Norton's Enthusiasm

[Clobberin' Time]

Watching the extras, I noticed how 'hands on' Norton was with more aspects than his role required. How **** that Marvel **** on him! I doubt Marvel will ever get anybody that passionate about Hulk to fill Norton's shoes! Heres hoping that they kiss some serious ass to get him back on side.

Shame on you Marvel!

 

[dcHulk]

I agree. While Norton shouldn't be viewed as Marvel's personal lord and savior of the Hulk franchise, he provided some serious gravitas to the role which it desperately needed. One of the best actors of our time. Marvel was lucky it got him to begin with, thanks to LL.

And you know what, Marvel should bring back LL as director. He did an excellent job IMHO.

Gee whiz, Marvel had better not screw up any more. While Howard didn't exactly define the role of Rhodes, recasting him in Iron Man already introduces "stability" issues. I really hope Marvel re-thinks some things.

 

[Hectorminator]

Yeah, Norton was boss. He IS Bruce Banner.

Marvel HAS to get him for The Incredible Hulk 2, with Samuel Sterns and maybe Abomination, 'cause he was still alive, right?

But what would be awesome is if Norton did Hulk again and this time did a scene where Bruce goes all out before he turns into the Hulk, so we can see Norton get pissed! Maybe Banner's learned to control it, but maybe he controls it just enough for Banner to go nuts. Either way, we all wanna see Norton as Banner lose it!

 

[Moviefan2k4]

I'd love to see a scene (in either IH2 or Avengers) where Norton as Banner gets really mad, pins a guy against a wall, and speaks coldly...his eyes glowing green, his voice deepening rapidly as he delivers the classic line...

"You're making me angry...you wouldn't like me when I'm angry."

Then, as his opponent cowers in fear, we see him "Hulk out" right on the spot. That would be a great moment, if done right.

 

[Judson Caspian]

So what's the current condition of this franchise, will there be a TIH 2? Why are they so quiet about this. Even if there won't be a sequel, they could at least confirm that.

 

[November Rain]

For all his enthusiam, his role and the film released were distinctly average.

 

[dcHulk]

^^You should really temper your comments with "in my opinion", b/c that's all they are. I hold a different opinion as do others on this board.

 

[November Rain]

psssssssshhhhhhh.....

this year no one is going on about norton, it's all about the stars of batman and rober downey jnr, by the end of the year, you could add david craig to that list.

let's not fool ourselves into thinking his banner was top tier.



I know this is a comic book forum but there's too much denial in this place.

 

[Sarg92]

psssssssshhhhhhh.....

this year no one is going on about norton, it's all about the stars of batman and rober downey jnr, by the end of the year, you could add david craig to that list.

let's not fool ourselves into thinking his banner was top tier.



I know this is a comic book forum but there's too much denial in this place.

But all this talk about Robert Downey Jr and The Dark Knight is also opinionated. One person could have hated Downey's performance but loved Norton's. All just opinion.

Batman is talked about because of Heath Ledger's Joker, he is the reason the film is talked about, yes the Nolan did a great job and so did the other actors but Ledger was the highlight of the film but you can just say that is my opinion and you think Bale or Eckhart or Oldman were better than Ledger.

Downey's Stark has a lot of charisma and is instantly a very likeable character whereas Norton's Banner is kind of a hit and miss character with people.

Films are very opinionated so whatever you think is your opinion and I will respect it as that but we can all share each others opinions without it going into a childish argument!

 

[November Rain]

Exactly, you said it, Norton's character was hit or miss which overall comes down to average in the eyes of everyone.

There's no point going into the semantics of what an 'opinion' is. It's a message board, of course what you say is going to be based on the the opinion of yourself and others if its about quality issues like performance. It's a given.

The concensus of most people and non-board members are of downey's and ledger's performances. These aren't MY views (i'm an eckhart fan and mostly watch independant films so...). The concensus on here is norton is hit or miss and on the outside if I asked 100 people which film norton starred in this year, most wouldn't have a clue.

There's an unecessary defense of certain issues on these boards. If anything is close to someone's heart they go into denial.

So I believe my point about enthusiasm not paying off in performance according to the general concensus is legit.

bloody semantics.

 

[dcHulk]

^^I appreciate your humility and consideration.

 

[co2]

Well, (take notes on this phrase, now) I'm of the opinion that Norton did a great job and was a driving force behind this movie. I think he's a great heir to Bixby, who will always be the quintessential Banner. I hope Marvel mends some fences to lure him back into the mix for at least an Avengers film.

 

[dcHulk]

^^

Very nice, big thumbs up!

