No X-4

[ntcrawler]

They're in talks with writer/director David O.Russell about Frost. Good director and it gives hope for the quality they're aiming for in these spin-offs.

This should be very interesting, since they imply that Cyclops is dead. Unless it's a prequel. I wonder if they'll let Slym live. Otherwise Emma's gonna be bored and lonely. Well OK so there's Wolverine...

 

[Retroman]

Well, Fox is a corporation and they like money foremost. They always make sure theres a door for more. If they cant get the same crowd as before theyll try for those who just want action. Whether wise or not they keep their options open.

It was Ratner who chose to shoot those extra endings not Fox.

And i see x3s ending also as leniency really on folks who dont want to see them go out "like that". It really wasnt necessary imo. I think its ok to hint at the saga continuing while not actually making another.

Not as blatantly as X3s. I remember there was some crazy rumor that at the end of the movie we would have seen Jean's grave rumble or something like that. Glad that wasn't true.

 

[ntcrawler]

Not as blatantly as X3s. I remember there was some crazy rumor that at the end of the movie we would have seen Jean's grave rumble or something like that. Glad that wasn't true.

They could at least add the epitath "she will rise again" like in the comics.

It really disturbs me that you can take 40 years of stories and kill 1/2 of it within 3 movies.

 

[Retroman]

Anyone here remeber the League of Extraordinairy Gentlemen? That one had an open ending too. An ending as open and optimistic as Magneto's chesspiece of Xavier waking up in his new body. But it's fairly certain LXG won't have a sequel.

They were talking about doing LXG2 as well.At least i think Connery was.

You know i really wish there was a company that had the guts to end one of these types of sagas without a door for more. Franchises would be better off for it.

Back To The Future, Ghostbusters etc. it can be done you know.

Some studios/directors/producers just don't know when to stop though (See: Indiana Jones 4)

 

[MaleRogue]

They could at least add the epitath "she will rise again" like in the comics.

It really disturbs me that you can take 40 years of stories and kill 1/2 of it within 3 movies.

Yeah Well I loved all 3 movies....
X1 was my fave and 2 and 3 are equel.....
But I just want to have an X4....
I am curious about the 21 deleted scenes and the alternate endings...
If I could make the movie I would put everything in it.... and make the ending for Rogue.... No I did not take the cure bobby, this is me.

 

[ntcrawler]

They were talking about doing LXG2 as well.At least i think Connery was.


Back To The Future, Ghostbusters etc. it can be done you know.

Some studios/directors/producers just don't know when to stop though (See: Indiana Jones 4)

Oh come on, Fans WANT Indy 4! If it makes money and the fans get what they want, what's wrong with that?

And there are ways to end a saga without killing off 1/2 the cast. Lethal Weapon, for example. We pretty much know things are over after #4, but the characters and their lives go on.

 

[Retroman]

That would be good. As long as Morrison doesn't get to write the scripts. Then they could farm out the project to companies like NewLine Cinema who's known for giving the actual creative department the freedom they need to bring a film to life the way it's meant to be

They're already doing that with Iron Man (Paramount) and Incredible Hulk (Universal).

This should be very interesting, since they imply that Cyclops is dead. Unless it's a prequel. I wonder if they'll let Slym live. Otherwise Emma's gonna be bored and lonely.

Never thought of Cyke in the Frost movie. If they could find a way of reviving him then why not? They did it with Xavier.

Well OK so there's Wolverine...

No.

They could at least add the epitath "she will rise again" like in the comics.

It really disturbs me that you can take 40 years of stories and kill 1/2 of it within 3 movies.

She can rise whenever she feels like it.Let the lady rest.

 

[Retroman]

Oh come on, Fans WANT Indy 4! If it makes money and the fans get what they want, what's wrong with that?

And there are ways to end a saga without killing off 1/2 the cast. Lethal Weapon, for example. We pretty much know things are over after #4, but the characters and their lives go on.

I love the Indy films but i really think 3 was enough. The aw-factor of the movies had and still have is going to be pretty damn hard to recreate plus the cast is not getting any younger.

 

[ntcrawler]

I love the Indy films but i really think 3 was enough. The aw-factor of the movies had and still have is going to be pretty damn hard to recreate plus the cast is not getting any younger.

But the guy's known for having a long life. He lived to be what, 97 I think? Look at the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. You don't necessarily have to have him to impossible stunts to tell a good story.

Oh but you're right. You do need that aw-factor to make a good film.

 

[ntcrawler]

They're already doing that with Iron Man (Paramount) and Incredible Hulk (Universal).

Hmm... Why do I get the feeling that the movie gods chose X-men as the franchise that needs to be cursed?

Never thought of Cyke in the Frost movie. If they could find a way of reviving him then why not? They did it with Xavier.

We already did, it's in several forums. Being in a hospital in a coma is almost as convenient as being in a cocoon at the bottom of a lake. You can sleep until they're ready to revive you

She can rise whenever she feels like it.Let the lady rest.

It just upsets me that when alive she doesn't even have time to ENJOY it!!!

 

[XCharlieX]

They're already doing that with Iron Man

Im watching that one also. Could be the next coolest thing on the horizon.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Recast Professor X (new body, new actor), don't use Magneto, and recast Storm. Most of your big names are gone this way. Keep Hugh as Wolverine, and have him be your highest paid guy. Get new producers, and maybe take a chance on a young director. This limits your cost to just Jackman. Even if you keep Halle, you still have dropped Ian, Patrick, high priced directors, and drop Donner as a producer, and you're X4 becomes cheaper. That, FOX, is called economics.

