Iron Man Sequels No iron man 3 for jon favreau

[kedrell]

I think they're both in the cream-o-the crop when it comes to superhero movies. And the 1st is probably my second favorite film of all time after Jaws.

 

[Donut]

As long as he returns as Happy Hogan I am good

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Iron Man 1 and 2 were fun movies that were a heavy character vehicle for RDJ. Action and fun but thats it. However, the movies themselves felt like they were pretty freestyled in terms of plot. As if things were being put together on the spot. I think he didnt characterize Nick Fury all that well in #2, actually he missed it pretty badly, but he also corrected Rhodey at the same time. He went from being this lackey chasing Stark around to this military personality with serious pull in the Army ranks.

 

[kedrell]

Why? Happy's such an inconsequential character in these movies anyway?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I gotta say, this does not come as a surprise to me at all, this has been on the cards since before IM2 was released IMO. What the hell are Marvel doing though? They are losing all their talent and dont seem to care, they just hire someone else, they really have made some major **** ups along the way so far IMO.

Losing Norton was bad enough, now this. I wasnt best pleased with IM2, but IMO the problems with that movie were down to Marvel rather than Favreau.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Wow. I am sad to hear this. Maybe the reports of him being disappointed with IM2 are true? I can't say for certain. He made a great movie and a decent sequel. I hoped he would end on a higher note than IM2, but looks like the RDJ trilogy won't have that continuity we all want. I'm willing to see what someone else is going to do, at the same time though. I hope they get a worthy successor.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This isn't surprising news at all. The surprise would have been him directing the 3rd one. The series has already gone down hill so there isn't any need for me to worry about the 3rd movie sucking.

Favs made the right choice. Why making another two hour advertisment for the Avengers?

 

[Raiden]

I gotta say, this does not come as a surprise to me at all, this has been on the cards since before IM2 was released IMO. What the hell are Marvel doing though? They are losing all their talent and dont seem to care, they just hire someone else, they really have made some major **** ups along the way so far IMO.

Losing Norton was bad enough, now this. I wasnt best pleased with IM2, but IMO the problems with that movie were down to Marvel rather than Favreau.

Yeah, I feel the same way. It just seems to me that Marvel is so unwilling to compromise, they'd rather jettison talents and get a replacement than keep the actors that have done a good job (Howard, Norton). And now they have gotten rid of a good director as well. As a Marvel fan, I don't like how Marvel is doing their business, and I think if it continues this will eventually give the company a bad reputation around Hollywood.

 

[Iron_Stark]

This isn't surprising news at all. The surprise would have been him directing the 3rd one. The series has already gone down hill so there isn't any need for me to worry about the 3rd movie sucking.

Favs made the right choice. Why making another two hour advertisment for the Avengers?

Please, the series is hardly going downhill. And how exactly was part 2 an advertisement for the Avengers? List all the Avengers references and amount of time it took up.

Wait weren't you the one that was yapping how IM2's BO was going to hurt the dvd/BR sales, yet it ended up selling about 2 million more units than the first. Goes to show how much you know.



The problem with part 2 was them shoehorning in War Machine at the expense of the villains.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm allowed to dislike Iron Man 2 and voice my opinion about Favs leaving.

And I also predicted it would make over 400mil domestically so...?

As for it's DVD sales, if I'm wrong so what? The final sales figures aren't out yet so I'm going to wait and see how wrong I am overall.

I'm sure you didn't predict Avatar to make 2.8bil worldwide.

It's funny how you are burying your head in the sand about Iron Man 2. If the movie was so loved and wildly successful to the director, why isn't he coming back? I didn't make him not come back for a 3rd movie so don't take it out on me. lol

BTW:

This thread is not about my DVD or boxoffice predictions so stay on topic. I'm not going to respond to anymore comments reagrding that because I'm going to talk about the topic at hand. Marvel screwed over Favs so he left. Ofcourse he isn't going to admit that and thats fine with me.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Its funny seeing so many people in denial.

 

[kedrell]

Which ones?

 

[SuperT]

This thread is such a headache to read.

Everyone always wants to blame someone whether it's the studio or director. lol

 

[Hush]

While I enjoyed the 2nd I honestly am not suprised. I hope we get a nice replacement Director. In all honesty though, do we need a 3rd Iron Man?

 

[A Necessary Evil]

If the movie was so loved and wildly successful to the director, why isn't he coming back? I didn't make him not come back for a 3rd movie so don't take it out on me. lol

My two cents is cause marvel was pulling a sony

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

My two cents is cause marvel was pulling a sony

Thats mine as well. Expect it's not so strange for a director to not come back for a 4th film but in this day and age, it is news that a director is not coming back for a 3rd.

Marvel better pray that this Avengers thing works because if it doesn't they messed up a perfectly good franchise for nothing. Ofcourse, just like I said about Raimi regarding Spider-Man3, I'm not going to blame every problem on the studio, Favs is partly responsible for Iron Man 2's problems.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Thats mine as well. Expect it's not so strange for a director to not come back for a 4th film but in this day and age, it is news that a director is not coming back for a 3rd.