 

[The Chris]

The best banner since Bill Bixby by far in my opinion. I hope things get sorted out well, but marvel's kind of pissing me off lately with this and now terrance howard. Not interested in another actor playing Banner. They've got a great one right here.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

The best banner since Bill Bixby by far in my opinion. I hope things get sorted out well, but marvel's kind of pissing me off lately with this and now terrance howard. Not interested in another actor playing Banner. They've got a great one right here.

100% with ya on this one; Norton did a phenomenal job.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think that Norton was only okay, then again I'm not a fan so...

 

[Sarg92]

I think that Norton was only okay, then again I'm not a fan so...

Agree with you on that one.

I thought Norton was okay, nothing amazing but not poor. There were scenes in Brazil where I thought Norton was superb and some sympathy was created towards Banner.

 

[YJ1]

Norton did indeed do a phenomenal job.

Not to sound like the typical Marvel man but why do fans always assume it's the studio's fault that things break down or get strained? No one knows the real story behind the Howard move on IM2. Still, I'm quite certain that Howard's demands were just too high and too unyielding. All things being equal, you know Marvel would've wanted the whole team back in place as is. I also think that, given Norton's past reputation, that a lot of the blame involving this rift lies on his shoulders. Creative passion is admirable but so is compromise. We all may have a better idea after we see what was cut from the film.

Whatever the case, I hope they get Edward back in some way for The Avengers movie. He did a great job and is an amazing talent.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

See, I dont see how people can say Norton was phenomenal when the movie gave him barely anything to show how good his acting is. Honestly, was there ONE piece in the movie were you said to yourself, 'Wow, now that is great acting?' No because the movie barely gave him a chance to act.

Marvel needs to bust their balls to get him back, and THEN give him a role he can sink his teeth into as Banner.

 

[co2]

See, I dont see how people can say Norton was phenomenal when the movie gave him barely anything to show how good his acting is. Honestly, was there ONE piece in the movie were you said to yourself, 'Wow, now that is great acting?' No because the movie barely gave him a chance to act.

Marvel needs to bust their balls to get him back, and THEN give him a role he can sink his teeth into as Banner.

I can agree with that.

A lot of people may not like to hear it, because they get visions of Ang's film..but the only way to make Banner interesting, is to make him tortured, and for that you have to get into some phychology...some Banner vs. Hulk aspect. Otherwise we're just looking at another film of the dumb green guy smashing stuff, and that is going to get boring real fast.
Norton has the acting chops to pull off a Banner with much more depth.

 

[Sarg92]

See, I dont see how people can say Norton was phenomenal when the movie gave him barely anything to show how good his acting is. Honestly, was there ONE piece in the movie were you said to yourself, 'Wow, now that is great acting?' No because the movie barely gave him a chance to act.

Marvel needs to bust their balls to get him back, and THEN give him a role he can sink his teeth into as Banner.

I can agree with that.

A lot of people may not like to hear it, because they get visions of Ang's film..but the only way to make Banner interesting, is to make him tortured, and for that you have to get into some phychology...some Banner vs. Hulk aspect. Otherwise we're just looking at another film of the dumb green guy smashing stuff, and that is going to get boring real fast.
Norton has the acting chops to pull off a Banner with much more depth.

100% Agreed.

And Jamon, I am guessing you have the DVD with the extras and you have seen the cut scenes such as the dinner at Betty's house and Samson's and Banner's talk. They are scenes written by Norton which are really all Banner in ways. What did you think of them?

 

[dark_b]

^^You should really temper your comments with "in my opinion", b/c that's all they are. I hold a different opinion as do others on this board.

if its so obvious that this is hes opinion why do he has to writte it down?

 

[dcHulk]

if its so obvious that this is hes opinion why do he has to writte it down?

Go back and re-read the comments. I may be a bit picky with this, but I have noticed that some people tend to post comments as if their thoughts are gospel. Thinking about it, I guess it can also be attributed to the lack of visual communication during these conversations. I mean, visual cues during conversations tell tone and emotion. We don't get that luxury on these boards.

 

[dark_b]

Go back and re-read the comments. I may be a bit picky with this, but I have noticed that some people tend to post comments as if their thoughts are gospel. Thinking about it, I guess it can also be attributed to the lack of visual communication during these conversations. I mean, visual cues during conversations tell tone and emotion. We don't get that luxury on these boards.

bingo. we are talking on the internet.

 

[Swordmaster]

I'd just like to say, for the record:

I think Norton's best moments of acting in the film were scenes with Betty.

1)His reaction when Betty comes outside in the rain and whispers his name. His pain is palpable there.
2)Right before he falls out of the helicopter "

And I agree that this wasn't Norton's best performance. A good performance to be sure, but having seen Primal Fear there is more that can be done with the character (I haven't seen the deleted scenes yet).