November 4th, 2008: Campaigning, Early Voting, Election Day, and The Results!

Who will win the Big Election?

  • McCain

  • Obama


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If Palin is bumped up, we're all ****ed. The extremists that attacked on 9/11 are gonna be like, "you have a WOMAN as your leader? And she's a soccer mom? Oh, this is gonna be cake."

HOCKEY HOCKEY MOM....come on...............
 
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lincoln was a bit shadier...lol
 
If Palin is bumped up, we're all ****ed. The extremists that attacked on 9/11 are gonna be like, "you have a WOMAN as your leader? And she's a soccer mom? Oh, this is gonna be cake."

Al Qaeda did endorsed McCain, so it's not to far off! ;)
 
I agree with the first two. As for the third, you're not an isolationist then? But when does intervention become none of our damn business? For me, Iraq was irrelevant and Afghanistan wasn't. But I don't think we could ever find common ground economically. Now, for the fiscal policies of our government--I'm ready to cut spending, but the thing I detest about the Republicans is the borrowing and spending. At least Democrats take our money before they spend it.
Afghanistan is a lost cause, the approach to terror networks needs to be done in a completely different way. Iraq is irrelevant since America won't have the money to deal with it. Pure defensive militarism never works; execution is very crucial. Yes I am aware of the concept of blow back.

I refer to an synopsis of a book to better describe 4GW:

Within Dragon Days are two studies:

(1) how a rising superpower may be hiding its Maoist expansion behind Islamic insurgency; and

(2) what America's armed forces must do to curtail either.

Ostensibly, that power also provides foreign aid to the regions affected. But, the "corporations" involved are little more than extensions of its army. Thus, much of the Free World may be at risk. The U.S. military is ill-prepared for so subtle and widespread a confrontation. Instead of blatantly occupying countries or training their armies, it must start to deploy tiny teams of "foreign-aid workers in the law enforcement sector." Then, by the thousands, specially trained U.S. infantry and special-operations squads could anchor widely dispersed "Combined Action Platoons." Their mission would be to help sister squads of indigenous police and soldiers to reestablish local security. Without that local security in contested areas, there can be no viable counterinsurgency effort or operating democracy.

Part Two of the book shows what participating GIs must know about criminal investigative procedure.

Part Three contains the unconventional warfare (UW) "tactical techniques" (like football plays) they will need. The latter are new to the literature and not covered by any U.S. manual. They should allow tiny contingents of Americans to slip away unhurt whenever they get cut off or surrounded. Without this new capability, their only hope would be massive bombardment in, or forceful extraction from, a heavily populated area. Such things do little to win the hearts and minds of a population. This book provides the training and operations blueprint for winning an unconventionally fought world war. It also points to a hidden adversary.
 
McCain could still take the popular vote. Many americans don't want to go back to the Clinton era.
 
This is over. Obama has 207. There are 55 electoral votes in California. Obama wins California, no question. that puts him at 262. He needs 8. Washington will put him over the top. We have our first black president, ladies and gents.
 
mccain wins texas....another reason why i hate texas
 
There's barely any McCain supporters in the audiece :lmao:

Iowa has gone to Obama...
 
McCain could still take the popular vote. Many americans don't want to go back to the Clinton era.
The Clinton era is looking quite nice compared to the Bush era. :oldrazz:
 
This is over. Obama has 207. There are 55 electoral votes in California. Obama wins California, no question. that puts him at 262. He needs 8. Washington will put him over the top. We have our first black president, ladies and gents.

As soon as Ohio was called for him, you could tell it was over. At that point he was up to 200 I think. Knowing California will go for him, that put him at 255 with a ton of states up for grabs, many of which he's leading in. Blowout city. I think he's going to take Florida, Virginia, Indiana, Colorado, and plenty of others.
 
This is over. Obama has 207. There are 55 electoral votes in California. Obama wins California, no question. that puts him at 262. He needs 8. Washington will put him over the top. We have our first black president, ladies and gents.

You called it. I'll hold you to it.
 
This is over. Obama has 207. There are 55 electoral votes in California. Obama wins California, no question. that puts him at 262. He needs 8. Washington will put him over the top. We have our first black president, ladies and gents.
Matt has struck! :wow:
 
I had to check in from my party here for a moment and wish you all well!

I am absolutely floored by the way this is turning out. :eek: We are watching the results and while everyone here is Democratic, I think we are collectively shocked at Ohio. I mean, come on! This is virtually OVAH. They have called Michigan, Ohio AND Pennsylvania for Barack. Virginia is close! And he's already at 207 electoral votes...
 
I feel bad for CNN. They got 5 more hours of show to do.
 
Hopefully the Superbowl won't be as lopsided as this...
 
If Palin is bumped up, we're all ****ed. The extremists that attacked on 9/11 are gonna be like, "you have a WOMAN as your leader? And she's a soccer mom? Oh, this is gonna be cake."

I thought she was a hockey mom?
 
We've already witnessed so much history with this race....and now we have another first. Our first black President. I wonder what Big Mac and Mooseburger are thinking right now.
 
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