The Dark Knight Nolan's Gotham and atmosphere

[Sandouras]

That guys was insane. He got owned in the end!

 

[CrypticOne]

I love Nolan's Batman. I love everything he did! I believe that we will see the character come to completion in TDK. Just stating this to avoid misanderstandings.

But i have a small issue. Why is Gotham so down to earth? Why did they invent the Narrows to give this Gotham its ugly side, when the rest is shiny and properly lit up at night (look at batpod-joker confrontation)? Shouldnt it be a bit darker overall? Should it be a bit more atmospheric? Not much, just a tad...

Have your say, but please no Burton-Schumi-Nolan flame wars.

I also love this new Batman. Nolan is a genius and I'm glad we are getting these new Batman films. Hopefully we get a full and perfect superhero trilogy, finally. I think we will.

Nolan's Gotham, I think is amazing. I have no complaints about it.

 

[the_monk]

Most major cities have a pretty facade even when they have a depressed economy and lots of crime. Look at New York. Have you been through skid row in downtown LA? It's the most depressing place I've ever been!

 

[ChickenScratch]

I love Nolan's Gotham. I've had the luck of having lived in 4 countries and all over this one so his Gotham connected with me. No matter where you go in the world you'll find those cities that look clean, safe, fun, but you turn one wrong corner and suddenly you are pretty much staring into true urban decay. Shanghai, Delhi, Atlanta, Charlotte (NC) are all good examples. It works with the real world approach he's using (including the armor).

 

[antonydelfini]

I think Batman 89's set pieces were more groundbreaking than Nolan's set. But I'd take story and character development over set pieces anytime.

 

[Anita18]

I'm with the "feels more real" crowd. The coolest aspect of Batman is that he has no superpowers and is just a regular guy. To put him in a "regular" world emphasizes that point...

<melodrama>and makes us feel like we ALL have the potential to be Batmen or women</melodrama>

Concur. I went to downtown LA last night, and with the tall buildings lit up at night (one of the most beautiful sights, btw), I could almost see Batman standing within the skyline. It makes me feel like a little kid, when you believed that Santa was real and gave you presents, except now I'm older and I sometimes wish there was a Batman to kick the asses of evil people.

And yeah, there are definitely places in downtown LA I've walked through and really wished I was back home instead.

Judging just from the prologue, I think that Nolan is truly integrating the city with the movie, especially with the way the camera moved about the buildings. It really makes you feel like you're there.

 

[JJ PLAYA 24]

i love that nolan is making this movie so believeable
thats why we get a believeable city and im happy for that
cuz it obviously worked for BB
so im happy for that
if it aint broke dont fix it

 

[Nepenthes]

the posters look like a Marshall Rogers page come to life. real life streets, immersive envronments. burtons tired gothic crap couldn't be any more unwelcome here.

 

[antonydelfini]

the posters look like a Marshall Rogers page come to life. real life streets, immersive envronments. burtons tired gothic crap couldn't be any more unwelcome here.

Yeah to Marshall Rogers.

 

[Conebone69]

I made this thread yesterday but the guides deleted it for some reason. But I think it need its own thread. But anyways I sensed a complete different atmosphere in the trailer and prolouge then in BB. Its hard to explain but it just didnt feel like batman. Like when I first saw the prolouge, I wouldnt have even guessed it was batman if I didnt know about joker and his goons. I dont know if thats a good thing or not but... idk, it just dosent feel like its on the same theme as BB, if that makes any sense. I just kinda want it to feel like BB! But the prolouge was sick! I have to admit!!! My heart was pounding so fast when it started

 

[Shoemeister]

I made this thread yesterday but the guides deleted it for some reason.

I could probably write you a novel as to why. Have you and I been logging onto the same SHH as of late?

 

[Conebone69]

I could probably write you a novel as to why. Have you and I been logging onto the same SHH as of late?

Uhhh ya

 

[WompuM]

Hmm... you seem to be describing what I like to call The Matrix Revolutions instinct. Lets all pray you are wrong.

 

[Conebone69]

Hmm... you seem to be describing what I like to call The Matrix Revolutions instinct. Lets all pray you are wrong.

I hope... but did you kinda feel the same way?