 

[Electrix]

They dont need to make it cheaper when they are going to make $400 million+ worldwide!

 

[Deep Thinkin'!]

In my opinion they DID leave a few questions to answer in x3.
1. A few characters were left untold
2. Did Scott "really" die. It only showed him being drained. Jean could have simply done something to save him.... you never know.
3. The Professor came back. How would he be able to do that?
4. We saw Magneto's powers come back.... it would mean the cure didn't work. So what were the after effects and everything?

I know people think these are very small things, but smaller things can grow into a huge story. To me I didn't see a conclusion to X3. Just didn't fall into place. I think they will make an X4. Maybe not with FOX, but they probably will.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

But don't you think that this was also due to the writer's incompetence? OK, so Halle wanted to expand her character more and give her something more to do. So what do they do? They make her the freaking headmistress and put her in charge of everything! Isn't that just a bit too much overkill?


We saw more of that in X1 than we ever did in X3, yeah. The way she was freaking out angrily about the Cure and considering people cowards for even contemplating it was just baaaad.



I originally liked that idea, but now I'm a bit concerned. Don't you think that this is one story arc that cannot be reasonably compressed into a single feature-length film? I just don't see how in 90-120 minutes you could go from Sinister's secret plots (which would be big enough to warrant their own separate film) to rise of the Apocalypse to an all out battle between the good guys, Apocalypse and his Horsemen. Not without butchering it even more than they chopped up the Phoenix storyline in X3.

I understand what you're saying and believe me, your worries about the potential being wasted are truly justified. We as X-Men fans had a lot of hope during the X-Men: The Last Stand via trailers, pictures, set reports, and so on and so forth.

There was a lot of hype because it was the Phoenix Saga and we thought surprises were on the horizon. Due to the politics, rushed filming, bad writing, and yes men attitudes from the writers and director we're left with what we feel as a product that didn't meet our satisfaction.

Now, for the Apocalypse/Mr. Sinister storyline to be done right we need a director like Singer or even Ridley Scott who concentrates on action, character development, and emotion. Singer is the ideal choice as he understands emotion and the need to let scenes breathe without rushing to get to the next one.

That's why I say bring back Marsden, Grammer, Cudmore, Ashmore, Paquin, Foster, recast Storm by bringing in Angela Bassett, bring in Gambit, and build the franchise from there.

With Sinister/Apocalypse a lot of CGI/Make-up will be needed obviously. But the story can be done if broken down into three movies, thus allowing time, care, and focus to be used while filming it. I don't want Fox, Ratner, Kinberg, or Penn anywhere near another X-Men movie.

 

[Deep Thinkin'!]

Even though we all have been smuthered with Wolverine, they would still need to bring him back. Even if he played a smaller role. The public (and the fans on here who did like Wolverine) would be devasted if their Wolverine was left out. I say just keep with the basic cast.... don't go overboard. Just use smaller roles for past main characters. As much as several people would like to see Wolverine GONE it would be a death sentence for the movies. The public and Wolverine fans would not like it one bit.....

 

[TrailerCues]

Never thought of Cyke in the Frost movie. If they could find a way of reviving him then why not?

FOX is anti Cyclops. You should know that Retro

 

[silentforce3]

I want an X-4 because it would tie-up some loose ends from X-3. Especially giving colossus' fine a$$ some action.

 

[TrailerCues]

Especially giving colossus' fine a$$ some action.

Unless Hugh Jackman died or something that is never going to happen

 

[Fanticon]

Maybe Rothman will step down and retire sometime soon...that f****** @ hole

 

[chaseter]

I hate you Fox and I hate you Rothman.

 

[gap5ewl]

this is the thing, x3 DID NOT feel like the epic finale of a franchise. It left more questions then answers and to much cliffhangars (cure not being permanent, cyclops faith, xavier coming back). They need to make an X4 to finally put a rest to these cliffhangars and make it feel complete. I HATE FOX AND THAT MOTHA FU_CKA TOM ROTHMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn that really sucks I really hope we will see an X4 someday...

 

[spark627]

i hope the emma frost movie thing was a mistake... what the hell could it be about? 2 hours of emma turning floss into a uniform and applying blue lipstick??

her story should only be told as a part of the x-men (pref a villan)

 

[The Original Bamfer]

First off... this doesn't bug me. Magneto has the potential to be an absolutely amazing addition to the X-name. It could really add more to known characters (Such as Magneto himself, Xavier and Mystique), while introducing new ones we've wanted to see.

Wolverine? Eh. It's just Wolverine... I guess it'd be good for the action side of things. New, cool characters will be fun to see on screen. It could be a cool oppurtunity to do a quick update on the team's current situation... but, I won't expect too much.

Frost's may be good, that is, if it takes place (For the most part) after X3, and, of course, includes Cyclops. Even if he's at the end; that may make the movie worth seeing... not to mention her little Hellions.

I guess I wouldn't mind an X4... but in terms of emotional impact, where would you go? I think if paying Halle or Ian is such a big problem, they can easily be taken out of the 4th. Magneto's arc has ended... and though the cure is only temporary for him, he doesn't need to be the main villain. Mystique (And her new Brotherhood)/Sentinels could do that nicely. Storm doesn't need to lead... just come up with some plausible way (Without Sinister) for Cyclops to be back in the lead. I suppose you'd still have to have Wolverine to bring in those crazy, claw-loving folk. Let Beast come back... again. And there ya go. I don't think it's necessary, other than to bring Cyke back (Which they can do in a spin-off).

 

[TrailerCues]

(Which they can do in a spin-off).

It would have to be a cold day in hell if FOX ever brings back Cyclops in any related X-Men Movie