he's popular, but so is Robin(Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, and Tim Drake), and so is Legolas from Lord of the Rings. But did you see Peter Jackson make Orlando Bloom the main star and his character saving Middle Earth and destroying the ring because of some overzealous fangirls? No.
That's what Fox, Ratner, Kinberg, and Penn did with X-Men: The Last Stand. They made it as if only Wolverine can save and love Jean, the fact that you accept what they did shows your lack of comic book knowledge.
I think what's most sad about Wolverine fanboys is they don't understand that if you read X-Men until say about issue 170, Wolverine was probably in the book
less than Storm and or Cyclops. Also, I should note that almost no character in X-Men holds disproportionate amount of facetime, certainly not for an extended or quantifiable amount of time.
What was Inferno about? Cyclops, Madyline and Jean. What was Fall of the Mutants about? Archangel, Apocalypse, Storm, Forge and Cyclops? What was the Phoenix Saga about? Cyclops and Jean. All the major stories in fact NEVER focused on Wolverine, hence why Wolverine landed his own book. Because, while some other characters were just as popular only Wolverine's story and origin seemed to be detached from the X-Men canon.
Wolverine was always painted as an outcast, an outsider on the team. Hence why he became such a dark horse, why fans gravitated to him in the first place is he did not fit nicely within the X-Universe.
Even in the 90s and on the X-Books have been about the X-Men, while Wolverine focuses on Wolverine. In fact Wolverine often finds himself a side character in the book. Some might recall how noticable Gambits pressence was during the 1990s.
X-Men consistently and continually is a team book, not a Wolverine book. To coin the cliche' phrase "there is no I in X-Men". Characters on the team come and go. And the popularity of X-Men came from it's writing, story, and use of various and diverse characters; not Wolverine. If you want proof of this look at the 1980s, 1990s and 2000. While X-Men in the early ninties sold well, X-Factor, X-Force/New Mutants, Uncanny X-Men, Deadpool and Cable had all become popular staples. All books without Wolverine.
Wolverine has always had his own agenda and own following, however he has never been
X-MEN. In fact FOX inability to recognize this, is in my opinion, a huge downfall for the series. While the series made money, in truth the movies failed the capture the comic and burnt audiences out on a potentially great character (Wolverine).
The Wolverine movie, in my opinion, will flop. The producers of FOX doomed that character by making him X-Men. And while the X-Men have shown in the past they can survive without Wolverine, in the movieverse Wolverine won't be able to survive without the X-Men.
t: ). If anything bums me about about the Wolverine movie, it's that it will probably postpone whatever his next Broadway show is going to be.