 

[Hole Shot]

The only difference I see is that it's bigger, Begins was a little more claustrophobic, this is more epic.

 

[Tempest19]

easy. they went for a different color scheme. blue tints giving a colder and more industrial vibe which in turn gives it more of a modern realism, that difference u sense is the color schemes. it probably seems like a colder movie- correct? that's the colors at work. hell, there's even a pyschology we have to learn in college about how colors can effect people and create different tones. I think that might have a huge part to do with it.

 

[Transcended]

Uh, well, to me this is a good thing. I want it to feel different. It needs to. The Dark Knight hinges on an entirely different theme than Batman Begins did. The stakes have risen. The characters have changed. Gotham has changed, and IS changing.

 

[Conebone69]

easy. they went for a different color scheme. blue tints giving a colder and more industrial vibe which in turn gives it more of a modern realism, that difference u sense is the color schemes. it probably seems like a colder movie- correct? that's the colors at work. hell, there's even a pyschology we have to learn in college about how colors can effect people and create different tones. I think that might have a huge part to do with it.

Mmmm, idk if thats it

Uh, well, to me this is a good thing. I want it to feel different. It needs to. The Dark Knight hinges on an entirely different theme than Batman Begins did. The stakes have risen. The characters have changed. Gotham has changed, and IS changing.

Yeah but I wanna feel like its at least batman and not another movie

 

[Anita18]

Hmm... you seem to be describing what I like to call The Matrix Revolutions instinct. Lets all pray you are wrong.

Eh? The Matrix sequels had similar atmosphere to the first, but they failed horribly in integrating the action with the exposition. (I was literally thinking, "Oracle exit stage left. Agent Smith enter stage right." ) And a good portion of them took place in the "real world," which is a lot more boring than the Matrix, of course.

For BB and TDK, the difference in atmosphere was the very first thing that hit me when I saw the prologue. It was immediate. I think it's because the camera work in TDK allows the city and the surroundings to be more integrated into the action. Even though some of BB was filmed on location, a good portion of it was filmed in a set (a very large set, but a set nonetheless), and it sorta had that claustrophobic feel to it.

In contrast, there's all this air and room around the characters in the TDK prologue, that I immediate felt it as being stark in comparison to BB. The spaces just feel bigger to me.

I don't think it's a bad thing at all. BB is a Batman film and it looked nothing like Burton or Schumacher's films. So, I don't think we need to worry about that. It would definitely be interesting to see how they work the visuals compared to BB though.

 

[Conebone69]

Eh? The Matrix sequels had similar atmosphere to the first, but they failed horribly in integrating the action with the exposition. (I was literally thinking, "Oracle exit stage left. Agent Smith enter stage right." ) And a good portion of them took place in the "real world," which is a lot more boring than the Matrix, of course.

The difference in atmosphere was the very first thing that hit me when I saw the prologue. It was immediate. I think it's because the camera work in TDK allows the city and the surroundings to be more integrated into the action. Even though some of BB was filmed on location, a good portion of it was filmed in a set (a very large set, but a set nonetheless), and it sorta had that claustrophobic feel to it.

In contrast, there's all this air and room around the characters in the TDK prologue, that I immediate felt it as being stark in comparison to BB. The spaces just feel bigger to me.

I don't think it's a bad thing at all. It would definitely be interesting to see how they work the visuals compared to BB.

Wow, thats basically sums it up... actually yeah its not a bad thing

 

[Reek]

conebone i agree....in the BB world, his trailer seems out of place. it kinda feels like a regular action movie trying to get the bad guy...like a die hard movie with costumes.

but i am no less pumped about this movie...im sure itll be fantastic and as dark as the first

 

[TheDarkVictory]

i honestly dont think there's anything to be worried about. it'll still be a batman movie. plus, wouldn't it be boring if this were just a rehash of begins?

 

[Hole Shot]

Wow, thats basically sums it up... actually yeah its not a bad thing

Hey! I said close to the same thing, just didn't come off as edumacated as Anita.

 

[Punk&ComicBooks]

oh wow...another thread with a topic that was recreated after getting locked?...u guys are lucky I`m not a mod

 

[Reek]

wooo easy there sidekick