Sequels OFFICAL X4 Plot and Villian Ideas/Suggestions

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i think the public would see it as a cop out for finding a way to bring back jean and co.

but if u really think about it jean is the only one i dont see comeing back (except for maybe that clone that mr. sinister made of her). scott we never even saw die, hes just missingin action. and the professor transplanted his mind so really jean is the only improbable one.
 
I'd like to see them do a grounded "realistic" revamp of Apocalypse.

A guy whose mutant power is immortality trying to spark a war to weave out the "survival of the fittest".

Now, you're saying "wtf, thats it, a guy whose power is immortality? how is that a threat!? how's he gonna start the war!?" Well he's a THREAT if he were to find his way into a position of... major power...

what if this guy was using the fact that he was immortal, the fact that he's seen firsthand the roman empire, the rise and fall of the british empire, the birth of america, all the wars FIRST HAND... as evidence of his WISDOM and SMARTS in a BID FOR THE PRESIDENCY???? He knows how to avoid the mistakes of other empires because he saw them first hand! He knows the spirit of america because he saw its founding!! Hell the movie could actually OPEN with a campaign commercial!

At the start of the movie, all the X-men and Xavier school could actually be rooting for this guy to become president because he's a mutant... then they start to discover some plot or whatever, his plans to start a holy war of sorts involving mutants... he's secretly using government resources to "repurpose" kidnapped mutants as his own soldiers (basically the horsemen of apocalypse). One of these would be Angel becoming Archangel.
 
X-men- Gambit Banshee Sunfire Dazzler Jubilee Cannonball
Brotherhood- Scarlet Witch Quicksilver Destiny Black Tom
Cameos- Wolfsbane Husk Elixir Strong Guy Hellfire Club Blinx
Villians- Apocalypse Sinister Sentinels SugarMan Archangel Holocaust
 
Here's what I'm thinkin for X4. Wolverine meets Gambit at a bar who actually saves Wolvie from an ass whoopin from a bunch of mutant haters (maybe not a beatin, but Gambit at least saves him a few bruises). Beasts gives public speeches trying to unite the mutants and humans alike, but all it does is raise a riot. He asks Wolverine to come along to his next speech to protect him so to speak against rioters. Gambit comes along, and when the riot ensues, this time some of the Nasty Boys come or Sabertooth. The reason for Sabertooth is to foreshadow the story of X5. If it is Sabertooth, then Wolvie will have a flashback memory when he sees his old enemy. Wolvie, Remy, and Beast are gettin a beatdown, but then Cyclops busts in and starts blastin people. He reveals he was just in a coma and comes back to the mansion. Cyke believes Jean was still alive bc she spoke to him telepathically. The X-Men are all confused bc she died..... or did she? They go to her grave, and Cyke honestly believes shes still alive. So they dig her up to prove him wrong, but her body isnt in there. Scene cuts and it turns out the Nasty Boys picked her up sometime during the night. Sinister reveals he needed her to locate specific mutants he needs to create an army of super mutants. But Jean is now the Pheonix and she doesn't do telepathy anymore, or so she says. However Jean Grey does, and that's why shes been talkin to Cyke. Sinisters got a device in which he can control Pheonix, and he still needs a telepathic mutant. So he has Pheonix undo one of her actions and ressurrect Xavier. Sinister attempts to control Xavier, and Jean tells the X-Men who's messin with them. Gambit knows where Sinister's place is, bc he used to work for him. Showdown time. This is the basic story. At the end, Trask is given the okay to begin Project Wide Awake.

Colossus also goes to his native homeland in Russia because his sister is ill. I know he isn't really Russian, but he hasn't really spoken much either. Can be changed. Also this is to foreshadow X5 which could be about Omega Red and the Weapon X facility. Mid way Wolvie would regain his memories of what happened and it would rekindle his rivalry with Sabertooth who will be at the facility along with Deadpool. Other Weapon X people too, and they are reunited because Omega Red is unleashed and they need to stop him.
 
Antrax255 said:
X-men- Gambit Banshee Sunfire Dazzler Jubilee Cannonball
Brotherhood- Scarlet Witch Quicksilver Destiny Black Tom
Cameos- Wolfsbane Husk Elixir Strong Guy Hellfire Club Blinx
Villians- Apocalypse Sinister Sentinels SugarMan Archangel Holocaust

Have you ever played XMEN legends 2? Sugarman is a pain in the a$$ in that game lol.
 
metr0man said:
I'd like to see them do a grounded "realistic" revamp of Apocalypse.

A guy whose mutant power is immortality trying to spark a war to weave out the "survival of the fittest".

