The Dark Knight Rises Nolan not coming back?

that scene had HORRIBLE acting by ALL 3 actors. Gary was the absolute WORST of them

infact, I would say Bale just standing there was a lot better acting than Gary and Aaron showed in that scene


my god was Gary just aweful
horrible is a bit of an overstatement, but i was definitely underwhelmed by that scene. Whereas the rest of the film was very realistic and natural in tone, this scene felt like a stage play. Loved the camera movement on it though, but maybe the flow of it simply felt forced and acted.

i agree with cunning stunts, but i mean, there's not much you can do if there weren't any better takes. Even ADR would not fix the pacing issue of it.
 
I adore Nolan as much as the next guy, but....
..how about Danny Boyle? And a script by Joss Whedon?
 
I adore Nolan as much as the next guy, but....
..how about Danny Boyle? And a script by Joss Whedon?

Good stuff. He's my pick as successor as well.

And for the record, I defended Eckhart and Oldman's acting in the rooftop scene earlier, not because I think it was anything more than just solid, but because I think people calling it "horrible" are grossly overdoing it just to get a raise out of fellow posters on a message board. The only actor in TDK that I thought was even sub-par, let alone horrible, was Maggie Gyllenhall. Granted, the writers gave her basically nothing to work with, but that's a whole other can of worms, isn't it?
 
Jeez, am I the only one who thought everybody in the Dark Knight gave a solid performance?
 
The only actor in TDK that I thought was even sub-par, let alone horrible, was Maggie Gyllenhall. Granted, the writers gave her basically nothing to work with, but that's a whole other can of worms, isn't it?

I disagree. Her looks and attitude maybe betrayed what one would expect of a conventional hollywood female romantic interest... but I saw a real understanding of the character in her. She gave a fine performance, especially in her death scene. She played it as a down-to-earth, matter-of-fact, sensible woman who happened to be in love with someone other than Bruce. And maybe that "normality" and her rejection of the protagonist didn't go well with many in the audience, but personal preferences aside, I can't see how you can say she was horrible. That's ridiculous.

And don't say it was because she was underwritten. That's simply not true. Caine and Freeman were much more underwritten than her and had almost nothing to shine. And Maggie did good with what she had, which wasn't little. I can't help feeling that this overall animosity towards her character has a lot to do with her being the only female main character. I hope I'm wrong.
 
The problem here is that I think you've missed what Nolan was trying to do with reality. He didn't want to make a comic book film, rather a Godfather story with Batman in it.


Which is exactly why he needs to go imo.
 
I got a question what possible story can The Nolan's put together than can equal or surpass The Dark Knight.It is no secret Nolan had joker in mind for the 3rd film Heath's untimely death stopped that and joker is not gonna be recast.The joker is easily not just Batman's best villain but one of the best comic book villains of all time .So it goes back to the story what story can they tell that was not told in BB and TDK and would warrant it to be TDK successor.I say this because not only was the joker character awesome but the story on anarchy and good vs evil in TDK was great as well. What can they do without the joker that can prove a powerful film of the trilogy.
 
I got a question what possible story can The Nolan's put together than can equal or surpass The Dark Knight.

The possibilities could be endless. I'm sure team Nolan could give us another solid story.

It is no secret Nolan had joker in mind for the 3rd film Heath's untimely death stopped that and joker is not gonna be recast.

That's not necessary true, it's all internet rumor. No one knows what Nolan had in mind for the third film. Nolan has been quoted saying that everything we saw the Joker do in TDK was eveything "they" wanted to him to do.
 
I disagree. Her looks and attitude maybe betrayed what one would expect of a conventional hollywood female romantic interest... but I saw a real understanding of the character in her. She gave a fine performance, especially in her death scene. She played it as a down-to-earth, matter-of-fact, sensible woman who happened to be in love with someone other than Bruce. And maybe that "normality" and her rejection of the protagonist didn't go well with many in the audience, but personal preferences aside, I can't see how you can say she was horrible. That's ridiculous.

And don't say it was because she was underwritten. That's simply not true. Caine and Freeman were much more underwritten than her and had almost nothing to shine. And Maggie did good with what she had, which wasn't little. I can't help feeling that this overall animosity towards her character has a lot to do with her being the only female main character. I hope I'm wrong.

I didn't say she was horrible. I said she was the only actor in the film that I would even consider sub-par, let alone horrible. I think she was very mediocre, average at times, below average at times. I thought the scene where she walks Harvey down the hall after he punches out his would-be assassin in the courtroom was embarassingly bad on her part. I don't care, because Nolan never gave me a reason to care about Rachel Dawes in the first place, but I saw no improvement over Katie Holmes.
 
I didn't say she was horrible. I said she was the only actor in the film that I would even consider sub-par, let alone horrible. I think she was very mediocre, average at times, below average at times. I thought the scene where she walks Harvey down the hall after he punches out his would-be assassin in the courtroom was embarassingly bad on her part. I don't care, because Nolan never gave me a reason to care about Rachel Dawes in the first place, but I saw no improvement over Katie Holmes.

Couldn't agree more, in that scene she was bad.
 
I was reading through this thread... and it actually became a little tiresome.

Your all gonna give yourselves ulcers with your pointless arguing.

Nolan is currently working on INCEPTION and is NOT THINKING about BATMAN 3...

He'll make that movie... hell at least get it in the can and then contemplate about Batman 3.

We'll know when we know!
 
The possibilities could be endless. I'm sure team Nolan could give us another solid story.



That's not necessary true, it's all internet rumor. No one knows what Nolan had in mind for the third film. Nolan has been quoted saying that everything we saw the Joker do in TDK was eveything "they" wanted to him to do.
If Ledger was still alive, The Joker would be in Batman 3 whether Nolan wanted him or not. WB knows that people fell in love with his Joker. Its all about the $$$$$$
 
As Nolan has stated before, he's a one film at a time kind of guy. No matter how much pressure WB puts on him, he probably wont commit to B3 till Inception is complete and ready to be shown to audiences, and that's at least another 8-9 months from now, so there's no use in worrying.
 
If Ledger was still alive, The Joker would be in Batman 3 whether Nolan wanted him or not. WB knows that people fell in love with his Joker. Its all about the $$$$$$

Doubtful. Warner Bros. is not going to force something on their greatest franchise director and risk him leaving the project. They screwed up by doing that once.
 
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Sounds like he'll be back, but not until he's done with his current project. As said before, he's a one-film-at-a-time guy. Warner Bros. is being rightly patient with him since they know that Batman 3 will be ridiculously huge, whenever it comes out.

Also, I never bought the idea that "it'd be too top The Dark Knight." There are 70 years of comics to look at for inspiration, so there's clearly no lack of source material to work with. If anything, I think their biggest hurtle would be having enough restraint to not let the movie get crowded.
 
I think it will be worth the wait for Nolan . I'm satisfied enough knowing the door is still open .

It's a good time to get some of these other hero franchises off the ground anyway.
 
Also, I never bought the idea that "it'd be too hard to top The Dark Knight." There are 70 years of comics to look at for inspiration, so there's clearly no lack of source material to work with. If anything, I think their biggest hurtle would be having enough restraint to not let the movie get crowded.

I really don't need it to top the dark knight . anything in the same range of quality would be good enough for me.
 

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