Marvel better pray that this Avengers thing works because if it doesn't they messed up a perfectly good franchise for nothing. Ofcourse, just like I said about Raimi regarding Spider-Man3, I'm not going to blame every problem on the studio, Favs is partly responsible for Iron Man 2's problems.

I agree. I'm more inclined to blame marvel, but favs is partially to blame to. I'd say about 90% of the crap goes to marvel.

 

[IronJoe]

While I enjoyed the 2nd I honestly am not suprised. I hope we get a nice replacement Director. In all honesty though, do we need a 3rd Iron Man?

^^ Agree, not too surprised. When he didn't walk out on stage with the rest of the Avengers cast at Comic Con like I expected him to (since Cowboys & Aliens panel was right before) I figured something was up.


I think we need a 3rd Iron Man because we haven't yet seen the Mandarin. That's like having a Batman movie series without the Joker, or a Superman series without Lex Luthor, or an X-Men series without Magneto. The Mandarin is Iron Man's arch-nemesis and deserves a movie. With the rise of China going on in the real world, I'd like to see the "Temujin" persona of the Mandarin:

Anyway I think a lot will change after the Avengers. Who knows, we may see a trilogy of Avengers movies before IM3 is made.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I agree. I'm more inclined to blame marvel, but favs is partially to blame to. I'd say about 90% of the crap goes to marvel.

yep, thats a pretty good break down on where the blame lies.

 

[jab1118]

Not really getting the marvel hate. Fav wasnt fired or not asked to come back. He decided to do another movie for essentially the same company, Disney. And im not really all that upset even though I loved the first one and liked the second one the action was kind of weak. And honestly going off interviews he gave I dont think he thinks adding in fantasy elements from avengers is going to work. And with him were never gonna get Mandarin for that reason just another tech based villain. So hopefully we get a director with the balls to go for it

 

[BH/HHH]

I wonder if Robert Downey Jr himself might end up directing

 

[Son of Coul]

This thread is a complete wallbanger. There's clearly no bad blood, Favs just had more interest in another project that shoots at the same time, so he took it. But somebody's always got to be blamed.

And are we really still on this ******ed notion that IM2 was an Avengers ad again? Oh no, there was a SHIELD scene at the end and a Thor hint after the credits. That one-track minded Marvel! As soon as a filmmaker does well, everybody has to leap in to be naysayers, searching for faults. Fact of the matter is, Marvel has done pretty outstanding compared to any other studio with nothing but three films, a teaser, and a game plan.

Also I'd like to request people to cease quoting I SEE SPIDEY, it defeats the purpose of having her on my ignore list.

 

[jmc]

What I fear is that they've turned each of these films into a lead up into the next on, sort of like Iron Man II that might not be the right move IMO. It will get cluttered and lessen the impact of the character to the audience if we don't really care that they are involved then that could lead to a somewhat lousy film.

I know its to early to speculate but its warranted.

I've said the exact same thing and have been hounded for saying it, some people just don't want to hear it. I think the problem is some fans eyes glazed over at the prospects of the single universe and consequently point blank refuse to see the potential problems in what Marvel are attempting in the time frame they've set themselves. There was always going to be difficulties in attempting something this audacious, casting problems, creative differences, production time frame, scheduling, etc, did people really think things were just going to go smoothly? IM1 works great because at the time it wasn't really bound to any one direction, IM2 saw things starting to be filtered one way to accommodate what's coming up, and Favreau probably felt creatively suffocated in having to work that way, especially after Nolan was given the luxury by WB to do as he pleased for TDK, Marvel you could say did the exact opposite to him.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Maybe Favreau demanded Happy's character be expanded even further (having his own Iron Man suit this time) and Marvel denied. Disgruntled, Favreau left.

 

[Doc Samson]

Marvel better hope and pray that financially and critically, Thor and Captain America are runaway hits...because if they're not, what's the point of the Avengers then?

This whole thing is about Marvel's creative and business practices.

Exactly. In theory, it sounds cool, but to actually implement it, at the expense of using that time to fully flesh out your individual story, sometimes doesn't have positive results. For all we know, Thor & Cap could BOMB at the BO, and then what? And all you guys on here that loved IM2, so be it. Nobody needs to defend their viewpoints when it's a personal opinion, but IMO, Nick Fury & Black Widow were highly unnecessary, and yes, they were in the movie collectively a lot more than 2 minutes, like some of you are suggesting.

Furthermore, does anybody really expect Jon Favreau to come out screaming and bashing Marvel? The same studio that's owned by Disney? The same company he's going to continue to work for with Magic Kingdom? Please. Even if he wasn't doing Magic Kingdom, no professional worth his salt is going to publicly slander a previous employer, if they can help it. There's no point in it, and if anything, it would go a long way towards alienating you from opportunities in the future. Of course he's not going to acknowledge any issue he might have had publicly, but I think the proof is in the pudding. After IM1 he was excited for the sequel and wanted to be a part of The Avengers movie. After IM2, he wants nothing to do with it anymore?