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yes thank you metr0man just what i wanted to see here!bring on Apocalypse it'd be an awesome film!or maybe a more Magneto centred one bringing in Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch?or more of a focus on those mutants born with their Xgene right there on show(nightcrawler) just to see how dramatic and different their upbringings would be in comparison to people like Gene's an Bobby's normal homegrown thang?an bring back toad before i cry!!
 
oh yeah an bring in Gambit because heck he is so loved and could work so well on the big screen
 
My thoughts about a storyline would be this: as there now seems to be new found peace and understanding among humans and mutants (with the new open minded president and all) just when everyone thinks things are all fine and dandy Bishop arrives form the future (ala terminator style) and warns the x-men that a certain up coming event must be foiled to stop a future catastrophe from happening that involves mutants somehow. Maybe that catastrophe could be the resurrecting of Apocalypse (the first and most powerful mutant of all time in case u didn’t know) or something like that. Also they could possibly throw in the muir island story since the proffesor seems to be there now.

The x-men would now consist of Bishop, Storm, Iceman, Collosus, Kitty, Rogue(with her powers back but able to control them), Jubilee, Gambit, Angel, and perhaps Emma Frost in a cameo role. Wolvie would be off on his own as he often does. And if thats too many to have than maybe they could have Iceman and Rogue moved off on there own and married or something. Also the Professor would be back alive obviosly. I would love to see Psylocke join the x-men but unfortunatly they killed her off in the last stand.
 
I also wanted to add that any ideas about the sentinels being in X4 doesnt make sense cuz apparently they already faced sentinals before wat happens in X3 according the the X3 video game. Thats why (in my mind at least) they already know wat a sentinal is and looks like so thats why they recreate one in the danger room in the movie. Plus the idea of an army of robots created to defend against mutants is a bit out there even for a movie. I dont think it would work.
 
Lil_Flip246 said:
As long as Jubilee is the new X-member.

Yeah but get a better looking one. The one in the movie is ugly IMO.
 
STEELERFAN said:
My thoughts about a storyline would be this: as there now seems to be new found peace and understanding among humans and mutants (with the new open minded president and all) just when everyone thinks things are all fine and dandy Bishop arrives form the future (ala terminator style) and warns the x-men that a certain up coming event must be foiled to stop a future catastrophe from happening that involves mutants somehow.


That's the best idea I've heard for introducing Bishop and not bastardizing his future origin. :up:
 
STEELERFAN said:
My thoughts about a storyline would be this: as there now seems to be new found peace and understanding among humans and mutants (with the new open minded president and all) just when everyone thinks things are all fine and dandy Bishop arrives form the future (ala terminator style) and warns the x-men that a certain up coming event must be foiled to stop a future catastrophe from happening that involves mutants somehow. Maybe that catastrophe could be the resurrecting of Apocalypse (the first and most powerful mutant of all time in case u didn’t know) or something like that. Also they could possibly throw in the muir island story since the proffesor seems to be there now.

The x-men would now consist of Bishop, Storm, Iceman, Collosus, Kitty, Rogue(with her powers back but able to control them), Jubilee, Gambit, Angel, and perhaps Emma Frost in a cameo role. Wolvie would be off on his own as he often does. And if thats too many to have than maybe they could have Iceman and Rogue moved off on there own and married or something. Also the Professor would be back alive obviosly. I would love to see Psylocke join the x-men but unfortunatly they killed her off in the last stand.

lol no please, not time travel cliche junk. lets keep some relaism to these movies, and not add time travel etc.
 
Whats wrong with a lil time traveling just done by Bishop as a one time thing. It would be like a one time ordeal he has to go through and has no way back. It was accepted and not questioned at all in the terminator movies. And how you gonna say x-men and realism in the same sentence? Its accepted that a guy can shoot ice outta his hands or another guy can turn his skin into an organic metal but that time travel to the past is no way possible 100 years in the future?
 
I think the idea could work if it is an integral part of the storyline and isn't just treated as, "Hi...I'm Bishop. I came from the future."
 
STEELERFAN said:
My thoughts about a storyline would be this: as there now seems to be new found peace and understanding among humans and mutants (with the new open minded president and all) just when everyone thinks things are all fine and dandy Bishop arrives form the future (ala terminator style) and warns the x-men that a certain up coming event must be foiled to stop a future catastrophe from happening that involves mutants somehow. Maybe that catastrophe could be the resurrecting of Apocalypse (the first and most powerful mutant of all time in case u didn’t know) or something like that. Also they could possibly throw in the muir island story since the proffesor seems to be there now.

The x-men would now consist of Bishop, Storm, Iceman, Collosus, Kitty, Rogue(with her powers back but able to control them), Jubilee, Gambit, Angel, and perhaps Emma Frost in a cameo role. Wolvie would be off on his own as he often does. And if thats too many to have than maybe they could have Iceman and Rogue moved off on there own and married or something. Also the Professor would be back alive obviosly. I would love to see Psylocke join the x-men but unfortunatly they killed her off in the last stand.


this is a good story plot for number 5 after the x-men defeat sinster and sinster finds apocalplse
 
It needs to be intricate, whatever it is. Mysteries and questions should remain until the final act of the final movie. From what we saw in X2, there are enough mutants on the planet, and even moreso mutants who haven't learned control, that inevitable problems and containment will have to happen. How many "schools for the gifted" are there? Humans react big, and I think Sentinels would be a great way to start it. In the end, X-Factor could be formed as an alliance between humans and mutants for control of those who abuse their power.

Even though Hank has been named Ambassador to the UN, we are still in the early stages of mutant acceptance. Putting the UN in there, however, allows the plot to also include a possible Genosha storyline, or at the very least allow the plot to leave the US and go to England (Hellfire Club), Egypt (Apocalypse), Savage Land, etc.

The possibilities are limitless, however, the right course should be regulation, containment, agreement. It has to get out of control, before it becomes controlled.
 
Ya well I didnt mean that Apocalypse would be the main villian of the story necessarily just the x-men would be trying to stop a series of events that will lead to the resurection of Apocalypse. So that would leave it wide open for MR. Sinister or whoever else to be the main villian of the movie. We would only see Apocalypse as a shadowy figure whenever Bishop talks/thinks about the future he comes from. But there is no way that the resurection of Apocalypse can be allowed to happen by the x-men thus he will grow to wage the ultimate war between humans and mutants and rule over part of the world.
 
STEELERFAN said:
My thoughts about a storyline would be this: as there now seems to be new found peace and understanding among humans and mutants (with the new open minded president and all) just when everyone thinks things are all fine and dandy Bishop arrives form the future (ala terminator style) and warns the x-men that a certain up coming event must be foiled to stop a future catastrophe from happening that involves mutants somehow. Maybe that catastrophe could be the resurrecting of Apocalypse (the first and most powerful mutant of all time in case u didn’t know) or something like that. Also they could possibly throw in the muir island story since the proffesor seems to be there now.

The x-men would now consist of Bishop, Storm, Iceman, Collosus, Kitty, Rogue(with her powers back but able to control them), Jubilee, Gambit, Angel, and perhaps Emma Frost in a cameo role. Wolvie would be off on his own as he often does. And if thats too many to have than maybe they could have Iceman and Rogue moved off on there own and married or something. Also the Professor would be back alive obviosly. I would love to see Psylocke join the x-men but unfortunatly they killed her off in the last stand.

Sounds good but theres one problem. Wolvie is not in the story. I dont think the movie would be as popular if wolvie is not in it.
 
The next move

X-Men: /X4
Narration by Ororo Munroe- The Dream: hope, faith, optimism, anticipation… It is that thing burning in each of us, deep down in every soul; that thing we hold dear to our hearts giving us a reason to live on. It has sanctioned us to endure and thrive with every breath in our body. But if this dream is not fulfilled, we will not evolve. So we must fulfill, we must believe, and we must achieve… The Dream.
Synopsis
A new threat has dawned upon mutant kind. Due to Magneto's war, security is now the highest priority. Senator Kelly (Or an equally powerful politician) has mysteriously returned along with the mutant registration acts. The sentinels have become the main source of human protection fearing that Magneto or some new mutant threat could be plotting against man-kind. Mutants everywhere flood the sewers as a haven under the lead of Masque. Amongst his most trusted are Caliban, Gambit and a few others, who he sends out to track and recruit mutants into the Morlocks; but something has changed. The sentinels are now uncontrollable and mysteriously armed with the mutant registration acts. With their creator Dr. Bolivar Trask dead the X-Men lead by Storm must battle these mutant hunting robots.

X-Men: Legacy/X5
Narration by Professor X.- Evolution: a change or as scientists have theorized, a shift living organisms undergo over many generations to suite their environment. One might ask why mutants have evolved above their counter parts man; or even contemplate what we are evolving to? Either way the true answer only lies within our Legacy; our as we have come to know it, our evolution.
Synopsis
All over the news controversy raises as the emergence of a mutant epidemic spreads. A leading geneticist Dr. Nathaniel Essex has deemed the outbreak “The Legacy virus” one in which only mutants can inherit; but when it is revealed that this isn’t a new mutant epidemic, but “the cure” itself progressing to a deadlier state. The X-Men must make their move; to protect their Legacy; which will only end in losses.

X-Men: Dawn of Apocalypse/X6
Narration by Professor X.- As old as time itself, those who are different have always been met fear, resentment and often hate. Humanity has never embraced what they yet to understand, more than often resulting in conflict. If you look at history itself you’d find that for as long as there are those who fear there has, and always will be, war.
Synopsis
Over 1,000 years ago a mutant En Sabah Nur or as they called him Apocalypse reigned all of Egypt with an iron fist. His tyranny would only expand casting the world into eternal war. But somehow he had been stopped. Evidence as to how or who sealed Apocalypse away has never been found, just that he was. But such a time is upon humanity now as history begins to repeat itself. The final battle dawns upon the X-Men as they face of against the ultimate mutant, in the ultimate battle to ensure a world that hates and fears them.
 
javphonic said:
The next move

X-Men: /X4
Narration by Ororo Munroe- The Dream: hope, faith, optimism, anticipation… It is that thing burning in each of us, deep down in every soul; that thing we hold dear to our hearts giving us a reason to live on. It has sanctioned us to endure and thrive with every breath in our body. But if this dream is not fulfilled, we will not evolve. So we must fulfill, we must believe, and we must achieve… The Dream.
Synopsis
A new threat has dawned upon mutant kind. Due to Magneto's war, security is now the highest priority. Senator Kelly (Or an equally powerful politician) has mysteriously returned along with the mutant registration acts. The sentinels have become the main source of human protection fearing that Magneto or some new mutant threat could be plotting against man-kind. Mutants everywhere flood the sewers as a haven under the lead of Masque. Amongst his most trusted are Caliban, Gambit and a few others, who he sends out to track and recruit mutants into the Morlocks; but something has changed. The sentinels are now uncontrollable and mysteriously armed with the mutant registration acts. With their creator Dr. Bolivar Trask dead the X-Men lead by Storm must battle these mutant hunting robots.

X-Men: Legacy/X5
Narration by Professor X.- Evolution: a change or as scientists have theorized, a shift living organisms undergo over many generations to suite their environment. One might ask why mutants have evolved above their counter parts man; or even contemplate what we are evolving to? Either way the true answer only lies within our Legacy; our as we have come to know it, our evolution.
Synopsis
All over the news controversy raises as the emergence of a mutant epidemic spreads. A leading geneticist Dr. Nathaniel Essex has deemed the outbreak “The Legacy virus” one in which only mutants can inherit; but when it is revealed that this isn’t a new mutant epidemic, but “the cure” itself progressing to a deadlier state. The X-Men must make their move; to protect their Legacy; which will only end in losses.

X-Men: Dawn of Apocalypse/X6
Narration by Professor X.- As old as time itself, those who are different have always been met fear, resentment and often hate. Humanity has never embraced what they yet to understand, more than often resulting in conflict. If you look at history itself you’d find that for as long as there are those who fear there has, and always will be, war.
Synopsis
Over 1,000 years ago a mutant En Sabah Nur or as they called him Apocalypse reigned all of Egypt with an iron fist. His tyranny would only expand casting the world into eternal war. But somehow he had been stopped. Evidence as to how or who sealed Apocalypse away has never been found, just that he was. But such a time is upon humanity now as history begins to repeat itself. The final battle dawns upon the X-Men as they face of against the ultimate mutant, in the ultimate battle to ensure a world that hates and fears them.

Sounds good. I just have one thing to say. I dont think the government would create sentinels just to stop magneto. Someone else and other mutants yeah that cool but for magneto, I doubt it. I think X3 showed that they are well aware of Magneto's capability. That is why they used the plastic guns and they didnt want to call in the tanks.
 
Mr Sinister & Apocalypse

Introduce the Age of Apocalypse at the end of movie

main villains Stryker and Trask to start the Master Mold program and focus on the Sentinels concept
 
iceberg325 said:
Sounds good but theres one problem. Wolvie is not in the story. I dont think the movie would be as popular if wolvie is not in it.

So put in Gambit, people will forget about Wolvie real quick, and he's got his own journey anyway.
 
Boiiinng said:
So put in Gambit, people will forget about Wolvie real quick, and he's got his own journey anyway.

I dont think Gambit is a good enough replacement for wolvie. I highly doubt people would forget about wolvie.
 
I think that for the most part that Gambit could replace Logan as the rebelious bad ass of the group. Plus and most importantly I totally doubt Jackman would come back to play Wolvie for a 5TH time and I wouldnt want to see another actor replacing him.

And i wanted to repost a previous quote i had since im hearing more things about sentinals -

Any ideas about the sentinels being in X4 doesnt make sense cuz apparently they already faced sentinals before wat happens in X3 according the the X3 video game. Thats why (in my mind at least) they already know wat a sentinal is and looks like so thats why they recreate one in the danger room in the movie. Plus the idea of an army of robots created to defend against mutants is a bit out there even for a movie. I dont think it would work.
 

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